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    Rockin the Ruckus! 02Sweet's Avatar
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    2002 z28 camaro

    I have done some engine bay clean up.
    I removed the entire ac/heater system
    Coil pack relocation
    Installed stand up griffin rad
    removed abs
    moved location of fuse boxes
    Shaved the stock valve covers smooth
    wire hide mod
    And I am sure there is more.
    I am not done but this gives you an idea of how far you can go:









    Last edited by 02Sweet; 06-04-2012 at 07:10 AM.

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    I have 2 cars here with manual steering, not that big of a deal.

    I've actually seen alot of 4th gens with manual racks installed, always in an attempt to remove weight as they were street brawlers and weekend track cars.

    If you are going for serious weight reduction, an aftermarket K member and control arms will take about 60 lbs. off the front, and that's a good time to do the manual rack too and remove more weight.

    The way I see it, by the time you remove all the weight of the AC, power steering, K-member, AIR, headers (lighter than manifolds), cats (off road Y is lighter), ABS brakes, fiberglass hood, and many more things,,,,the front end becomes so light that manual steering really shouldn't be an issue. Put some air in the front tires and it makes things a bit easier too.

    My opinion, the power steering on these cars isn't all that easy anyway,,,since GM seems to want to incorporate "road feel" into the systems, you can't really use one hand in a parking lot and "palm" the wheel around when parking. It's rather stiff anyway if you ask me.
    The way a manual rack is geared,,,,it's easier to steer than if you simply removed the power steering belt on a power steering system,,,that tends to be difficult because the PS rack isn't designed to work that way.
    That was a trick used years ago on 4th gens (shorter belt to bypass PS) but it's hard to drive. A manual rack is much easier.
    Last edited by Firebirdjones; 06-04-2012 at 08:54 AM.

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    +1 on the manual steering rack. Hoping to get one i my bird soon.

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