Performance wise, test proven best header for LS1?

**Speedy_Gonzales** · 11-15-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tyler_LS1

Ive got the American Racing Headers and i couldn't be more happy.

The Quality, Fitment and Looks are unbeatable IMO.
Price is a little steep but i got a killer deal on mine,

I would stick with what basballny2 said, you want stainless steel and you want the tuned length.

how much $$$ for headers install ?

**Tyler_LS1** · 11-15-2007, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by SpeedAddict38

how much $$$ for headers install ?

Install was about $300 with plugs and wires done also

Install was done by KrazyKoncepts here locally, very good shop, quality install and people that really know there stuff!

They will be Dyno tuning it also, I will get some videos of that when the time comes.

**midi_2001** · 11-16-2007, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by basballny2

depends on what you want to do.....do u want to do true duals? if so the magnaflow becomes obsolete

Is there a bolt-on form of 'true duals' in stainless steel for my year and make? As of yet, I haven't seen any. Seems as though you have to vist a mod or exhaust shop and have them built onto your car; made of mild steel.

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 11-16-2007, 01:19 AM

I'll end up doing aluminumized steel when I go dual. Doesn't last like stainless, but is less than half the price and last longer than just steel.

**basballny2** · 11-16-2007, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by midi_2001

Is there a bolt-on form of 'true duals' in stainless steel for my year and make? As of yet, I haven't seen any. Seems as though you have to vist a mod or exhaust shop and have them built onto your car; made of mild steel.

if you go to a shop they can make them out of stainless steel and to my knowledge i dont believe they have a true dual system out there right now but there are talks of one coming out

**rc74racer** · 11-16-2007, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by midi_2001

I know it's a long shot but, does the Kooks header/ORY combo connect painlessly to the Magnaflow C/B, #16723?

My understanding is yes. I've done a lot of header research and I was going to go with QTPs until I read the horror stories about their crappy y pipes. I'm going KOOKs I hear their headers and y pipes fit flawlessly. It's worth the extra $$$ IMO.

**basballny2** · 11-16-2007, 10:49 AM

if money is the issue.....dont jump because u have enough now for headers....do it right the first time....it might take more time but wait until u have the money for stainless

**midi_2001** · 11-16-2007, 03:30 PM

Believe me...cash is far from the issue. Doing it right...the first time, is the issue. (Of course, dollar spent per HP is still another issue.) With other vehicles past, I've done the mild steel, the aluminized; the junk. Works great for a while and then you're throwing more cash at the cause, more labor; I've been there...done it...done with it. I've been away from the 'street performance' scene for quite some time. Four-wheel'n has been my passion now for several years. I've become bored with the dirt n mud (additionally, my new garage is only so high...lol). I now have this T/A and still want to do as much as I can on my own.

That prompts all of my inquires and all input is greatly appreciated.

With all of the input and all of the other POSTS I'm starting to lean toward Kooks.

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 11-16-2007, 08:44 PM

Kooks gets my vote. I just wish a shop in my area could bend stainless. That requires more expensive equipment to do and no one around here can do it.

**basballny2** · 11-16-2007, 10:46 PM

if money is no issue decide whether you want true duals or a y-pipe, to have custom true duals done it will run you a little bit but worth it in the long run, whatever you do go with stainless steel as stated before kooks or ARH are the top 2 and QTP isnt far behind.....and once i get the money, because money IS an issue for me haha im going with ARH true duals, and you might want to look into a nice set of subframes (just a side note) good luck with your choice though

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 11-16-2007, 10:54 PM

Do diamond SFC's get in the way of TD's? I've hear stuff both ways and want to know the real deal.

**drummer52910** · 11-17-2007, 08:47 AM

So what about pacesetters Ceramic coated headers? I woulnt expect them to compare well to a brand like QTP, being about half the price. Ive heard they fit good but do they hold up well over time?

**basballny2** · 11-17-2007, 11:00 AM

nope after about 2 years youll find yourself replacing them

**midi_2001** · 11-17-2007, 04:53 PM

Hmmm...ARH has a nice product as well.

**basballny2** · 11-17-2007, 10:50 PM

yes they do....as i posted before once i get the money im going with ARH true duals

**aeroengineer** · 11-18-2007, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by rc74racer

My understanding is yes. I've done a lot of header research and I was going to go with QTPs until I read the horror stories about their crappy y pipes. I'm going KOOKs I hear their headers and y pipes fit flawlessly. It's worth the extra $$$ IMO.

I was thinking about a set of QTP. What have you heard about their ORY pipes? Can I use another manufacturer's ORY on a set of QTP?

**rc74racer** · 11-18-2007, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by aeroengineer

I was thinking about a set of QTP. What have you heard about their ORY pipes? Can I use another manufacturer's ORY on a set of QTP?

Everything I've read said they fit like crap and are not worth the money. No you can not use another manufucturer's ORY. It's why I decided to go with kooks.

**aeroengineer** · 11-18-2007, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by rc74racer

Everything I've read said they fit like crap and are not worth the money. No you can not use another manufucturer's ORY. It's why I decided to go with kooks.

Thats a shame. I was headed towards the QTP until I heard that. Will definitely consider the Hooker SS model before I plop down the doe for Kooks. No doubt they are the best, but I have a hard time coming off 1200 for a set with ORY.

**basballny2** · 11-18-2007, 06:57 PM

well whatever you decide to go with .... get your headers tuned to get max hp/tq out of them

**firemedic0135** · 11-18-2007, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by midi_2001

Is there a bolt-on form of 'true duals' in stainless steel for my year and make? As of yet, I haven't seen any. Seems as though you have to vist a mod or exhaust shop and have them built onto your car; made of mild steel.

dont think they are stainless but here they are
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=196&catid=56