Third Gens

**1998 T/A** · 05-25-2010, 06:56 PM

may pick up a third gen camaro this summer...the point is i know that they run about 200hp stock, give or take a few. My question is what should i add to get more hp and tq out of these cars. i know emissions cotrols took a toll on the output for these cars...suggestions and or expected power output?

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**dklowrider** · 05-25-2010, 07:01 PM

crate motor.

**Y2KPewterSS** · 05-25-2010, 07:04 PM

Are you against a motor swap? Possibly an LSx motor swap?

**1998 T/A** · 05-25-2010, 07:21 PM

tryin to keep it cheap...theres a local kid sellin a 92 with the 305 in it, automatic...it needs a couple grand in body work so i dunno, kind of would like to keep the 305, maybe get some bored out heads and do full bolt ons

**Smittro** · 05-25-2010, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by 1998 T/A

tryin to keep it cheap...theres a local kid sellin a 92 with the 305 in it, automatic...it needs a couple grand in body work so i dunno, kind of would like to keep the 305, maybe get some bored out heads and do full bolt ons

imho 305 is'nt worth your time. Get a 4-bolt 350 and go from there. Have to make it breath to get to a chevys power.

**big hammer** · 05-25-2010, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

imho 305 is'nt worth your time. Get a 4-bolt 350 and go from there. Have to make it breath to get to a chevys power.

dont even need a 4 bolt. a 2 bolt is easily capable of 400hp. some people even go as far to say that 4 bolts are weaker due to the extra holes in the main webbing.

i ran 600+ hp on a 2 bolt 400, stock crank and rods but studded. take it form me, no matter what you build, stud the bottom end! a couple hundred bucks could save you thousands!

**Smittro** · 05-25-2010, 08:10 PM

I prolly should'nt have said the 305 is'nt worth your time. My bad.... Because I get heckled about liking v6's.. Build what you like. There's always forced induction. Or even spray it..

**Smittro** · 05-25-2010, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by big hammer

dont even need a 4 bolt. a 2 bolt is easily capable of 400hp. some people even go as far to say that 4 bolts are weaker due to the extra holes in the main webbing.

i ran 600+ hp on a 2 bolt 400, stock crank and rods but studded. take it form me, no matter what you build, stud the bottom end! a couple hundred bucks could save you thousands!

I'd put a 4bolt 350 sbc against a 2 bolt 350 any day..

**big hammer** · 05-25-2010, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

I prolly should'nt have said the 305 is'nt worth your time. My bad.... Because I get heckled about liking v6's.. Build what you like. There's always forced induction. Or even spray it..

you're right though--- if you're building, a 305 isnt worth your time. but if it's in there and a strong engine, a simple cam, carb intake and header will make it twice the engine.

**big hammer** · 05-25-2010, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

I'd put a 4bolt 350 sbc against a 2 bolt 350 any day..

i've built both, and wouldn't build a 350 again. too small.

i've never had a crank\rod failure with either anyway.

**Smittro** · 05-25-2010, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by big hammer

you're right though--- if you're building, a 305 isnt worth your time. but if it's in there and a strong engine, a simple cam, carb intake and header will make it twice the engine.

agree

**1998 T/A** · 05-26-2010, 08:29 AM

ya its just the way its going right now with work i dont think im going be able to afford another LS1 this summer. i had a third gen v6 in high school and i like those body styles so just trying to find the fastest way to get behind another muscle car. i'll keep my eyes open for a 350 but who knows

**67CamaroRSSS** · 05-26-2010, 09:30 AM

The small bore of the 305 tends to shroud valves. And the 305 swirl port heads are basically junk. The LO3 engines (TBI type - looks kinda like a carb) put out only 170hp.

If you can find one put a worked over 400 in it. That with the TPI setup and some gears will give you an easy 12 second ride.

**big hammer** · 05-26-2010, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS

The small bore of the 305 tends to shroud valves. And the 305 swirl port heads are basically junk. The LO3 engines (TBI type - looks kinda like a carb) put out only 170hp.

If you can find one put a worked over 400 in it. That with the TPI setup and some gears will give you an easy 12 second ride.

yeah swirl port heads aren not for hp--- they're for low end torque. i like the way they act in my 89 chev, but not for a car.

i love 400 sb's though! good power for cheap.

**Smittro** · 05-26-2010, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS

The small bore of the 305 tends to shroud valves. And the 305 swirl port heads are basically junk. The LO3 engines (TBI type - looks kinda like a carb) put out only 170hp.

If you can find one put a worked over 400 in it. That with the TPI setup and some gears will give you an easy 12 second ride.

Which is about 10hp more than a single cam 3.4L v6. and 30-45hp less than the tdc 3.4L w body which will eat a 305.. 30 less than the 3800II.. 305 is about twice as heavy as the 207's. But to each thier own. I would'nt muk with a 305 but then again not many folks here like to muk with v6's either.. Even with headers and a cai, only going to see stock 3800II power levels.. Just my .02..