Eagle talon killing everybody at the track

**JwMonE99** · 08-16-2007, 08:34 PM

Personally if I was to go import, I think I would go with a Nissan

**RJWZ28** · 08-17-2007, 05:55 AM

SUBARU (if I had to)

Reason: Subaru is owned by Fuji Heavy Industries, which until last year was owned 42% or so by General Motors. I'm a huge GM loyalist. Oh, and I think the 2005 WRX STi (not to be confused with the newer STI which came with the newer , uglier face) would be an awesome winter commuter car.

**EE1983** · 08-17-2007, 05:59 AM

Man this thread has gone WAY off track

**RJWZ28** · 08-17-2007, 06:00 AM

**RJWZ28** · 08-17-2007, 06:01 AM

My fiancee says she likes VWs, preferably the New Beetle (with a ragtop for sure!!!)

**EE1983** · 08-17-2007, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by RJWZ28

My fiancee says she likes VWs, preferably the New Beetle (with a ragtop for sure!!!)

Yeah a lot of people LOVE Volkswagens. I do not know why. They are probably the most unreliable new cars EVER. They are a nightmare to work on as well and the parts for them are ridiculously expensive. Horrible quality. My sister had a Beetle (shes 20) and one of my other sisters (31) has a GTI. All they do is break and they are relatively brand new..?

**nevrlift** · 08-17-2007, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

My friend has a B18 in a "bubble", its slow as shit. He has full bolt ons, cams, 5 speed, rear seats delete. I don't see the point of swapping a motor if you're still going to be running 15's

LMAOOOO......yea i dont get it myself

**EE1983** · 08-17-2007, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

My friend has a B18 in a "bubble", its slow as shit. He has full bolt ons, cams, 5 speed, rear seats delete. I don't see the point of swapping a motor if you're still going to be running 15's

Because without the motor swap it ran high 18s.

**stevegrizzle** · 08-17-2007, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by jperkins812

V8's be built cheaper than a 4 cylinder pretty much anytime you look at it, but the technology used to attain the same horsepower is is far superior in 4 cylinders. I only say this because how else would you explain the fact of making a 4cyl. run as fast as it does. You can make a reliable DSM, but most people either do not have the money or just cut corners and fix it when it breaks. A good example of one is Evil Eagle, his last engine had 850 passes on it with 78K before he took it out to build another motor. This car runs 9.50's @153 in the quarter, and this car is daily driven. Any car is only as good as you build it and that is a fact. You can call me a ricer if you please, because it does not bother me. I respect any car that is built and can put down numbers to prove it. Personally if you want to fast for the cheapest amount of money spent, then go out and buy a motorcycle.

Holy shit, someone finally said something intelligent! :

**JwMonE99** · 08-17-2007, 10:46 AM

Speaking of VW

**Wesman** · 08-17-2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by EE1983

Yeah a lot of people LOVE Volkswagens. I do not know why. They are probably the most unreliable new cars EVER. They are a nightmare to work on as well and the parts for them are ridiculously expensive. Horrible quality. My sister had a Beetle (shes 20) and one of my other sisters (31) has a GTI. All they do is break and they are relatively brand new..?

I would much rather have a VW than any Jap car, the new GTI MKV would be a great daily driver. Haven't heard any real reliability issues with them as of yet, and its actually good looking, unlike just about anything Japanese.

**nevrlift** · 08-17-2007, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Wesman

I would much rather have a VW than any Jap car, the new GTI MKV would be a great daily driver. Haven't heard any real reliability issues with them as of yet, and its actually good looking, unlike just about anything Japanese.

i agree...i love VW/Audi...looks and the perfomance...AWD turbos etc...

**Wesman** · 08-17-2007, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by nevrlift

i agree...i love VW/Audi...looks and the perfomance...AWD turbos etc...

The Germans make some damn nice cars. They have their issues of course, but overall they are some world class vehicles. They know the right formulas for performance, twin turbo 6 cylinders, V8's, even their turbo 4 cylinders are designed so that the turbo spools at 1800RPM for increased low end, unlike 3,000 or 4,000RPM like Japanese 4 bangers. Most of their cars are RWD or AWD, too. Downsides are parts are espensive, they can be a real bitch to work on, and they have some reliability issues. Thats common for most imports though.

**EE1983** · 08-18-2007, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

I would much rather have a VW than any Jap car, the new GTI MKV would be a great daily driver. Haven't heard any real reliability issues with them as of yet, and its actually good looking, unlike just about anything Japanese.

I have 2 VW's in the family, Im actually talking from experience with reliability. A good amount of my friends have VW's too. There is a huge following of them down in this area. Also, my other sister has a 2006 Audi A4 which is very nice and high quality. They seem to not have the reliability issues of the VWs. Looks are subjective, I wasnt talking about the way VW looked. Although, not a big fan of my sisters Beetle

**RJWZ28** · 08-18-2007, 06:54 AM

I told her I'll buy her a Beetle 'vert, and we'll even get a pink one or paint it that way. One stipulation: I get a winter alone with the car... in the garage.

**EE1983** · 08-18-2007, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

even their turbo 4 cylinders are designed so that the turbo spools at 1800RPM for increased low end, unlike 3,000 or 4,000RPM like Japanese 4 bangers. .

Yes, they provide low end power because their turbos are the size of a blow dryer and make 200hp.

A car with some low end power and thats pretty awesome is the BMW 335i. It is a 3.0L 6cyl twin turbo. Makes max toruqe from 1500rpm to 5000rpm. They put down around 280whp stock, (only rated 300hp though!) and with a flash are making over 350! They start at 40k though...

**RJWZ28** · 08-18-2007, 07:10 AM

This Beetle will have power all over the place! ha ha ha! It'll be cute, pink, and blow the doors off cocky punks in their 'stangs trying to check out my pretty little wife

**2000T/A Guru** · 08-18-2007, 07:43 AM

As for the subaru comment, they suck, if you want to do anything to the motor you cant get at anything literally, they are horrible cars if you want to go past bolt ons.

**EE1983** · 08-18-2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru

As for the subaru comment, they suck, if you want to do anything to the motor you cant get at anything literally, they are horrible cars if you want to go past bolt ons.

I agree.

**nevrlift** · 08-18-2007, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

The Germans make some damn nice cars. They have their issues of course, but overall they are some world class vehicles. They know the right formulas for performance, twin turbo 6 cylinders, V8's, even their turbo 4 cylinders are designed so that the turbo spools at 1800RPM for increased low end, unlike 3,000 or 4,000RPM like Japanese 4 bangers. Most of their cars are RWD or AWD, too. Downsides are parts are espensive, they can be a real bitch to work on, and they have some reliability issues. Thats common for most imports though.

trying to talk the wifey into an A6 instead of a Acura TL