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Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
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Somebodies time of the month has rolled around...Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
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Originally Posted by Cayenne97
Apparently.... you do. :dunno:
somebody's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cayenne97
I just get tired of people judging cops when they've never been in the situation they are in.
Then using the phrase "little girl" to describe a 15 year old skank in a stolen car.
You trade your little girl status in at your first gang bang or stolen car ride. After that's you're free game to be exploited by society and getting your face kicked in when you press your luck.
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Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
2 wrongs don't make a right. Girl deserves appropriate punishment for what she did and the officer deserves appropriate punishment for what he did, end of story.
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Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
/thread.
Dolt? look whose talking :lol: Why get so lathered up because I think that two adults, cops or not could have handled the situation better?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Judging? Ivory tower? :lmao: Get a grip. Just saying they handled it inappropriately and now they will most likely suffer the consequences.
Guess we'll have to wait and find out ;)
And, apparently some little girls do ride around in stolen cars and deserve to go to jail for it too.
Pretty much what I've said too :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
X3..............:lock:?
Still can't answer the original question huh kitty cat?Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
Look, I don't want to start making fun of you if you're "special," which seems to be the case...Quote:
Originally Posted by bowtieguy02SS
But none of those quotes are calling her "mother theresa." Unless you meant a 15 year old mother theresa, in which case, they would share the same age... but that's about it.
"I can't believe there are people in here defending that POS cop!"
"She was complying with they're orders. She had a big mouth, who doesn't? No reason to beat the shit out of her. I have seen ADULTS get by with more then that and still not get beat down like that in jail."
etc.
I don't see any praise or compliments for her at all. Certainly nothing like you claimed.
I spent my first years in college at the University of New Haven, they have one of the best criminal justice programs in the state of Connecticut. I then finished college education at Southern Connecticut State University for Athletic Training. If your still reading your probably asking me "what is my point"? I've seen peers, my own age becoming Police officers, and working in a therapy clinic I see older officers in the area and there views. I Understand that It is a very difficult job. But, the older officers have a very different view point on the job, and the younger generation getting into law enforcement. I would say about 90% of people my own age in or getting in law enforcement, I would say have no business being in law enforcement. I cannot speak of issues in my area, because some situations I know of are not public knowledge, and regarding who the information gets back to. I know a lot of young officers, and many older officers, I wont get into details about situations, I can't. But, knowing what I know, and seeing what I've seen I feel that many people have the right to be very afraid of what officers are capable of when they "have a bad day". The last point I would like to make is that not all officers are capable of these atrocities. Like I said, I work with many officers that protect and serve the public, and do there job well. But, its situations like these that outrages the public. Regardless of whether or not this 15 year old girl deserved this beating, a grown man, a police officer did not have the right to give it to her.
What do you want me to say? That I am not a cop and I don't know what it feels like to be one?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Um, that's a given.
But, you make it seem as though I have no respect for the uniform and that makes you the one that is judging without merit.
You can't honestly say that this couldn't have been handled better. And, there are some cops out there that disgrace the badge and should not be cops at all. They make it tough for all the cops that out there doing their job.
I'm thinking that you are reading much more into my posts than is actually there. You seem to do that with me. :dunno:
Welp, I know I'm gonna be flamed/banned for my response, but, what the hell. Coming from a police dispatcher mother, I have been around law enforcement since the age of four. Every cop who knows me has taught me about the law and how to address an L.E.O. And I have been taught that in law enforcement brutality is a BIG no-no. N FKIN O. Self defense ONLY when attacked physically(swung at by fist, or with a weapon). This day and age folks are getting WAY too out of hand physically. But, I have learned from the old school cops who don't have many, if any, black marks on their jacket. A 15 year old would be restrained. Even if an adult kicked their shoe at me I would let them cool off and ask what that was about and, if they got nasty, I would remind them of an assault charge to change their tune. I was raised to "return fire if fired upon" or react physically if aggression was taken against me initially. I have met cops who have told me stories about grown men who act like they are UFC material, but when they are at the business end of a .45 things DO change. There is no excuse for roughing up a suspect for swearing or kicking a shoe at an officer. NONE. This officer may have given up their pension. And in this current state, pensions are nothing to play with.
