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    How good r the patriot stage 2 ls6 heads? I no a guy that is selling a set for 700 has 8000 miles on them is it a good deal? The heads have 2.02 intake valves an 1.57 exhaust I think, 59cc. I have an ms3 cam would these heads work good with it?

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    I ran them before but sold them after about 1500 miles. They wasn't anything wrong with them and Patriot really stood behind them and helped me out when they didnt even have to. There are better heads out there but for the price, I have no complaints. I made 415 rwhp with them and a 224/224 cam.

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    [QUOTE=2000;2474567]I ran them before but sold them after about 1500 miles. They wasn't anything wrong with them and Patriot really stood behind them and helped me out when they didnt even have to. There are better heads out there but for the price, I have no complaints. I made 415 rwhp with them and a 224/224 cam.[/QUOT

    Was that on an A4 car or M6? What other heads would u recommend don't want to spend 3k on them right now lol

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    im running the same heads you are asking about. i have had no issues with these heads, however im running a 224 cam. for $700 for lightly used heads, you won't beat it. toss on a FAST combo with these heads and the results will be worth it. the Ls6 intake with that size cam will be the choke point.

    in order to know if your MS3 will work, first, call Patriot and ask them. they will know better than us. second, you could do a clay test to make sure you have the proper piston to valve clearance.

    the numbers in my sig are where i'm currently sitting at with the patriot heads, 224 cam and supporting bolt-ons. my car is an M6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    im running the same heads you are asking about. i have had no issues with these heads, however im running a 224 cam. for $700 for lightly used heads, you won't beat it. toss on a FAST combo with these heads and the results will be worth it. the Ls6 intake with that size cam will be the choke point.

    in order to know if your MS3 will work, first, call Patriot and ask them. they will know better than us. second, you could do a clay test to make sure you have the proper piston to valve clearance.

    the numbers in my sig are where i'm currently sitting at with the patriot heads, 224 cam and supporting bolt-ons. my car is an M6.
    Ok thanks man for the info, I was going to call them after I got off work today an ask, I hope the valves will have clearances lol didn't really think about that lol guess I should have lol..... The guy that had these heads had the torquer 2 cam said it worked good

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    Tv2 is a smaller cam than an Ms3...

    if the Ms3 doesn't clear (i believe it will), and you want to run this H/C combo, then you will have to fly-cut the pistons for proper clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    Tv2 is a smaller cam than an Ms3...

    if the Ms3 doesn't clear (i believe it will), and you want to run this H/C combo, then you will have to fly-cut the pistons for proper clearance.
    I believe it will to, I no its a smaller cc chamber but the heads are not milled or anything so it should be stock height.. I think but ill call just to be sure. I'm going to ask about the ms4 to cuz I was thinking of doing another cam swap here soon to

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02_slp_ss View Post
    I believe it will to, I no its a smaller cc chamber but the heads are not milled or anything so it should be stock height.. I think but ill call just to be sure. I'm going to ask about the ms4 to cuz I was thinking of doing another cam swap here soon to
    i think that if you put a ms4 in it with any type of after market heads you will have to fly cut the pistons

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    im running the same heads you are asking about. i have had no issues with these heads, however im running a 224 cam. for $700 for lightly used heads, you won't beat it. toss on a FAST combo with these heads and the results will be worth it. the Ls6 intake with that size cam will be the choke point.

    in order to know if your MS3 will work, first, call Patriot and ask them. they will know better than us. second, you could do a clay test to make sure you have the proper piston to valve clearance.

    the numbers in my sig are where i'm currently sitting at with the patriot heads, 224 cam and supporting bolt-ons. my car is an M6.
    please tell more about this clay test

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    Quote Originally Posted by WICKEDLS1 View Post
    please tell more about this clay test
    this explains it very well...

    http://www.cdxglobal.com/content/sam...ckclear_WS.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    thanks man thats what i thought you ment by it but i have to keep this in mind when i start to internally mod my motor

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    I hope I don't have to but o well this is what u get for want to go fast! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02_slp_ss View Post
    I hope I don't have to but o well this is what u get for want to go fast! Lol
    i know what you mean man

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