trans am vs. any srt models

**Kaotic_ws6** · 10-25-2009, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by 98snowt/a

i was wondering about this also because a friend of mine has a brother with an r/t charger and he wants to race me at the park for a quarter of a mile strip. Will it be a close race or will i win, if so how bad will i beat him?

mods on both cars? autos.. manuals? both stock will be drivers race with you winning by a car or so

**egod** · 10-25-2009, 06:58 PM

You'll beat him good but they're talking about the srt with the 6.1 not the rt with the 5.7

**justinmc978** · 10-25-2009, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Kaotic_ws6

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**98snowt/a** · 10-25-2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Kaotic_ws6

mods on both cars? autos.. manuals? both stock will be drivers race with you winning by a car or so

both stock and both auto, well mines mainly stock has a mti lid , i think im gonna fill the take half way with 93octane just for kicks too

**yanoZ28** · 10-25-2009, 07:28 PM

98 snow t/a, if its just the r/t 5.7L, you should be good for 2-3 car lengths. However if its the 6.1, hold on tight bc hes gonna give you a hell of a run. I recommend 93octane alwayz for U.

**Kaotic_ws6** · 10-25-2009, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by 98snowt/a

both stock and both auto, well mines mainly stock has a mti lid , i think im gonna fill the take half way with 93octane just for kicks too

you should be fine then. good luck on the race

**00z28bubba** · 10-25-2009, 10:11 PM

equal drivers means the r/t chargers/challengers lose to ls1 4th gens. srt8 models are too close to call.

**tatertot91** · 10-25-2009, 10:19 PM

I raced an SRT-4, he was pretty modded (dont know what exactly, but you could tell). I won by a little
pretty close from 30-about 100 but i was out in front
i think he wished his turbo would spool up faster because every time he shifted i gained a little

**karpetcm** · 10-25-2009, 10:37 PM

With the challenger it really depends what speeds your going up to and driver if both cars have the same mods or both stock. The higher speeds i think the LS1 will pull ahead but going from 0-110mph its gonna be very close. Ive raced several cars were the race is neck and neck and after 100mph its pretty much a different race. So who really knows till it happens. As many of those cars ive seen around ive yet to run into one, must admit they look good though.

**Kaotic_ws6** · 10-25-2009, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by karpetcm

With the challenger it really depends what speeds your going up to and driver if both cars have the same mods or both stock. The higher speeds i think the LS1 will pull ahead but going from 0-110mph its gonna be very close. Ive raced several cars were the race is neck and neck and after 100mph its pretty much a different race. So who really knows till it happens. As many of those cars ive seen around ive yet to run into one, must admit they look good though.

thats because hardly anything Espcially those cars cant perform on top end like f bodys do because of our aero. except vettes of course

**Superluminal** · 10-25-2009, 11:18 PM

Guide for the stockish to bolt-ons F-body:

SRT-4: Run these FWD guys from a dig, and you'll win every time. Refuse the roll request.... some are very fast with the right turbo setup.

SRT-8 CHARGER: These things are boats, but have a good amount of horsepower. It should be a drivers race with a slight advantage to the F-body. They respond well to bolt-ons... beware.

SRT-8 CHALLENGER: Same as the Charger. They are a bit heavy, but have a decent amount of power. Again, should be a drivers race. They also respond well to bolt ons.... beware.

SRT-10 RAM: These aren't to difficult to beat in stock form. If you can drive your F-body, you shouldn't have a problem. They're effectiveness drops on the top end due to poor aerodynamics and weight.

SRT-10 VIPER: Bring at least a heads/cam setup or don't even try. If you're car isn't trapping in the solid 120mpg range, you don't stand a chance.

BTW, all these cars are gay....

**NavyTATwo** · 10-26-2009, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Guide for the stockish to bolt-ons F-body:

SRT-8 CHARGER: These things are boats, but have a good amount of horsepower. It should be a drivers race with a slight advantage to the F-body. They respond well to bolt-ons... beware.

Ran one of these in the GTO, no contest. I had a couple of guys in a WRX give me a thumbs up at the next light after I smoked the Charger, its driver wouldn't even look at me.

SRT-10 RAM: These aren't to difficult to beat in stock form. If you can drive your F-body, you shouldn't have a problem. They're effectiveness drops on the top end due to poor aerodynamics and weight.

Took one of these in the WS-6. The driver was pretty cool, asked if the T/A was modded at the next light but all it has at this time is a Borla exhaust.

BTW, all these cars are gay....