Carry on/flame away.
One of my best friends is a dispatcher in Sacramento and her husband just made captain a few months ago. She feels the same way as I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by cammed goat
Being an officer does not give you the right to do physical harm when no threat of physical harm is evident.
Thank you!!! Its uncalled for. Doesn't matter if you are a citizen or an officer I don't see how you can justify kicking the shit out of a 15 year old no matter how out of line she is.Quote:
Originally Posted by cammed goat
yadda yadda yadda it was a yes or no question. You can't answer it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
Shit is not up for interpritation.
And again, don't comment on "cop's jobs" when you don't have a ounce of comprehension what that entails.
See... you can't even help yourself. You're not an analyst for that matter either.
EXACTLY. Being in law enforcement is a PRIVELEDGE(sp) which can be revoked if necessary. People don't hink about this when they take their oaths. UPHOLD, PROTECT, ENFORCE...NOT BULLY.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
My cop friends are very laid back, BUT if someone attempts to harm them, ALL BETS ARE OFF.
Being hit with a damn shoe would be the least of my worries if I were an L.E.O.
My sister's husband's friend who know's this guy that is an astronaut, so I'm going to call NASA and tell them that there shouldn't be anymore re-entry accidents and comment on the engineer's mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
This situation I can but out there, I don't know the officer, and there was an article in a local paper around where I live. But, it was regarding an officer tasering an 15 year old unarmed boy resisting arrest in school.
I don't agree with this use of force, even non lethal, if your an officer and you can restrain a 15 year old boy, then pick another profession.
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Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Man, you have issues don't ya :lol:
Guy! Stop pointing out that she's 15!Quote:
Originally Posted by big hammer
bowtieguy02SS is going to think you're defending her and comparing her to mother theresa.
Excellent response. Your debating skills are unmatched.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob00Taws6
You call this issue and your last post debatable?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
:lmao:
thanks! not the best at prof reading, was a little confused for a moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by cammed goat
that's what you sound like. Someone has no experience in the subject at hand offering her 0.02 like she's a subject matter expert.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
wow unnecessary
All this over a snotty ass 15 year old :lol:
Please, explain your qualifications.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Because I know 5 officers personally that all have 15 to 20 years of experience as officers that i know would say that was uncalled for. One by the way has pulled his gun once on a person, 18 years of service, and working in the city of New Haven.
And, I have friends that I know and meet in the criminal justice program "who are now cops" that would say she didn't get enough. By the way, these are the same friends of mine that name there guns and regularly talk about how tough they are.
please explain to me who deserves to get a beating form the police and who does not??? I wish to be enlightened.
typical liberal move, turn my expression into me using a direct quote. dont put words in my mouth i merely used that as an expression to emphasise that people are over looking the matter of her breaking the law and those quotes I pulled supported my statement. If you dont see that then you really need to work on your reading comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Don't feel like reading anywhere past this, but to this post and to the one before it on page 4: If you have this "advanced" training you are held to a standard higher than normal people. We trust someone to run around with a loaded gun at their hip, pull people over, speed, and use force as neccesary and pay them for it, they better damn well stay within their guidelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by cam02ss
In your previous post about her talking shit to the officer and eluding to the fact that his actions were justified because she called him a pig, you are absolutely wrong! There are certain words and phrases that are considered by law as "fighting words," but you have to prove a little something called actual malice (malicious intent) in order for it to stick. Calling a police officer a pig certainly doesn't justify the ass beating of a life-time (until she starts dating Chris Brown). The officer has training to deal with this, he couldn't, he stepped WAY over the line, and now he will pay the piper.
