Header installation

**Wesman** · 04-04-2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by greatwhiteZ28

in detroit my speed shop want almost $800 just for install on headers. he said would gve me adeal w pacestrs and install for 1250. lol i know

Wow...not much of deal.

**BlackLT1Z28** · 04-04-2007, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by greatwhiteZ28

in detroit my speed shop want almost $800 just for install on headers. he said would gve me adeal w pacestrs and install for 1250. lol i know

That's a rip. I hate labor rates. I don't think their time is worth that much. Hell, even a hooker's time isn't worth that much.

**Rare99Firehawk** · 04-04-2007, 12:41 PM

Thanks for the replies from all, I just don't feel like doing the work, I was a mechanic for 20 yrs. I would rather let a reputable shop do the work and have a warranty. I do work on my firehawk but didn't want to tackel cam, headers, gears, & the rest of the work.

**Wesman** · 04-04-2007, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rare99Firehawk

Thanks for the replies from all, I just don't feel like doing the work, I was a mechanic for 20 yrs. I would rather let a reputable shop do the work and have a warranty. I do work on my firehawk but didn't want to tackel cam, headers, gears, & the rest of the work.

You're a mechanic, but you're not going to do the install yourself??

Its not like you're pulling the motor apart or anything...do you just not have a place to do it??

I'm no professional mechanic, but I do all the mods/work that I can possible do myself.

I've found that if I don't do it myself, all too many times it doesn't get done right. Regardless of who's doing it

**BlackLT1Z28** · 04-04-2007, 01:45 PM

I think spending $3K would be enough incentive for me to do it myself if I could. Its either spend some time doing it or be out $3K after its all said and done. Shit, I'd rather keep the 3K...

**yellowv** · 04-04-2007, 05:05 PM

I'm sorry but no self respecting mechanic lets anyone touch his car. Not to mention that blueprint comment leads me to believe our "20 year mechanic" probably isn't even 20 years old.

**AKIRA** · 04-04-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by BlackLT1Z28

Wow, $3K doesn't sound too bad for all the work you're getting done.

Yes it does. Unless that includes parts, that is outrageous.

**Rare99Firehawk** · 04-04-2007, 08:43 PM

First off I'm not 20 yrs old, I wish I could be that age again, or even your age 28 but I,m not .I've been here for a little longer 53 yrs to be exact. You are right about some places cutting corners and such I agree, and I can do the work myself, but I choose to have a reputable shop like Bier Bros Performance to do it for me. They do very good work.The money is not an Issue the price is for parts & labor +tax out the door with a warranty. That is good enough for me.

**Wesman** · 04-04-2007, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rare99Firehawk

First off I'm not 20 yrs old, I wish I could be that age again, or even your age 28 but I,m not .I've been here for a little longer 53 yrs to be exact. You are right about some places cutting corners and such I agree, and I can do the work myself, but I choose to have a reputable shop like Bier Bros Performance to do it for me. They do very good work.The money is not an Issue the price is for parts & labor +tax out the door with a warranty. That is good enough for me.

Just curious...what kind of warranty are they giving you on headers?? I mean what is there to go wrong?? If they break thats a manufacturers defect, if they leak you replace the gaskets. Not much of a "warranty" if you ask me, there just isn't much too it.

**iceblocks** · 04-04-2007, 09:31 PM

if you have any experience, do it yourself, it will be fun and worth it

**0rion** · 04-05-2007, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

I've found that if I don't do it myself, all too many times it doesn't get done right. Regardless of who's doing it

That's the number one reason I work on my cars. Everytime I've ever let anyone touch my cars it's never done correctly. Example. I had my subframes welded in basically because I can't weld for shit or I would've did them myself. So they guy welds my red powdercoated subframes in and paints the welds and 6" around the welds with black spray paint. Come on, use your head. If I would've wanted black subframes I would've ordered them that way. I repainted them when I got the car back home. Moron.

**BlackLT1Z28** · 04-05-2007, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

Just curious...what kind of warranty are they giving you on headers?? I mean what is there to go wrong?? If they break thats a manufacturers defect, if they leak you replace the gaskets. Not much of a "warranty" if you ask me, there just isn't much too it.

He not just getting headers, he's getting a cam, tranny work, gears, and a tune. There's a use for a warranty there.

**Rare99Firehawk** · 04-05-2007, 02:00 PM

Thanks Black LT1 Z28, the warranty covers all parts and labor. If it breaks they will fix it. All of the parts I bought thru them and is covered as long as they are not brutilized. My firehawk is for car shows, cruzin & fun, dont get me wrong I go to the drag strip once in a while and let her eat, but my hawk is 1 of 4 that was produced by SLP in 99. I bought it for that reason, and to enjoy.

**PontiacFan** · 04-05-2007, 08:01 PM

Gees Rare99, You'd think that with 20 years experience you could do that yourself & save the money! What the hell were you thinking?!?
Plus you'd get to have parts strung out all over your one stall garage, fightin' for lights, breakin' yer knuckles, searchin' for the right tool, ..., going uptown to buy the damn right tool, ..., It just goes on & on.
Less headche route? Hire a reputable shop to do it.
Have it done & enjoy the ride aferwards!

Now, ..., Someone in/near central Nebraska wanna do an FLP header & Y-pipe installation for me for $50? $100? $200? And gaurantee your work?!?

**0rion** · 04-05-2007, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by PontiacFan

Gees Rare99, You'd think that with 20 years experience you could do that yourself & save the money! What the hell were you thinking?!?
Plus you'd get to have parts strung out all over your one stall garage, fightin' for lights, breakin' yer knuckles, searchin' for the right tool, ..., going uptown to buy the damn right tool, ..., It just goes on & on.
Less headche route? Hire a reputable shop to do it.
Have it done & enjoy the ride aferwards!

Now, ..., Someone in/near central Nebraska wanna do an FLP header & Y-pipe installation for me for $50? $100? $200? And gaurantee your work?!?

The scenario you describe is not of a mechanic but of someone that's just learning. Back in the old days I would do all of those but after a couple of years I finally have pretty much all the tools, keep them organized, and keep spare lightbulbs in the garage.

**Rare99Firehawk** · 04-06-2007, 12:30 PM

20 yrs.as a mechanic $30,000 in tools,(neatly organized) in 2 MB1500 series toolboxes, garage with heat & lighting but still I'd rather pay $3000toa reputable shop to do the work

**Wesman** · 04-06-2007, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Rare99Firehawk

20 yrs.as a mechanic $30,000 in tools,(neatly organized) in 2 MB1500 series toolboxes, garage with heat & lighting but still I'd rather pay $3000toa reputable shop to do the work

I can't imagine lol...if I had a facility like that, with all those tools neatly organized and ready to use, I would jump at the chance to install mods.

If you'd rather have someone else do it though, hey, thats your choice