Obama to regulate?

**clg82** · 05-19-2009, 10:13 AM

Well if you haven't heard, Obama wants to regulate the emissions on cars, mpg, and some other things. What does that mean for the newer sports cars? Camaro? .......any thoughts?

**Sarge** · 05-19-2009, 10:22 AM

BIG GOVERNMENT will make all the decisions for you. You just pay and pay and we'll take it from here. It is what the liberals do man. As for your question......think turbo 4 bangers.

**Y2KSS1363** · 05-19-2009, 10:23 AM

You've got about 4 years to get your new Camaro SS.

**rbob93** · 05-19-2009, 10:51 AM

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113907

**Sarge** · 05-19-2009, 10:52 AM

Ugh Oh. The double post Po Po's are here.

**clg82** · 05-19-2009, 11:55 AM

sorry i'm such an idiot

**bandit95** · 05-19-2009, 07:31 PM

turbo 4's or more advanced 6 bangers if we're lucky. and enjoy the camaro while it (and GM) last. it'll probably be gone just as quick as the new GTO was. maybe it'll last 5 or 6 years if GM makes enough profit to build themselves the next big thing in hybrid technology.

**INMY01TA** · 05-19-2009, 09:09 PM

I thought this was gonna be a much broader thread about Obama regulating everything..

**0rion** · 05-19-2009, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by INMY01TA

I thought this was gonna be a much broader thread about Obama regulating everything..

Obama called me tonight and told me to go upstairs and turn the light off my son left on.....bastards.

**clg82** · 05-20-2009, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by bandit95

turbo 4's or more advanced 6 bangers if we're lucky. and enjoy the camaro while it (and GM) last. it'll probably be gone just as quick as the new GTO was. maybe it'll last 5 or 6 years if GM makes enough profit to build themselves the next big thing in hybrid technology.

the new GTO didn't stand a chance anyways.......there ugly

**GTP231** · 05-20-2009, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by 0rion

Obama called me tonight and told me to go upstairs and turn the light off my son left on.....bastards.

I just got an email from him about the farts I just had

**0rion** · 05-20-2009, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by clg82

the new GTO didn't stand a chance anyways.......there ugly

you're on crack. The GTO is a nice looking car. They have a classy look to them.

**clg82** · 05-20-2009, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by 0rion

you're on crack. The GTO is a nice looking car. They have a classy look to them.

Classy but not the "modern muscle car" look. It's still a 4 door mommie grocery getter.......imo.......same with the g8........was the gto before the last version in the old days ever a four door car?

**allbaugh_04** · 05-20-2009, 06:09 AM

Isn't this new proposal a 35.5 mpg avg. of the companies lineup. I don't think we'd have to worry too much. If the volt ever hits the road, that would really bump up the average. The Z28 could get 15 mpg, but if the rest of gm's line up gets 40mpg, it'd average out ok.

Besides if they can't meet the standard, they can probably still make the cars, but guess who will end up paying the fee. Oh that'd be us again, another form of taxation, thank you very much.

Thank the government, there are too many fuckin forms of taxation, it's ridiculous. I wonder how many people actually know we are taxed on gasoline? Then paying for taxes on a used vehicle...ok i'll stop now

**0rion** · 05-20-2009, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by clg82

Classy but not the "modern muscle car" look. It's still a 4 door mommie grocery getter.......imo.......same with the g8........was the gto before the last version in the old days ever a four door car?

you sure you even know what a GTO is???

None of then newer ones were 4 door. 2 door coupes only. The original GTO was a Tempest with a big motor. The tempest was a family car....not a muscle car. It wasn't a muscle car until GM took a family car and stuffed a big v8 in it. Sound familiar?? Kinda sounds like the new GTO doesn't it?

**clg82** · 05-20-2009, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by 0rion

you sure you even know what a GTO is???

None of then newer ones were 4 door. 2 door coupes only. The original GTO was a Tempest with a big motor. The tempest was a family car....not a muscle car. It wasn't a muscle car until GM took a family car and stuffed a big v8 in it. Sound familiar?? Kinda sounds like the new GTO doesn't it?

I don't know what I'm talking about it's still early sheesh...........

**gwballin** · 05-20-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by 0rion

you sure you even know what a GTO is???

None of then newer ones were 4 door. 2 door coupes only. The original GTO was a Tempest with a big motor. The tempest was a family car....not a muscle car. It wasn't a muscle car until GM took a family car and stuffed a big v8 in it. Sound familiar?? Kinda sounds like the new GTO doesn't it?

**ibanez7** · 05-20-2009, 07:59 AM

just another way that get democrats and obama closer to a socialist government and blinded dictatorship. Control the companies and pass the costs to the consumers, while claiming its better for the people and the planet.

**fccs** · 05-20-2009, 09:27 AM

Repost galore and all the companies knew this would happen sooner or later and DID NOTHING about trying to get better mpg out of cars. If a z06 can get 25mpg out of a 500+hp engine, im pretty sure they could try and make it so cars with less power could get double that, it isn't rocket science here... And shouldn't this be in the political forum?

**0rion** · 05-20-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by fccs

Repost galore and all the companies knew this would happen sooner or later and DID NOTHING about trying to get better mpg out of cars. If a z06 can get 25mpg out of a 500+hp engine, im pretty sure they could try and make it so cars with less power could get double that, it isn't rocket science here... And shouldn't this be in the political forum?

it is rocket science to a degree. HP is not the only factor in mpg necessarily. Drag coefficients and weight play just as much as power into the equation. Are you willing to pay $70k for a 110HP 2 seater that gets 60mpg or would you pay that $70k for a z06 that gets 25mpg? We can't lay all the blame on the auto makers. They weren't the people buying the 2 ton SUV tanks the last 10-15 years.....the public demanded it so they supplied it. How many supersize imported SUV's are out there? Not many really yet I see tons of those things on the roads. The people wanted them so the big 3 made them. Then when the gas prices went up it was the big 3's fault for building them all of the sudden. It's like the parent of a fat kid that blames the candy makers.