Stupid Nissan Mechanics

**Tobynine9** · 01-02-2009, 03:48 PM

Stealerships are stealerships and no offense to anyone here who's a professional mechanic, but most shop techs and/or mechanics can't tell their elbows from their assholes w/o an SES code.

**Krazydan** · 01-03-2009, 05:46 AM

My car at work is a Nissan Versa 1.8 and it sounds like a deisel truck when I start it in the morning. Mech say its normal????

**Y2KSS1363** · 01-03-2009, 07:21 AM

Gee, I thought that only Chevy dealers tried pulling that stuff.

Dealers are good for warranty work and not much more.

Find a good independent shop for service and repairs.

**JoshieDoom** · 01-03-2009, 07:26 AM

If possible always mark/ paint/etc the part that needs to be changed. Something that no one will notice but you can. Stealerships suck

**310stanger** · 01-03-2009, 09:24 AM

dealerships suck because the customer always wants something for nothing and thinks a warranty goes a million miles. Posts like these are the exact reason I've about had it with the auto service business. Its not a mechanics decision on whether or not a customers car receives a new engine that could cost several thousand dollars. That stuff has to get approved. Theres a lot of paperwork and redtape with this stuff. The mechanic just wants to make sure he gets paid for his time. I wish I could generalize other peoples jobs as much as technicians get judged. Shit I think drug dealers are held in higher regard.

**TransAm11973** · 01-03-2009, 09:56 AM

its not that all mechanics are bad, thats not what is being said, i mean I am a mechanic (for railcars) but still........its that dealerships are a business just like anyplace else and are out to make money. The problem is that there is a high percentage of people that are taken advantage of due to their lack of car knowlege....... My grandfather was a master mechanic who owned his own business, he never would have dreamed of doing some of this BS things I have seen and heard of stealerships doing. Its a matter of mindset and the setting of the company. In my mothers case they charged her 200+ extra dollars for something that they didnt do. It was also a repair that she wouldnt be able to see to justify that it was done. It took me time of taking apart the intake, TB, sensors to find the problem.......Now the TB and sensors were dirty as hell, and did need to be cleaned etc.....but it was not performed by the dealership and they charged for it....I always find out that she will take her car in for a oil change, and come out with a bill for like 600+ dollars b/c the dealership said she needed it.....I will get a copy from her of the work report and its unbelievable some of the things they said she needed and what they charged to do it.....there is a point of where doing what NEEDS to be done on the car stops and just a list of extra senseless bullshit starts.........Now mind you I am not on here to make enemies......this is just my opinion......its just what I see

**Pulse Red GTO** · 01-03-2009, 10:08 AM

Did they send you stuff on the recalls?? We just bought our new 08 back in June & haven't heard of any recalls. Also our car always sits in our garage & it is heated so it never gets cold, but we were in St. Louis at my brothers this weekend & it sat out & went to go home Thurs & it was knocking bad!!!! It only did it for about the first 5-10 min till it got warmed up good, then it quit, but I have never heard it before!

**Crimson Sin** · 01-03-2009, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by TransAm11973

nissan techs are bullshit...my mom has a 2004 pathfinder.....last time she took it in the charged her all the money b/c she needed a TB cleaning and adjustment etc.....which I told her I could have done but it was too late.....anyway.....so I was using her car on a trip and rpm started going from 2000-4000 for no reason, had no acceleration, and the shifting was all f-cked up...when I got the car back, i started checking intake for water, TB positioning sensor etc.....sure enough the TB is dirty as shit, checked the SES code and it says idle sensor/ TB sensor malfunc......so I take it to nissan and am like look, she paid for you assholes to clean and recalibrate this thing and you didnt......you could even tell the gasket was old......so the nissan guy was all like, humm thats strange I dont know why they would do that.......well l do, you see a unsuspecting women and try to take her money....so I told them they had to do the work that she paid for, which they did, and I got them to give her a credit.........just proves the stealerships are just that stealerships........at one time it was bad enough that they were doing work on your car and charging you for it when you didnt really need it.... now they are charging you and not even performing the work.....I can see this happening at a small shady mech. but not a place like nissan......shows you they are all bullshit.....I feel sorry for people who dont know or understand enough to either work on their car or know whats going on with it. I told her from now on before she takes her car in or agrees to anything she has to call me.

Crap like that frosts my ass. But you cannot say EVERYONE does that, There's good and there's bad. Personally I would love to firebomb any shop that pulled that crap.
And I run a shop, I would SO fire, then legally prosecute anyone in my shop that pulled that. Trust is the only thing that keeps us smaller guys afloat. And each horror story like that hurts Every shop.

Bastiges

**Crimson Sin** · 01-03-2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Krazydan

My car at work is a Nissan Versa 1.8 and it sounds like a deisel truck when I start it in the morning. Mech say its normal????

