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08-02-2010, 11:03 AM #81
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08-02-2010, 12:14 PM #82
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Black/Screaming Yellow- 99 S/C TA WS6 & 04 Cobra
Mr Luos is pushing well North of 500 to the wheels but he also has a 402 ci fully built motor. His set-up seems very reliable and daily driveable but it is larger cubic inch LSX totally different animal than what we are talking about here in the FI section. OP wants info about how to get a Procharged DD up and running very reliable.
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08-02-2010, 01:10 PM #83
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08-02-2010, 01:11 PM #84
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08-02-2010, 02:20 PM #85
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Silver/Black- 00' z28-R.I.P 00' WS6 M6
I never said anything about it being done on a ls1/stock cubes, go back and read, all I said was is that people have reached that kind of power N/A. I simply said there are other ways of achieving that much power w/o F/I.
Also I brought up the terminator for that exact reason(it's forged from the factory). It is built for boost from the factory, thus it would be less expensive to achieve 500hp in a termy IF your going to go about doing it with boost, in that aspect they are comparable.
Edit: I just saw your age, how is it that you can go off calling me a kid when you only 4yrs older that me? Does the fact that i'm 19 somehow impair my ability to comprehend information and make a rational argument?Last edited by LeadFarmer; 08-02-2010 at 02:27 PM.
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08-02-2010, 04:31 PM #86
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blacker than wesleysnipes- 98' trans am
here
just one example of 500rwhp out of a 346 n/a ..not the norm and of course the dyno could read happy..but Patrick G has hit 509rwhp with a 346 also ..it is possible..but street-ability and such will always be questionable
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08-02-2010, 05:20 PM #87
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Black/Screaming Yellow- 99 S/C TA WS6 & 04 Cobra
Yeah that car is a one in a 500,000 type set-up. Very good numbers but not the norm for a H/C/I LS1 engine. That just goes to show you what tuning will do for you. If you do your homework and either gain the knowledge to tune yourself or use a very reputable tuner you can net decent results. So many people buy cams and heads that are not paired for each other as well as they could be. Same goes with the Procharged LS1's. There have been several people that went with a simple LS6 cam from a 2002-04 ZO-6 and factory LS1 heads with some new springs and pushrods that made more power than some of the custom boost cams and big name heads. Cartek had a pair of 500 rwhp H/C/I cars but I saw how streetable some were... Not very! Usually anything north of 450rwhp for H/C/I is commendable and has netted lotsa vehicles some good times with gears and weight reduction. The beauty of a boosted car is you are always just a pulley/head unit swap and tune away from more power! Try and squeeze more out of an H/C/I car is a lot harder and usually involves N2O.
Either way you go H/C/I, Forced Induction, N2O, or bigger cubes. You always have the same variables to deal with. Durability, driveability and the enjoyment factor. To each his own but there are just some options that are more suited for a daily vehicle.Last edited by Packy; 08-02-2010 at 05:25 PM.
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08-02-2010, 05:39 PM #88
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08-02-2010, 07:08 PM #89
Well your certainly not an adult at 19, you can't buy booze along with a few other things. I'm not judging any one. Iv been coming onto this site since 2004 and joined in 2006 after I got my car. I see you just joined this year so u have a lot to learn. As far as cobras go, if I had the choice of getting either an ls1 or cobra for free I would go with the cobra. If I had to pay for a car and mod it I would go with the ls1.
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08-02-2010, 08:23 PM #90
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08-03-2010, 04:10 AM #91
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Black/Screaming Yellow- 99 S/C TA WS6 & 04 Cobra
1999 Trans Am WS6 Black - Forged 346, P1SC (8psi), TH-400, and 12 bolt(3.73's)
10.29@129 w/1.60 sixty foot
2004 Screaming Yellow Mustang Cobra - Whipple 2.3, Exhaust, & CCW's...My DD
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08-03-2010, 04:56 AM #92
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08-03-2010, 08:39 AM #93
It must have here... Terminators (03-04 Cobras) are worth about $15k with 50-70k miles on them. F-bodies are worth about $8-10k in the same mileage range. Since you are chasing the budget, you can't act like you are just forgetting the initial investment.
One of my closest friends is selling his 99 Z28 with leather (immaculate interior) and 59K miles on the car and is currently asking $8200.
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08-03-2010, 09:50 AM #94
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08-03-2010, 10:17 AM #95
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08-03-2010, 12:02 PM #96
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Silver/Black- 00' z28-R.I.P 00' WS6 M6
value of car + cost of boost.
BUT, 15-20k on just mods wouldn't be too far-fetched. F/I kit+ forged internals+ possibly cam/heads + tranny supporting mods + 12bolt/9in + exhaust + suspension + tires & tune. Also if your not gonna do the work yourself you also have to calculate install costs.
So it's certainly possible to get to 15-20k in just mods. It isn't exactly a weekend project.
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08-03-2010, 12:02 PM #97
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Black/Screaming Yellow- 99 S/C TA WS6 & 04 Cobra
My LS1 P1-SC kit was $3500 with injectors, fuel pump and boost gauge. I installed it myself and was good for 500 rwhp with equal torque with the initial 5 psi set-up. My car cost me 21k in 2001.
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08-03-2010, 12:12 PM #98
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blacker than wesleysnipes- 98' trans am
you think the terminator can handle 700-800rwhp stock..there is work to be done..granted not too much on the motor side..but the trans and their rear IRS needs to be worked over...not to mention to make those big numbers..most jump to a KB ..so there is money in that. neither car is that cheap to make those high numbers...shit no car is cheap that makes 500-800rwhp
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08-03-2010, 12:12 PM #99
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Black/Screaming Yellow- 99 S/C TA WS6 & 04 Cobra
I like the styling of both cars but for drag racing I prefer the TA. Rollracing and typical street jackassing around I prefer the Cobra. Both are nice cars but you are going to pay the same price either way. Leadfarmer if you missed it on tech a guy sold a Camaro (busted motor) complete with a Vortech kit and all the other bolt-ons for 6k. There are deals out there to be had! If you look on tech you can find SC'd and Turboed LSX F-bods for anywhere from 10k-20K that are turn key. most have built motors, trans, and rear-ends already too!
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08-03-2010, 12:49 PM #100
Werd, the IRS being the biggest problem in those cobras. Once you get past the pulley stage and start porting the blower, you will need bigger injectors, boost-a-pump, heat exchanger etc... to make use of that 500+hp safely. You will also need some suspension parts to plant that power to the pavement. People often think its cheaper to go FI with the cobra because they already come with all the goodies.
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