Laughed out loud when I saw that.

Scott

**karpetcm** · 10-26-2009, 06:53 AM

Kaotic ws6, thats very true aero is a huge factor at higher speeds.

**Zinergy** · 10-26-2009, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by 98snowt/a

i was wondering about this also because a friend of mine has a brother with an r/t charger and he wants to race me at the park for a quarter of a mile strip. Will it be a close race or will i win, if so how bad will i beat him?

lol I beat my uncles auto charger r/t from a dig in my 05 automatic legacy gt when it was stock, 250hp/250trq. By like half a car but still i won.

**justinmc978** · 10-26-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Guide for the stockish to bolt-ons F-body:

SRT-4: Run these FWD guys from a dig, and you'll win every time. Refuse the roll request.... some are very fast with the right turbo setup.

SRT-8 CHARGER: These things are boats, but have a good amount of horsepower. It should be a drivers race with a slight advantage to the F-body. They respond well to bolt-ons... beware.

SRT-8 CHALLENGER: Same as the Charger. They are a bit heavy, but have a decent amount of power. Again, should be a drivers race. They also respond well to bolt ons.... beware.

SRT-10 RAM: These aren't to difficult to beat in stock form. If you can drive your F-body, you shouldn't have a problem. They're effectiveness drops on the top end due to poor aerodynamics and weight.

SRT-10 VIPER: Bring at least a heads/cam setup or don't even try. If you're car isn't trapping in the solid 120mpg range, you don't stand a chance.

BTW, all these cars are gay....

dude srt challengers are much faster, no way a stock f-body will take one remember these are very similer to the new camaros performance, dont think a stock f-body could dream of taking one of those

my first 'race' ever was a srt neon vs my 3.4l camaro he won but not by anymore than a couple lengths was from 50 on a highway haha pathetic

**Zinergy** · 10-26-2009, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by justinmc978

dude srt challengers are much faster, no way a stock f-body will take one read the second post

:thumbsup:

Hope your kidding, a stock srt-8 charger or challenger is a 13.2-13.5 car @ 108-110mph, i was running 12.8s @ 111mph with 3 bolt ons and a tune on street tires. I will say that most of the time a stock f-body will lose to a stock srt-8 car but not by that much. A few bolt ons will put you in the lead. Oh and just so you know stock my 2000 T/A went a 13.3 @ 107mph, so still pretty close to the times put down by the srt-8 cars.

You think too highly of the srt-8 cars if you think you need a cammed ls1 to beat them, there are a shit ton of 11 second ls1 cars with cam and bolt ons only. No way in a hell a stock srt-8 car is gonna run 11s

Im also confused as to why yo uthink the srt-8 challenger is faster than the charger, they weigh damn near the same and have the same powertrain.

**Superluminal** · 10-26-2009, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by justinmc978

dude srt challengers are much faster, no way a stock f-body will take one remember these are very similer to the new camaros performance, dont think a stock f-body could dream of taking one of those

Stock SRT-8 Challengers run in the mid to low 13s, on average, with a 105-108mph trap speed. You're telling me an F-body in stock form, with some bolt ons, couldn't match that?

My guide was for stock to bolt ons Fbodies.... read again.

**big hammer** · 10-26-2009, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by justinmc978

dude srt challengers are much faster, no way a stock f-body will take one remember these are very similer to the new camaros performance, dont think a stock f-body could dream of taking one of those

my first 'race' ever was a srt neon vs my 3.4l camaro he won but not by anymore than a couple lengths was from 50 on a highway haha pathetic

new camaros are hardly any faster than a stock ls1... i destroyed a new camaro with hardly any bolt ons. their record times are basically the same too.

**big hammer** · 10-26-2009, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Stock SRT-8 Challengers run in the mid to low 13s, on average, with a 105-108mph trap speed. You're telling me an F-body in stock form, with some bolt ons, couldn't match that?

My guide was for stock to bolt ons Fbodies.... read again.

word-- and those times are basically what f-bodies run stock-- unless they're clapped out. just because it's new and alot more power doesn't make it faster. weight kills the challenger and new camaro.

**Zinergy** · 10-26-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

word-- and those times are basically what f-bodies run stock-- unless they're clapped out. just because it's new and alot more power doesn't make it faster. weight kills the challenger and new camaro.

The new camaro should take a challenger aswell

both 425hp but the charger and 300c weighs 4300lbs and the challenger is just under 4200lbs, the camaro is the lightest at 3800lbs. By 400-500lbs