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I know! JESUS made the cop do it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT
Friend of mine, worked on police department in my area and retired. Said to me that a good Police officer doesn't need to have a college education. He or she just needs to be a people person, they need to be able to deal with the situations that people throw at them good and bad. They also need to have a good work ethic. my friends also has an excellent sense of humor. He said to me that these are the people that make the best police officers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 01ws6er
that girl will have some $$$ for that beating :)
Welllll nnnoooowww......It looks like i have started some shit...
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I honestly did not expect to have this thread blow up like it has. Everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion. I don't want something like this to cause some crazy heated argument between some of you members. So, uh...if that happens....it wasn't me.
^^ F*ck you.... This is ALL YOUR FAULT......
Might as well have beat that 15 year old girl yourself... :boxing:
:jk::lol:
Did you guys know the new KITT is a mustang?
It is :yup: I've seen it up close too. Several of them ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
I've already let a few know they've gone too far with some of their comments. Let's keep things civil and the discussion on topic. No more posts about other members opinions and/or debating skills.
This thread is soon to be :lock:
Completely agree!!! you pissed a lot of people off.Quote:
Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT
I'm going back to the thread with this !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NFZrLnbls
its amazing amazing!!! would not look at it at work though...
:lmao: Fucker! hahaha!!Quote:
Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT
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Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
That's not what I'm saying...They don't just look at ya and say, "hey you're a people person and never miss work ,here's a gun, badge, and a car with lights and sirens, have at it hoss!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob00Taws6
There is special training that goes along with being an officer/trooper and what I'm trying to say and to the person (Cam02SS) whose posts I quoted, is that since you now have this training, you now have a responsibility to act according to it. The training is there to provide you with a guideline of how to do your job, and if you choose to ignore it or cross the line you will be punished.
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Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
You're just now, telling us.... :bat:
:admin:
j/k :hide:
I had a similar situation happen at work today. This teenage girl comes in today and wants a refund on some cosmetics she had used but has no receipt. She was pretty cute as well. Well I inform her that without a receipt and since the product has been used, I am unable to refund her money. She gets all bent out of shape and starts telling me what a lousy manager I am and how she is gonna get me fired and how dare I refuse to return her money. She then proceeds to throw an ink pen at me and the refund slip. I snap at this point. I tried counting to ten, but got to 4 and couldnt take her cussing any further. I did consider calling the police to handle the matter, but I knew I could handle the situation fine by myself. I hop the counter and give her a falcon punch and then knee her in the face as she is clutching her stomach. I then proceed to shove her face first into the carpet and kicked her in the ribcage once. She wasn't seriously hurt, no broken bones or anything, she was bleeding from her nose, but nothing major. I figure she won't ever cuss a store manager again or disrespect any retailer in the immediate future. Walgreens and Walmart both called me after they heard about the incident and really was swinging from my nuts, I felt justified in my actions. She learned a lesson the hard way today, eye for an eye.
Dude! Are you serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
No, he's Preston :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kickflippin1
I think I found some video of your performance. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRkiouh5NEI
wow
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Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
Absolutely, and furthermore, if you have never worked retail management before, you are not allowed to have an opinion on the matter because you have no prior experience to relate too.Quote:
Originally Posted by kickflippin1
I was gonna say....damn...Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
I would love to do that to some people. Working the service desk at Target on the day after Christmas made me want to commit suicide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
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Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
I do understand what your saying, and I do not have that training. You sound like you have experience in law enforcement, whether it be some one in your family or yourself. Sounds like you see both sides of the issue better than most of us. I personally feel that the issue might have been avoided with the training you speak of, with the addition of solid morals. We never hear all the good acts officers provide there communities, or the many times officers have walked away form situations such as these.Quote:
Originally Posted by 01ws6er
3 years Philadelphia Police AVO unit (Abandoned Vehicle Officer)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob00Taws6
7+ years United States Army (2 deployments to Iraq) one up comming to afghanistan
My uncle is a philadelphia police officer, my 3 best friends are Philadelphia Police officers
4 years Sensitive Site exploitation subject matter expert
4 years intel analyst
Good enough?
