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05-16-2012, 06:06 AM #1
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Bob Weight
I'm new to LS builds. Been through a few SBC deals but need some info on an 6.0lt LS shortblock. I'm specing some replacement forged psitons and upgraded rods for this build. Although it'll need a balance job I'd like to get close or lighter on the piston/rod assembly. What's the bob wieght on a stock LS crank?
I tried to search for a thread with this info but was not successful.
Thanks for any info you can give me.
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05-16-2012, 01:05 PM #2
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No one has this info? Any reccommend where I can get it?
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05-16-2012, 01:17 PM #3
Firebirdjones is usually the go to authority on 6.0 builds. I know he helped me on mine. Maybe he will chime in later this evening.
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05-17-2012, 03:28 PM #4
An excellent question. You'll need a starting point for bob weight to begin balancing, as I'm sure you are aware, that's going to change since you are using aftermarket rods and pistons.
I haven't had the pleasure of working with a 6.0 crank, and I'm certain the bob weight would be different from the 5.3/5.7 cranks since the pistons in a 6.0 are larger (aka: heavier). Unfortunately I don't have access to that kind of information anymore since I've moved, but if I had to make an educated guess I'd say a bob weight of 1800 would be in the ball park, if not very close.
A good machinist would know or should have access, especially one that has done alot of LS specific stuff.
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05-17-2012, 04:38 PM #5
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The bob weight should be around 1815g but I would call a machine shop to check those numbers.
My ride is a 2002 Camaro SS SLP #3296 with 30k, LTH, 3" Y, CME, Frost tune, K&N, ported TB, Blackwing lid, Bellows, MSD, Denso Iridium, and 85mm MAF, Bilsteins, Eibach springs, SLP strut brace, Adj. Panhard, TA Girdle, UMI, Pro 5.0, Nitto NT555
My wife has a 2004 GTO with the rare SAP, 18" wheels, K&N Cold Air System, MSD, Ported TB, Frost tune, Denso Iridium, Flowmaster cat-back, 3200 Yank, 75k
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05-18-2012, 08:00 AM #6
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Thanks for the info guys.
I have a set of SCAT I-beams w/7/16" capscrew bolts. They're balanced and weigh in at just over 590gms. I don't rememeber the big end/sm end split.
I'm waiting on a set of SRP FT's. They're supposed to weigh in at about 523gms w/pins. Don't know for sure but I'll weigh them + rings and locks. I'm shooting for ~1800-1810gms. If the bob weight of the crank is >1800gms. This should work w/o adding any weight to the crank.
My local machine shop doesn't have a torque plate for LS stuff. Anyone know a reputable machine shop in the Southern Ok or North Tx area that can torque plate hone my block?
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05-18-2012, 09:37 AM #7
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05-18-2012, 10:26 AM #8
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Thanks FBJones.
I just ran the numbers through my formula and the rotating assemble should be right at 1700gms. We'll drill a few holes in that stock crank. LOL
Again, I'm no LS expert(Actually now expert at all), but I hear the stock cranks are pretty tough for a cast unit. Is that the case? I'm planning a nice little street deal with a carb and a little giggle gas. Maybe 450 on nuts and 600HP on the bottle. If I had more $$$'s i go for a forged crank (with more stroke). But you know how it is. Money's tight.
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05-18-2012, 10:33 AM #9
Sounds like a cool project. Cast cranks are pretty decent pieces. If I were building on a budget I wouldn't hesitate to use it and then possibly spend that money saved somewhere else on the engine.
If you were really worried about it, (and a 150 shot isn't all that much) you could use a progessive controller so you don't hit it all at once, it's a little easier on parts that way.
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05-18-2012, 11:01 AM #10
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Yeah. I'm a gas user but on on "Old" SBC's. I have a full bodied 55Post car with a little sniff on it. Weighs 3750#'s and runs 9's. I am familiar with progressive controllers.
Bought a new 5.3l truck and was very impressed with it's performance(Especially after a Blackbear tune). Decided to build a 6.0l for a hotrod. We'll see how it goes.
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05-18-2012, 11:22 AM #11
Bit with the LS bug I see? I'm the same old school fart here with classic cars (mainly 60's muscle cars but I do have a 56 nomad) and I was bitten with the LS bug when we bought our first LS powered 4th gen camaro.
I've since swapped a 6.0 in my 72 blazer daily driver (sounded like a good idea) However I still love the "old" engines just as much.
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