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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    hey dont count out the PI 4.6 2v. if the stars align in just the right way they can blast a 13.9 @100.
    I like the all the GT's personally. But posting a video of a brand new "pony" car (if you could even call it that) losing to another car with a shitty driver, rolling on a platform that's 12 years old, that doesn't even put down 225rwhp like it's impressive or something is pretty fucking weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    Oh cool so no torque in a useful rpm range. They suck as flower planters also
    Um what?

    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    Yeah the 3.5 DOHC was just such an engineering marvel they put it in 1 car for what 2, 3 years tops
    SO?

    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    My LQ1 felt something similar. Didn't do shit until 3900 then look out wasn't much to give a shit over. I mean it was omg balls to the wall brutal like you claim them to be
    What does this have to do with this thread?? I don't even see mention of the LQ1 till came along..

    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    You're forgetting the L26 n/a engine... You see the 3.5 was the DOHC waste of metal availabe during the LSQ years. Since the LQ1 was phased out for emissions etc...
    You don't seem to realize I'm mocking how you post conctantly about the 3:4 if somebody dares to mention anyother engine.Funnything about the LQ1 it got worse fuel economy than my heavier and blown 3800 powered turd.
    ZZP does those power numbers all day long on stock 3800s acually they hit that range at the wheels
    And you don't seem to realize this has nothing to do with anything.. But good for them..

    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    3.6 wasn't in production during the 4th gen productions thus my mentioning of the 3.5 dohc. Way to dodge my comment.
    How caqn you not compare 2 engines? So what if the engine's limit has been discovered? Could it be nobody ever cared since for years they were notorious for blowing intake gaskets head gaskets and spinning and or chucking rods?Btw just imagine the power and efficiency the Buick engine would have had they gone di with it?
    As for your needing some dumb ass magazine economy comments just read the epa stickers. L67 was rated 18 and 28 and its a known and documented fact they do far better when you behave yourself. Shit I saw 30 or better regularly modified. You just need to read places other than Ben's site and here
    Best I ever got in my 94 was 27... 3.43 gears vs a 2.93 its common sense really
    You're highly lacking in LQ1 knowledge.. And full of it as well..

    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    No it shows how awesome a 660 is because it still lost to a 2 valve 4.6
    Umm what?

    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    By the way Smittro I've driven a new Camaro with a 6. It had long tubes high flow cats and a Borla cat back. It sounded like a fart in a tube and felt slower than an Iron Duke
    Good for you.. Oppinions vary..

    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    I take that back. The fart in a tube would sound better
    Sigh..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transamws6 View Post
    I like the all the GT's personally. But posting a video of a brand new "pony" car (if you could even call it that) losing to another car with a shitty driver, rolling on a platform that's 12 years old, that doesn't even put down 225rwhp like it's impressive or something is pretty fucking weak.
    That is your opinion..

    The video has to do with the discusion in this thread..

    If the GT needs a driver mod to beat a small displacement v6 in a 4 million pound car, then I say the mighty V8 GT in the video is ass..

    Horse power and torque does'nt mean shit if you can't turn it or get it to the road..

    Posting your opinion on whether a video is "weak" or whatever has nothing to do with thIS discussion..

    Posts like this from folks whom don't even own an f-body or any Camaro @ all is what is truely weak..

    Go get a sports car and then we'll talk..

    Until then,,, take Mr. "I once had an LQ1, and an l67" with you and ..
    Last edited by Smittro; 04-19-2011 at 04:37 AM.

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    I've been hearing, from a GM exec that V8's are on their way out. Like not tomorrow, but think about it..

    high gas prices, V6's with high horsepower, lighter stronger materials...just a matter of time.

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    Smitty my LQ1 went through a couple sets of intake gaskets in my ownership time like everyother 60* engine has. Many 60* engines have lost head gaskets and early ones are famous for spinning rods and or chucking them. Take your fucking blinders off and learn somethings. Maybe they've finally made them reliable I don't know nor ever plan to give them a chance after the headaches I had with mine. Read plenty of similar stories with other 60 owners so cram it if you got lucky.
    Smitty actually get that red paper weight in your car and running and I'll consider buying a V6 sports car so I can be as thuper as you

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat-top View Post
    I've been hearing, from a GM exec that V8's are on their way out. Like not tomorrow, but think about it..

    high gas prices, V6's with high horsepower, lighter stronger materials...just a matter of time.
    Odd the next gen is supposed to be over head cam and di and coming in a few years is the buzz at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    Odd the next gen is supposed to be over head cam and di and coming in a few years is the buzz at work.

    well DI for sure. hopefully not OHC.

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    Smitty why are you even here if all you love is the 60* junk anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    That is your opinion..

    The video has to do with the discusion in this thread..

    If the GT needs a driver mod to beat a small displacement v6 in a 4 million pound car, then I say the mighty V8 GT in the video is ass..

    Horse power and torque does'nt mean shit if you can't turn it or get it to the road..

    Posting your opinion on whether a video is "weak" or whatever has nothing to do with thIS discussion..

    Posts like this from folks whom don't even own an f-body or any Camaro @ all is what is truely weak..

    Go get a sports car and then we'll talk..

    Until then,,, take Mr. "I once had an LQ1, and an l67" with you and ..
    What are you talking about?

    What I said wasn't an opinion, it's a fact. Everyone knows the 2V GT's are dogshit slow when stock or close to it. You're just helping me prove my point even more here, the fact that the V6 5th gen in the video you posted couldn't put any distance on that GT is downright pitiful. Especially because of the fact that it's a brand new car rolling on a fresh and new platform. It really just shows how much of a turd that car truly is from a performance standpoint

    Also, I'm an 18 year old, you're a grown man and you drive a teenaged girls "sports" car, if you can even call it that. So for that reason, I wouldn't be talking about anybody else's vehicle if I were you.
    Last edited by Transamws6; 04-19-2011 at 08:53 AM.

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