No one is arguing that force was used. However the little brat got hers. And people sitting there sharp shooting this cop should take a sec and think about the crap they are spewing since they have no clue what it's like being in the public protection service
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Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
Fantastic. :lol:
incorrect. We've all had dealings with retail. Every purchase we make involves a retail transaction. It takes far less to procure a job in retail then it does being in the public service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
I'm not saying cops are rocket scientists, but they def have a certain measure of training and experience.
furthermore a police officer is an authority figure in society. Clerks don't generally fall under that catagory. So your clever story really is pointless to this subject.
Incorrect, I stated retail management and retail is public service. I am not saying retail managers are rocket scientists either, but you do have to have a certain measure of training and experience. A degree is helpful now days as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
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Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
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Originally Posted by KahanaReef
how in ordering inventory and working a point of sales system? I know 20 year old retail managers, let's not get carried away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
Yep, you can totally relate a clerk to a police officer lol
Philly, you have quite a chip on your shoulder. Take it down a notch.
Sheesh...
The biggest aspect of retail is customer service, not ordering inventory or working a point of sales system. I know lots of police officers, but if I recall earlier, you stated knowing a LEO was not the same as having hands on experience. Do you have any personal experience with retail management, or are you just drawing your opinions from second hand information?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
I'd say that theres a difference between being the customer and the person that has to deal with the customer. thats what his point was man. Yes I'd agree it probably sucks to work retail. Anybody that deals with customers has to deal with huge doses of bullshit at some point if not often. That being said theres also a huge difference between a "clerk" and a manager. just my 2 centsQuote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
A little bit of respect and restraint goes a long way. Obviously she didn't exhibit either of those traits when talking to the officers. There may have been a bit of excessive force involved but it seems to me that some force was necessary.
IMO she should kept her blow hole shut instead of spouting off.
I have stated multiple times now, retail management, not clerks. There is a huge difference between a manager and a clerk in dealing with the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Either contribute to the conversation or don't. Otherwise keep your advice to your yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
Kthanx
I ran a game stop and a radio shack when I was 20-21. So yes, I can speak from experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
ok, and how does any of that relate to having to enter a dark house and not shitting yourself when there is a perp inside waiting?Quote:
Originally Posted by 310stanger
Please, let's not try and make a connection with someone who wants to stab you and a customer pissed off because their coupon is expired.
I've contributed plenty. You're the only one that seems to have a problem with my contribution :pQuote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Thats good enough and your right i have no idea what the job is about. But regardless, i still would not agree with "her" parents beating her in such a way. and were not talking about a slap in the face, she was thrown to the ground by her hair and punched in the face twice. Close the door to the holding cell, walk away, and be the bigger man. don't take to heart what a 15 year old girl says to you, it don't matter. to me this is not a "cop" issue the fact that it was an officer is just rather disturbing. domestic violence ripped my family apart, and any man that hits a women regardless of whether shes a smart mouth brat or a 35 year old mother of three should burn. if it bothers you, show restrain, I'm sure with all your years of experience you have used restrain because it was morally right, or it kept food on your table for your family. regardless of the reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
i didnt interpret what he said as being a direct comparison. All he said was that it sucks to work retail. perhaps he meant more, i dunno. All kinds of jobs have their low points man.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Speaking for myself, I'm a bit disenchanted with wrenching on cars for a multitude of reasons, a big part of it is that customer transaction.
LOL Like what? Making a schdule? Having to deal with a district manager or a regional manager? Running training videos? Making the nightly deposite? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
Most inventory control is automatic. Most point of sales systems are automatic. Please, is everyone on crazy pills?
