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    i found a good deal on a zo6 cam. would it be worth it? i looked through some of the old threads, but didn't get much understanding. i'm a cam what would be required to go along with the cam? just springs? i hear some guys still run a stock tune, or use handhelds to change fuel curves or something

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    Personally, I feel the LS6 cam is pointless for the 15-18 RWHP it gives you. So many better options out there, and why do it twice once you want more??
    Get a smaller cam (TR224) and get enough to get close to OR even get to 400 RWHP. Just a driveable as well.

    ANY cam will require valvesprings. Also a good idea to upgrade the oil pump and timing chain on some cars. Anymore, I recommend this on any F-Body as a safety type mod. You are there, they aren't that expensive, and it is piece of mind in the future.

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    I have a 98 also and I am doing the cam this upcoming weekend. I am doing a TSP ported LS6 oil pump, LS2 timing set, and crane dual valve springs at the same time. I have heard that the early oil pumps can go bad without notice, so I am not going to take the chance. Besides, spending 200 bucks to potentially save thousands sounds like a good investment to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    ANY cam will require valvesprings. Also a good idea to upgrade the oil pump and timing chain on some cars. Anymore, I recommend this on any F-Body as a safety type mod. You are there, they aren't that expensive, and it is piece of mind in the future.
    When you sat timing chain do you mean just replace it or is there an upgrade that you can get? Also what is the average total price of everything with a 224/224 cam and what ratio rocker arms do most people use?

    Sorry for hijacking your thread I just thought this would be a good place to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMoss View Post
    When you sat timing chain do you mean just replace it or is there an upgrade that you can get? Also what is the average total price of everything with a 224/224 cam and what ratio rocker arms do most people use?
    LS2 chain seems to be the ticket for those not buying an adjustable set.
    I run the stock 1.7 rockers.

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    but lets say you can pick up a zo6 cam for $75. would that still be worth it?

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    After install and the valvesprings...I don't think so.
    The price on that cam is a little lower than average, but isn't anything great. At least for that particular cam.

    The install part is the hard part. If the install was cake/cheap, then hell yeah that would be a great price for 15-20RWHP.
    Make it worth your time if you are going to pay for it/do it yourself.
    Just my opinion. The LS6 cam works great for some that are looking for a little more power but not have the lope or driveability issues that some larger cams can have.

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    so what would you recommend for a DD? looking at basic boltons in the near future. LT,ORY, cat back. not looking for 8000rwhp. and not doing heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt0704 View Post
    so what would you recommend for a DD? looking at basic boltons in the near future. LT,ORY, cat back. not looking for 8000rwhp. and not doing heads.


    224/224 or the 228/228.
    both are great street/mid range cams.
    you need not spin up the motor to get great power from above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    224/224 or the 228/228.
    both are great street/mid range cams.
    you need not spin up the motor to get great power from above.
    I agree.

    TR224 from Thunder or 228R from TSP.

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    with a 224/224 or 228/228 how high of a stall would you need, would i even need to get a higher stall with the power range starting at 1600 rpm(according to thunder racing TH224)

    Also what about valve springs

    thanks

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    Valvesprings are plentiful. Shops will recommend all kinds of different ones.
    Manley makes a good valvespring.

    I would stall any car. Even a stock cammed car will gain from a larger stall. 3200 isn't all that big and it would still work nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMoss View Post
    with a 224/224 or 228/228 how high of a stall would you need, would i even need to get a higher stall with the power range starting at 1600 rpm(according to thunder racing TH224)

    Also what about valve springs

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    for above cams, any stall between 3000-3500 rpm would be perfect.
    i have behive (dual) valve springs that are rated at .650 lift

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    i was running the ms3

    now im gonna be running a 257/266 .643/.622 110
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    Quote Originally Posted by slow_ws6 View Post
    now im gonna be running a 257/266 .643/.622 110
    Drag car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Drag car?
    nope its a street car full weight and still gonna have ac and all that. i will drag race it but thats not what its made for.

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    In my opinion, that is WAY too much cam then.

    Let me know how it goes though. Would love to see the results.

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    its not to bad its going into a 408. there is no way i would put it into a stock displacement motor.

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