Best Slotted and Drilled Rotors

[{FzS}BlacKMagicK]

Damn!!! I just checked the price of a big brake kit form Brembo...are they kidding??? Car should flip over onto it's roof when ya hit the brakes for that money.

[2manycis]

That's about what you're going to pay for that kinda brake kit. You wanna stop on a dime from 120... there you go

[predator]

The more area you can apply the force and friction on the better the braking you're going to have... it's more common sense than physics

if that were true there would be 2 calipers per rotor on race cars...

-me

[{FzS}BlacKMagicK]

That's about what you're going to pay for that kinda brake kit. You wanna stop on a dime from 120... there you go

Jus' lemme get over the initial sticker shock...lol

Doesn't Baer make a 6 piston caliper brake kit for less? Which would lead to a whole nuther question...what's better 4 piston or 6 piston, is more really better? Size of the caliper equal, I would think the pistons are just smaller, more parts...more that could go wrong. Is Baer's setup considered a "big brake" setup?

[LS2Tuner]

Actually, I just like the way they look...lol

But, from what I've seen they tend to crack, don't need that, so I started thinkin maybe there's some better than others.

Also, heard that the full contact (smooth) rotors tend to glaze (due to heat I suppose) and consequently fade as well as having no ability to get rid of gasses from the pads.

I don't do auto cross, just want the best stopping ability with good looks, without having to worry much about crackin and warpage.

Steet racin is what I'm into so I do need to get 'er down from 160 to 60 real quick

We have GREAT luck with Bears rotors....... Get the zinced washed ones and they'll never rust. They also come slotted and cross drilled for maximum heat and gas disapation. You can get the one piece design for Much cheaper than the 2 piece one that have a removable "hat".
Then I would install some HAWK pads at the same time. Just make sure you break in or "season" the rotors as directed in the instructions.
Just upgrade to the bigger dia. rotors with the stock calipers unless your on a unlimited budget.

[{FzS}BlacKMagicK]

We have GREAT luck with Bears rotors....... Get the zinced washed ones and they'll never rust. They also come slotted and cross drilled for maximum heat and gas disapation. You can get the one piece design for Much cheaper than the 2 piece one that have a removable "hat".
Then I would install some HAWK pads at the same time. Just make sure you break in or "season" the rotors as directed in the instructions.
Just upgrade to the bigger dia. rotors with the stock calipers unless your on a unlimited budget.

Do bigger diameter rotors require an 18" wheel? I seen somewhere on their site an 18" wheel is required for sumthin, might of been the whole kit.

[mrr23]

i went from stock rotors to the slotted and drilled stock rotors from wholsale direct. nothing else, same brake pads and both cars stop quicker now. slots and holes allow the gases and pad material to escape from between the rotor and pad. my experience. take it for what it's worth.

[LS2Tuner]

Do bigger diameter rotors require an 18" wheel? I seen somewhere on their site an 18" wheel is required for sumthin, might of been the whole kit.

Nope!!! Got 13" rotors on MANY cars front and back with 17" NO issues.
Good Luck.
Try to make a friend at AutoZone and have him order with his employee discount.

[{FzS}BlacKMagicK]

i went from stock rotors to the slotted and drilled stock rotors from wholsale direct. nothing else, same brake pads and both cars stop quicker now. slots and holes allow the gases and pad material to escape from between the rotor and pad. my experience. take it for what it's worth.

No problems with cracking and warping? Have you ever had to slam on 'em?
Are you using ceramic pads? Not sure what the ones that came stock are made out of.

What is shooting out of the ur hood in ur avatar? Is that from nitrous?
I want smoke to blow out of the nostrils (as I like to call 'em on my WS6) think that would look pretty sick, like a dragon snortin.

Nope!!! Got 13" rotors on MANY cars front and back with 17" NO issues.
Good Luck.
Try to make a friend at AutoZone and have him order with his employee discount.

Better yet, just ask my brother who is the commercial accounts manager at an autozone...heheheheee

[Fastcar]

I'm glad to see that Predator has finally developed the ultimate braking system! Why, if swept area has no bearing on braking force, then you could have a brake pad no larger than a postage stamp! Think of the savings in material and manufacturing costs! Manufacturers wouldn't have to offer big brake kits any more!! BlackMagicK, if you go to a big brake kit typically you get a larger rotor and the caliper has to be remounted slightly outward from the original mounting point to accomodate the larger rotor diameter. Most kits offer a larger caliper too that takes a larger pad to fully utilize the increased swept area of the bigger rotor (some offer 4 piston calipers - big $$$). To clear the larger rotor and calipers you may need a bigger wheel - the manufacturer of the kit should have experience with wheel clearance issues. You don't need a 6 piston caliper for street use, it's a waste of money.