...after googling "sometimes you just gotta smack a hoe"
Sometimes you gotta smack a hoe
When that bitch gets in your flow
She's riding your jock
Spittin some crock
S'time you let the bitch know
Give her a smack with the back of your hand
Two for the measure, that's good!
Now three to the jaw!
Punish that maw!
Four cause you know that you should!
Most bitches learn by gettin smacked
It's a truly unfortunate thing
But when it's time
You'll know it's fine
To teach her a new tune to sing
Bitch, you got alot to say
So how bout a new conversation?
Talk to my fist
You gettin the gist?
Be grateful it aint strangulation
:lol: :wtf:
it isn't your contribution, it's your ability to hold a conversation or make a lucent point.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
Your contribution goes as far as to "defend this little girl." I dunno if you're aware but 15 year olds have a pretty good grasp of right and wrong
Hmmm I changed my mind. Maybe it's not the cops your so much sharp shooting, as the little brat you're identifying with?
maybe I should add a smiley to drive home my point.
Should he have been the bigger man? Sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob00Taws6
Did she get what she deserves? Oh yeah.
This guy is being demonized, but no one has walked a mile in his shoes and that's my point. Everyone wants to jump right to sentencing this guy.
We have all these law enforcement experts and lawyers adding their 0.02
At least the cop didn't strangle her. Like the song goes. . .
:haha: you kill me....
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Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
You really need to go back and read my posts! That is NOT what I said. I did not defend her or her actions.
Chill, Man...
And, you don't know if this guy doesn't have some major issues yourself?
I think thats the word you meantQuote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
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Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
You are a pharmacy manager... Poppin the pills, eh?:lol:
well this got out of hand real quick... how about some nice pics to cheer everyone up?
http://www.motifake.com/demotivation...1232033554.png
:lol: @ post-tits...
The above should be in the "Best movie Quote" thread.... :true:
stop telling me to chill, relax, identify a chip on my shoulder. If I want a psych exam I'll go to walter reed.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
referring to this criminal as a little girl waters down the issue at hand.
I'm sure he very well have some issues. Hmmm I wonder what made him snap?
Think it could be that crybabies like some of the posts in this thread put the law on the side of the criminal?
Think it could be that the scum he locks up sees the light of day the next few months?
How about the constant stress of not know who is going to want to pump you full of lead.
Here ya go:
Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Her actions do not justify the physical assault she experienced. The officer should have added further charges to her and walked away. Her actions were on camera and another officer was present to witness her actions. He gave up control of the situation with his aggression towards her and will most likely suffer the consequences for it and probably regret what he did. If he loses his job, loses his pension, gets any kind of fine or jail time for what he did, its not really worth it in the long run.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Apparently you're not allowed to argue with KahanaReef because:
She is a nice lady
Wow, just blatant favoritism
Only the good ones for me :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT
No...it's the personal attacks you continued with even after being warned to knock it off. I warned others and they got the message. You replied to me "no problem man". :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Have any more comments you'd like to make?
I like Kahana Reef :pQuote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
I reported her posts too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ntimid8r
There was no flaming going on. It's blatant favoritism. Nice lady? Where is the impartiality?
I've seen FAR WORSE said on here and nothing. It's the fact she's a female and you're a fan of her posts.
I apologise to LS1.com for defending my position against overwheling odds of being a nice lady.
I don't like or dislike her. I was engaged in a debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by levityinc3
No favortism involved, you have made several disrespectful comments towards her in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyLs1
Disrespectful in what manner? I did call her a dolt, and I complied. No other personal attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS
This is disrespectful to me, and others on LS1.com:
No sir. This is weaksauce and a bad call.Quote:
Originally Posted by ntimid8r
Calling her a nice lady is not impartial. You've made a judge on her character in relation to mine.
Um, just for the record... I didn't report any posts. Never have, never will.
Everyone just look at the kitty.
So then that explains it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
If you're telling the truth, he's just "decided" that he didn't like me engage'n you in a debate.
Wow, just wow.