RunRite fuel system cleaner

[ocshaman]

The Chemtool B12 is basically just a cheaper version of Seafoam motor treatment, made by a different company. Its about half the price, and works about half as well also lol. I've tried both, the B12 works, but it doesn't clean the engine out nearly as well as Seafoam does. When you feed the B12 into the engine through the brake booster, it bogs down and stalls quickly. Once you start the motor back up, it hardly makes any smoke either. If you feed the Seafoam through the brake booster at a steady rate, the motor will load up but it usually won't stall. It will make tons of blueish/white/gray smoke out the exhaust, since its cleaning the whole engine out.

Give Seafoam a try, I think you will like it better

Chemical testing has shown the B12 to be a stronger solvent than the Seafoam, and a much beter price. The smoke is a chemical in the seafoam that is burning off. Soak a plug in one of each and post up pics.

[ocshaman]

The Chemtool B12 is basically just a cheaper version of Seafoam motor treatment, made by a different company. Its about half the price, and works about half as well also lol. I've tried both, the B12 works, but it doesn't clean the engine out nearly as well as Seafoam does. When you feed the B12 into the engine through the brake booster, it bogs down and stalls quickly. Once you start the motor back up, it hardly makes any smoke either. If you feed the Seafoam through the brake booster at a steady rate, the motor will load up but it usually won't stall. It will make tons of blueish/white/gray smoke out the exhaust, since its cleaning the whole engine out.

Give Seafoam a try, I think you will like it better

Chemical testing has shown the B12 to be a much stronger solvent than the Seafoam, and a much beter price. The smoke is a chemical in the seafoam that is burning off. Soak a plug in one of each and post up pics.

[ocshaman]

Seafoam shows naptha and Isopropyl alcohol with a mineral oil carrier(what smokes)

http://www.montanajacks.com/msds/seafoam-msds.pdf

Berryman's shows toluene and acetone as the main ingredients

http://www.berrymanproducts.com/Port...0MSDS/0216.pdf

Much harsher chemicals

[Wesman]

Seafoam shows naptha and Isopropyl alcohol with a mineral oil carrier(what smokes)

http://www.montanajacks.com/msds/seafoam-msds.pdf

Berryman's shows toluene and acetone as the main ingredients

http://www.berrymanproducts.com/Port...0MSDS/0216.pdf

Much harsher chemicals

If you say so.

I will still use Seafoam though. I believe its an overall better product, hence the reason its double the price.

[SPECOPS94]

The Chemtool B12 is basically just a cheaper version of Seafoam motor treatment, made by a different company. Its about half the price, and works about half as well also lol. I've tried both, the B12 works, but it doesn't clean the engine out nearly as well as Seafoam does. When you feed the B12 into the engine through the brake booster, it bogs down and stalls quickly. Once you start the motor back up, it hardly makes any smoke either. If you feed the Seafoam through the brake booster at a steady rate, the motor will load up but it usually won't stall. It will make tons of blueish/white/gray smoke out the exhaust, since its cleaning the whole engine out.

Give Seafoam a try, I think you will like it better

I haven't ever tried to feed it through the brake booster. It is recommended to dump directly into the crank case via the filler neck and that is what I do. I also dump it directly in the tank for the fuel system. I run the engine for a few minutes and then drain. It has always performed amazingly and, when used properly and as part of regular maintenance, it maintains both the fuel and oiling systems and keeps them very clean. As far as the smoke, I have NEVER had any engine displace smoke when using the B12!?! Based upon my experience the B12 is an absolute performer. Great updates on chem makeup guys keep up the great posts!

[Hurley711]

Getting ready to use FP60 this weekend, do you put it in before or after fillu p or does it matter?

[Sarge]

Dont matter Hurley....folks, be real careful of putting various solvents in your tank.....real careful...OK..

[Hurley711]

Dont matter Hurley....folks, be real careful of putting various solvents in your tank.....real careful...OK..

Sarge it says to double up first dose, watta ya think about that???

[GatorSS]

...The 1st time the fuel system failed we had been using 10% ethanol Sunoco prem gas.It only lasted 10k miles before the Ethanol ate through the fuel rail.The trouble with ethanol fuels is they are oxygen carrying,that means they COLLECT water vapor and there is no way to stop this action.SO...every time you fill up you get a shot of water too,let that sitting in the bare carbon steel fuel rail along with ethanol and before you can say jack rabbit slim you have a rusted mess.

Ethanol belongs in a glass...

[unnatural aspirations]

so what happens when you use seafoam in your oil system.....does it rev better...get better oil psi.gas mileage less oil burn..what....

[ocshaman]

Sarge it says to double up first dose, watta ya think about that???

I think that LC has changed their stance on the shock dose recently. The website no longer has it mentioned on the FP page.
http://www.lubecontrol.com/fuel.htm

I also agree with Sarge. Solvents might just solventize your engine seals, although Seafoam has a low enough flash point that it will disappear after the engine has been up to temp for a while.

[Wesman]

so what happens when you use seafoam in your oil system.....does it rev better...get better oil psi.gas mileage less oil burn..what....

It basically cleans out the crankcase. I wouldn't leave it in there for any longer than a few miles, since its a liquid. Just pour it in before you change your oil, drive it for a couple miles, and then drain the oil and refill. Oil should come out pretty dirty

[Hurley711]

I didn't shock, I used 3 1/2 ounces for 16 gallons, just a tad over 3 per 5 gallons. That;s first dose. Gonna use 1 ounce per 5 gallons next weekend, than once a month I will use 1 ounce per 5 gallons

[Hurley711]

Shit this can't be right but I used this stuff, the FP60, last weekend and I used 1/4 less of a tank than I usually do during the week. This is the same drive for 5 years now, and after a week I am on empty by Friday night. Tongiht though I still have a 1/4 tank left

[Sarge]

Just hang on...I am telling you this stuff works for performance and mileage....

[Hurley711]

Now you can help me out...man I am struggling....I love the 402 ...she is built to the max...heads/cam///the works...trannie built for bear...4L65E Stage 5 by Finish Line....custom built driveshaft by Extreme Performance...rear end/axles....blah blah blah....new stall in this week...Yank Race Convertor ( Vig shit the bed)...here is my issue...dayum I cannot quit thinking what this beast would be like with a ProCharger DSC-1....talk me out of it Hurley.

Sarge I have a solution....buy the Procharger...and send it to me!!

[Hurley711]

Just an update here fellas. On the recommendation of Sarge I went out and bought FP60 and starting using it. Well I did my routine stop and go work driving, this time with the FP60 in the tank. Numbers were:

136.1 miles driven
6.832 gallons used=




19.9 MPG........UP from 17.5 FP60 is the shit, I came home with an extra 1/4 of a tank of gas last week...not a misprint, an extra 1/4 of a tank than I usually have left

[Sarge]

Yup...and efficiency = Horsepower

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

I just ordered some fp60 also...only the 32oz for right now though. Do ya just kinda estiguess what 3oz's for a tank looks like?

[Hurley711]

I just ordered some fp60 also...only the 32oz for right now though. Do ya just kinda estiguess what 3oz's for a tank looks like?

I bought the little plastic bottle for measuring, only cost like $1.99 from them