Yeah and GM says it's normal for an LS1/2 to eat a quart of oil every 3k too...

**02transamce** · 01-03-2009, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Pulse Red GTO

Did they send you stuff on the recalls?? We just bought our new 08 back in June & haven't heard of any recalls. Also our car always sits in our garage & it is heated so it never gets cold, but we were in St. Louis at my brothers this weekend & it sat out & went to go home Thurs & it was knocking bad!!!! It only did it for about the first 5-10 min till it got warmed up good, then it quit, but I have never heard it before!

09 sonata,thank you very much!!!i work at hmma and hope you enjoy your sonata.as far a dealers go they are the same as every other business,some honest hard working people and some lazy-ass slackers that give them a bad name,i worked with both at my former job(ford dealer tech).

**TransAm11973** · 01-03-2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Crimson Sin

Crap like that frosts my ass. But you cannot say EVERYONE does that, There's good and there's bad. Personally I would love to firebomb any shop that pulled that crap.
And I run a shop, I would SO fire, then legally prosecute anyone in my shop that pulled that. Trust is the only thing that keeps us smaller guys afloat. And each horror story like that hurts Every shop.

Bastiges

i agree with you totally

**tornado** · 01-03-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by casperss

Sorry I just wanted to vent a bit here. Wow I just got my wife's 2008 Altima back from the dealer. it has a few issues like a air bag recall and the low tire psi light that comes on whenever it wants to, but according to them nothings wrong, thats BS. All the tires are at 32psi and the light still comes on going down the road. anyways here is the big one that is going to end the life of the car. it knocks to no end. Now the knock does get quieter the longer it runs but it doesn't ever go away. Now according to them again it is a normal sound... WTF it didn't do this when we bought it. here tell me what you think I'll post up a short vid of the knocking sound. sorry for the bad quality...
http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...t=MOV07014.flv

The TPMS lit is pain in the ass,worst thing they can do,but as for fixing it,air them up 1 psi highre than what is recoomended on the door and drive for .2 of a mile and it will reset and yea make sure they are EXACTLY at the same psi.

**casperss** · 01-03-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Pulse Red GTO

Did they send you stuff on the recalls?? We just bought our new 08 back in June & haven't heard of any recalls. Also our car always sits in our garage & it is heated so it never gets cold, but we were in St. Louis at my brothers this weekend & it sat out & went to go home Thurs & it was knocking bad!!!! It only did it for about the first 5-10 min till it got warmed up good, then it quit, but I have never heard it before!

Yes we got the paper in the mail about a week ago. but it was for the air bag only. not the tire psi monitor or the knocking sound. As for the vid. goes the car had been warming up out in the driveway for about ten min. and the vid was taken with the temp gauge midways between cold and hot.

I didn't mean to stir up a fuss over this with everyone. I know alot of mechanics out there are honest hard working people but for this dealership to tell me nothings wrong with anything I spoke to them about geez come on. the air bag light still comes on showing that it's turned off with a adult sized person in the seat. I don't think that the car should beable to decide who gets the air bag during a crash. I have also been seaching the web and alot of other nissan owners are making the same complaints about these cars. IMO the air bag issue is a real problem that needs to be fixed.

Again I'm sorry if I offended anyone on here....

**casperss** · 01-03-2009, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by tornado

The TPMS lit is pain in the ass,worst thing they can do,but as for fixing it,air them up 1 psi highre than what is recoomended on the door and drive for .2 of a mile and it will reset and yea make sure they are EXACTLY at the same psi.

??? wouldn't adding more air create uneven tire wear? Like wear out the center before the sides.

**310stanger** · 01-03-2009, 02:16 PM

As a tech, I can honestly say I truly hate the advent of TPMS lights. What a stupid waste of technology that causes so many waste of time trips to the dealer for both customer and technician.

**310stanger** · 01-03-2009, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Crimson Sin

Crap like that frosts my ass. But you cannot say EVERYONE does that, There's good and there's bad. Personally I would love to firebomb any shop that pulled that crap.
And I run a shop, I would SO fire, then legally prosecute anyone in my shop that pulled that. Trust is the only thing that keeps us smaller guys afloat. And each horror story like that hurts Every shop.

Bastiges

Thats basically my point, I just got a lil ticked earlier.

Yes there are a lot of dishonest techs/service managers out there, and they ruin it for the honest techs that are trying to make a good living doing the right thing. They hurt me as much as they hurt you because not only do they piss the customer off and drive them out of dealerships but when i've had to work with these guys, I've often got stuck with their comebacks. Part of the problem is that the dealers wanna pay as low a rate as they can and this often means they hire a lot of losers because no good technician wants to work for free. Its really the dealers and not the dealer techs that are greedy most of the time guys.