[predator]

I'm glad to see that Predator has finally developed the ultimate braking system! Why, if swept area has no bearing on braking force, then you could have a brake pad no larger than a postage stamp! Think of the savings in material and manufacturing costs! Manufacturers wouldn't have to offer big brake kits any more!! BlackMagicK, if you go to a big brake kit typically you get a larger rotor and the caliper has to be remounted slightly outward from the original mounting point to accomodate the larger rotor diameter. Most kits offer a larger caliper too that takes a larger pad to fully utilize the increased swept area of the bigger rotor (some offer 4 piston calipers - big $$$). To clear the larger rotor and calipers you may need a bigger wheel - the manufacturer of the kit should have experience with wheel clearance issues. You don't need a 6 piston caliper for street use, it's a waste of money.

im glad to see you ppl have finally disproven a law of physics... dont get me wrong... there are reasons for larger surface area... such as the fact that pads are brittle and if you applied all the compression force through such a small area you would prolly crush the pad... also wear would be a huge issue using such a small foot print...

big brake kits move the application of force out... increasing the moment that the friction can apply... as i pointed out earlier...

and seriously if the foot print is such a good thing y are there not dual calipers per rotors...

oh and im glad to see youve already heard about my prototype for the world greates braking system... ill see if i can link a pic for you...

yep here you go...





there you go... only problem is removing the wheel is a real bitch and the further you move the weight away from the center of rotation the more hp your drain parasitically... but it woudl stop like a bastard...

i mean look at buell sport bikes... tiny calipers located as far out as possible... wonder y they would do that... just be idiots...

-me

[mrr23]

No problems with cracking and warping? Have you ever had to slam on 'em?
Are you using ceramic pads? Not sure what the ones that came stock are made out of.

i cracked a rear pair once from being in a bunout contest. i full minute doing a burnout overheated the rotors. got them replaced and haven't cracked since. i've had them on both cars for over a year now.

yes, i've had to slam on the brakes.

using standard semi-metallic pads.

What is shooting out of the ur hood in ur avatar? Is that from nitrous?
I want smoke to blow out of the nostrils (as I like to call 'em on my WS6) think that would look pretty sick, like a dragon snortin.

yes, that is nitrous coming out of my purge. here's how i had it ran out the front

[{FzS}BlacKMagicK]

i cracked a rear pair once from being in a bunout contest. i full minute doing a burnout overheated the rotors. got them replaced and haven't cracked since. i've had them on both cars for over a year now.

yes, i've had to slam on the brakes.

using standard semi-metallic pads.

Guess you need a line lock. Any reason your not using ceramic pads?






yes, that is nitrous coming out of my purge. here's how i had it ran out the front



That is hot stuff, I really like that.

[Marc 85Z28]

and seriously if the foot print is such a good thing y are there not dual calipers per rotors...

There are! Many drag racers with strong motors utilize dual rear calipers to hold all that torque on the line (cars w/out transbrakes). Granted its not an ideal setup for pure braking performance from speed, but you were talking clamping force/friction...

[z28punk]

u could just find a wrecked corvette and grab the rotors off of it.

just looking at it in a cheap way.

[camarokiddave]

[QUOTE={FzS}BlacKMagicK;601962]Guess you need a line lock.

I think he warped his rear rotors from the heat of the burnin' rubber. I'd guess he already has linelock.

[Corey1987]

[QUOTE=camarokiddave;602298]

Guess you need a line lock.

I think he warped his rear rotors from the heat of the burnin' rubber. I'd guess he already has linelock.

haha, no its from holding the brakes to keep the car from rolling, since the rear brakes are still putting force on the rotors, they are making heat, which will eventually mess up the rotors

[camarokiddave]

[QUOTE=Corey1987;602587]

haha, no its from holding the brakes to keep the car from rolling, since the rear brakes are still putting force on the rotors, they are making heat, which will eventually mess up the rotors

Yeah-your'e right-what was I thinking? Gotta lay off the afternoon wine on my day off.

[Corey1987]

hehe no problem man.

[mrr23]

Any reason your not using ceramic pads?

didn't need replacing when i got the rotors. when it comes time, i will.