Buying headers is tough, pls help.

**mghawk57** · 02-27-2008, 03:34 AM

Pacesetter for my Procharger set up worked great - Ceramic coating looks great.Fit was the best.Go for it with Pacesetters.

**senicalj4579** · 02-27-2008, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by xzaero0

That could be part of the problem. But they looked so cute laying next to my ARH. I only had a predator tune... I know its not that good but man those are terrible headers. Prolly never gonna buy anthing from Edelbrock again tho. I really woudnt doubt the manifolds being almost if not as good tho. Just used o2 sims on my dual with no cats. Electric WP, SLP underdrive pulley, debaffled air lid, K&N, Predator tune LM2s dual exhaust = 281/283 only thing holding it back was the shorties.

If your 2000 car has the same manifolds as a 01-02 car then yes,your manifolds are almost or if not just as good. It not worth it to buy shorties for a 01-02 car because the manifolds from those years are very good and a HUGE upgrade from a 98-99 car. Not sure what you have on your 2000 though

**Speed Psychosis** · 03-01-2008, 05:39 AM

I'd go with obx. I have never heard any complaints about them, for this car and my mazda mx6 v6. If you go to mx6.com, you would see that almost everyone with headers got autochrome/ebay headers and had no complaints. use the money you save on those on a nice dual exhaust like bassani. thats what I'd do, if i had the money.

**Eagle** · 03-02-2008, 09:41 AM

I ended up buying a used Kooks setup with ORY. Started work on the car yesterday removing the old parts:

All the old parts:

All covered up for the night, waiting for the new parts to arrive:

Thx for everyone's input on this.

I would not buy OBX headers for any performance application, because the primaries measure only 1.5" I.D., the welds inside the collector and ORY are terrible meaning flow will be adversely effected... Just my $.02!

Lessons learned: You gotta pay to play. Thankfully it only cost me $50 shipping charges to learn this lesson... AGAIN.

-Eagle

**Richy_Rich67** · 03-02-2008, 11:01 AM

You know the SLP headers are an issue with the ground clearence part but as for the power gains I really think you cant go wrong. My friend put them on his 99 camaro SS and gettting them to fit was not an issue at all. SLP in my opinion ar hands down going to give you the highest or next to hp. gains!

**Richy_Rich67** · 03-02-2008, 11:04 AM

Sorry didn't click to the last page untill I posted this

**Y2KPewterSS** · 03-02-2008, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Eagle

Nice jackstands

**grouch0jr** · 03-02-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS

Nice jackstands

haha, just about the only thing miller light is good for.

**HMERacing** · 03-02-2008, 07:01 PM

SLP tuned headers have 1.75 primaries (just measured them) The only place they choke
down is the collector on the y is 2.5

**JoshieDoom** · 03-02-2008, 09:32 PM

Which brand would be best on clearance>? I drive a lot of gravel, hilly roads btw.

**Eagle** · 03-03-2008, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS

Nice jackstands

Thx!

Needed something to show how high I had it in the air I guess... It was either the Miller or a case of Diet Coke!

If anyone has a set of SLP LTs off their car, I'd love to know what the I.D. (inside diameter) of their primaries measure out to... Everyone that I found who actually installed the SLPs had terrible stuff to say about them, like pretty much anything SLP... MAF... bellows... LTs... I DO have a SLP car cover tho, THAT I like.

-Eagle

**Eagle** · 03-03-2008, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by HMERacing

SLP tuned headers have 1.75 primaries (just measured them) The only place they choke
down is the collector on the y is 2.5

Is that I.D. or O.D. ?

-Eagle

**suede** · 03-09-2008, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by LS2Tuner

Ok Chi Town we both are on the same view on a few things so here is my advice.
You and I both know those jets are going to be up sized sooner or later. You need a good Larger tube header!! Remember your adding more TQ than HP so that loss of bottom end TQ ain't SHIT!! You are adding liquid oxygen basically and it needs to get out.
So that said BUY quality race header.
First choice due to your budget would have to be Kooks. Stepped 1 3/4"-1 7/8" primary's. $1138.90

Nice wideband set-up and is pretty user friendly/ I have these on 2 of my cars if that tells you anything Eagle.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Innov...spagenameZWDVW

Kooks ftw i love mine and didnt have a prob putting them on...no issues of problems to date..

**michaelinchains** · 03-09-2008, 05:58 PM

i have a set of jet-hot coated pacesetter lts & ory in my garage

just waiting on spring for the install

**Joels1** · 03-09-2008, 07:21 PM

Ordered headers last week went with ARH with catted y-pipe,plus have slp exhaust.I`ll post how the install goes.

**Eagle** · 03-09-2008, 08:10 PM

FYI for those that have lots of bandwidth to burn:

Here's how it sounded BEFORE the Kooks and the ORY

And HERE'S how it sounds AFTER

Don't mind the hysterical laughing of my buddy in the background. He's a Ford guy and was just happy to hear a real car rev up! LOL

**Johns00Z28** · 03-10-2008, 04:02 AM

Can we get a behind the car clip?

**senicalj4579** · 03-10-2008, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Eagle

FYI for those that have lots of bandwidth to burn:

Here's how it sounded BEFORE the Kooks and the ORY

And HERE'S how it sounds AFTER

Don't mind the hysterical laughing of my buddy in the background. He's a Ford guy and was just happy to hear a real car rev up! LOL

Sweet! Did you ever get the measurments? If so what were they compaired to spec?

**Eagle** · 03-10-2008, 09:05 AM

The Kooks measured true! Their primary pipe I.D. measured 1 3/4" !!!

**LS2Tuner** · 03-10-2008, 10:04 AM

As I had said before ALL quality headers give you a ID measurement NOT a OD like the cheap shit trying to make them self's look better. Same with many exhaust shops! You need to ask them before you spend money is your pipe measurements ID or OD.