**310stanger** · 01-03-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by TransAm11973

its not that all mechanics are bad, thats not what is being said, i mean I am a mechanic (for railcars) but still........its that dealerships are a business just like anyplace else and are out to make money. The problem is that there is a high percentage of people that are taken advantage of due to their lack of car knowlege....... My grandfather was a master mechanic who owned his own business, he never would have dreamed of doing some of this BS things I have seen and heard of stealerships doing. Its a matter of mindset and the setting of the company. In my mothers case they charged her 200+ extra dollars for something that they didnt do. It was also a repair that she wouldnt be able to see to justify that it was done. It took me time of taking apart the intake, TB, sensors to find the problem.......Now the TB and sensors were dirty as hell, and did need to be cleaned etc.....but it was not performed by the dealership and they charged for it....I always find out that she will take her car in for a oil change, and come out with a bill for like 600+ dollars b/c the dealership said she needed it.....I will get a copy from her of the work report and its unbelievable some of the things they said she needed and what they charged to do it.....there is a point of where doing what NEEDS to be done on the car stops and just a list of extra senseless bullshit starts.........Now mind you I am not on here to make enemies......this is just my opinion......its just what I see

If they sold her a throttle body clean and intake clean and didnt even perform the service thats FUCKED UP! Yes I'd be really pissed. But from what you are saying there was a driveability/check engine light on top of this? Was she charged a diag charge? Did they diag anything? Did they say the clean was gonna fix the problem? No dealer is gonna diag a car for free and they certainly wont pull and upper intake/tb apart without autorization. If your mothers vehicle was in my service bay, I would have recommended an hour diag to start, just to find out what the issue is and then see if that fixes her driveability issue. If the intake and throttle body were infact filthy which they often are, I would recommend a clean. Its such an easy service theres no reason they shouldnt have done it if they sold it to her. THe dealers I've worked at the service is normally 89.99, not 200 bucks. So they banged her out pretty good.

**310stanger** · 01-03-2009, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by TransAm11973

its not that all mechanics are bad, thats not what is being said, i mean I am a mechanic (for railcars) but still........its that dealerships are a business just like anyplace else and are out to make money. The problem is that there is a high percentage of people that are taken advantage of due to their lack of car knowlege....... My grandfather was a master mechanic who owned his own business, he never would have dreamed of doing some of this BS things I have seen and heard of stealerships doing. Its a matter of mindset and the setting of the company. In my mothers case they charged her 200+ extra dollars for something that they didnt do. It was also a repair that she wouldnt be able to see to justify that it was done. It took me time of taking apart the intake, TB, sensors to find the problem.......Now the TB and sensors were dirty as hell, and did need to be cleaned etc.....but it was not performed by the dealership and they charged for it....I always find out that she will take her car in for a oil change, and come out with a bill for like 600+ dollars b/c the dealership said she needed it.....I will get a copy from her of the work report and its unbelievable some of the things they said she needed and what they charged to do it.....there is a point of where doing what NEEDS to be done on the car stops and just a list of extra senseless bullshit starts.........Now mind you I am not on here to make enemies......this is just my opinion......its just what I see

I didn't mean to sound like a dick. But I get defensive about this stuff because people love to slam dealer techs and they aren't all bad. People act like dealer techs have no training at all which is soooo untrue. I mean as a tech on railcars, how often do people bag on your profession? If they did, would it tick you off?

It aint a free lunch out their in the service bay

**Crimson Sin** · 01-03-2009, 02:38 PM

Depends on the style of the TPMS monitor, some are instant on and are only triggered when the pressure drops below a preset measure.. say 28 psi..That style has NO idea if the tire is over inflated... You could have 60 psi and that TPMS won't know the difference as long as it's over the preset warning level.

Others are constant feed and continuously send pressure readings to the onboard monitor. That style will have a pressure readout on the dash or cluster.

Over pressuring a tire for long times can "high center' a tire, causing the center to wear out faster then the edges. But it would have to be a substantial amount... Say 5-10 pounds for a few thousand miles etc. One pound over is not much to worry about, nor is one pound low. I see people come in all the time with 19 ish pounds in one or two tires and bitch how their tires are wearing ... <sigh>... HELLO.. you need to maintain shit.. Amazes me how people think entropy doesn't exist..

**Crimson Sin** · 01-03-2009, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

Thats basically my point, I just got a lil ticked earlier.

Yes there are a lot of dishonest techs/service managers out there, and they ruin it for the honest techs that are trying to make a good living doing the right thing. They hurt me as much as they hurt you because not only do they piss the customer off and drive them out of dealerships but when i've had to work with these guys, I've often got stuck with their comebacks. Part of the problem is that the dealers wanna pay as low a rate as they can and this often means they hire a lot of losers because no good technician wants to work for free. Its really the dealers and not the dealer techs that are greedy most of the time guys.

I hear ya man...
I hear ya.