Holy cow new M5

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This thread is getting way off topic and I'm starting to loose interest.....Since the original post dealt with an LS-1 car vs an M5, I thought that is what the debate was about, not about how "superior" the M5 is supposed to be to the rest of the cars in it's class or the world or whatever other planet you are thinking.

But Ok.....Stock for stock in the same class.....maybe a strech in your eyes.....The CTS-V would be a domestic competor for $30,000 less. If you want to go outside the luxury class....the new Z06 would own the M5 in every catagory you could come up with. Ironically both cars are LS powered.

[jAgZ28]

In case no one noticed he is using the stats from the BMW page I have yet to see a car mag get near 4.5 0-60 it's been more like 4.8-5 from what I remember seeing in MT, C&D, and R&T with the 1/4 in the very low 13's I remember them being somewhat dissapointed considering the hp #'s.

[LS1What]

This thread is getting way off topic and I'm starting to loose interest.....Since the original post dealt with an LS-1 car vs an M5, I thought that is what the debate was about, not about how "superior" the M5 is supposed to be to the rest of the cars in it's class or the world or whatever other planet you are thinking.

But Ok.....Stock for stock in the same class.....maybe a strech in your eyes.....The CTS-V would be a domestic competor for $30,000 less. If you want to go outside the luxury class....the new Z06 would own the M5 in every catagory you could come up with. Ironically both cars are LS powered.

You're right it's about whether he beat a M5, and like I said, I don't believe he did, and he isn't providing a list of his mods to prove otherwise. I never said there wasn't any domestic luxury performance sedans that'll hold there own for less money. Just providing facts that in a M5 I still feel you get what you pay for. Even the new Z06 wouldn't totally walk all over the new M5's, beat it yes of cousre it will, though leave the 4 door 4100 lbs M5 in the dust like it's a stock '89 Civic verus a '99 T/A? Nope, it won't be that far behind...

In case no one noticed he is using the stats from the BMW page I have yet to see a car mag get near 4.5 0-60 it's been more like 4.8-5 from what I remember seeing in MT, C&D, and R&T with the 1/4 in the very low 13's I remember them being somewhat dissapointed considering the hp #'s.

I highly doubt BMW way overrated there M5's... I read in magazines pre-realease that they thought it'd be sub 4.5's in 0-60. I've read MT's M5 vs E55 road test, the M5 beat it in almost every category E55 is MT rated at 4.2's. I have yet to read complaints about insufficient accerlation, for myself. The race he stated was from a highway kick, and as I told him before horsepower numbers are gonna play a factor in that race not, dead stop accel numbers. That's how this whole 0-60 and 1/4 time shit got started.

[91Z28]

The M5s should be top end monsters since they make their 500hp by spinning to 10k RPMs. Just like the last M3s made very little torque but spun the little inline 6 over 8k. The M5 uses a 7 speed SMG transmission too, so it should have an easy time staying in that powerband.

[woodymaro]

You ever ridden in an M5, beat the balls outta most all domestics in all expects, handling, ride comfort, powertrain, and in some cases performance, you name it it'll probably be superior.

ok here are two domestics in the same price range and horsepower rating, 06 Z06 and Viper....
those two cars would absolutley rape that M5. Besides you drive a mustang.. you probably have this same discussion on your mustang forum about how you slowly reeled in a geo metro at 45mph.

[91Z28]

Yeah that was a stupid statement, an M5 isn't going to beat a Z06 in anything except roominess.

[LS1What]

ok here are two domestics in the same price range and horsepower rating, 06 Z06 and Viper....
those two cars would absolutley rape that M5. Besides you drive a mustang.. you probably have this same discussion on your mustang forum about how you slowly reeled in a geo metro at 45mph.

Yeah that was a stupid statement, an M5 isn't going to beat a Z06 in anything except roominess.

Where did I ever say it would beat a new Z06? I know new Z06's are monsters, they trap crazy speeds in the quarter, off the showroom floor. Just stock for stock it wouldn't totally "rape" the '05 M5. That's all I was saying... Yeah, of cousre I race Metro's, a GM, is a GM, is a GM, right? :rollseyes:

[woodymaro]

Just stock for stock it wouldn't totally "rape" the '05 M5.

I guess 20 car lengths IS a close race for a mustang.

[S38]

Car and Driver numbers:

M5 0-60 4.2 0-100 9.4 0-150 20.7 1/4mile 12.5@118

He may still have been breaking it in. They limit revs to 5500 until the 1200 mile oil change and check up. Actually, in high revving lower torque cars they are going to be more difficult to beat from a roll where they can put the car right in its sweet spot with a couple of pulls of the paddle. If gearing and rpm didn't result in performance how do you get a 4100lb car to run the 1/4 at 12.5 at 118mph? I would bet broken in cars will see low 12's and break 120mph.

[Mike's02Z28M6]

Nice kill!

I ran a brand new M5 a couple weeks ago from a dig to 90 mph and beat him by a solid car length+. He decided to rice out and keep in it heading towards a red light which he slid half way through while making a right turn and almost hit the median on the other side of the road. He must have been pissed

[LS1What]

Nice kill!

I ran a brand new M5 a couple weeks ago from a dig to 90 mph and beat him by a solid car length+. He decided to rice out and keep in it heading towards a red light which he slid half way through while making a right turn and almost hit the median on the other side of the road. He must have been pissed

Well I doubt it, if those are current numbers in your sig... Though hey whatever.

[LS1 SEAN]

ok here are two domestics in the same price range and horsepower rating, 06 Z06 and Viper....
those two cars would absolutley rape that M5. Besides you drive a mustang.. you probably have this same discussion on your mustang forum about how you slowly reeled in a geo metro at 45mph.

Viper=** starting at $85,745
Corvette=$65,000
20k isnt exactly close in my book sorry...

[LS1 SEAN]

your car=333 RWHP 345 RWTQ
M5=500hp/383tq
first off you beat it? and second off by more than a car length?

[LS1What]

Viper=** starting at $85,745
Corvette=$65,000
20k isnt exactly close in my book sorry...

Nor again, would either "absolutley rape that M5" as he stated....

[91Z28]

I think so. Eventually someone will go 10.9 in a stock Z06 and someone will go 11.8 in a stock M5, 9 car lengths is a raping to me.

[LS1What]

I think so. Eventually someone will go 10.9 in a stock Z06 and someone will go 11.8 in a stock M5, 9 car lengths is a raping to me.

For what classes the two cars are in, I don't think it's a raping. Each to there own.

[91Z28]

Look at it this way.......

If you got into a trash talking war with someone, and finally got him to put up or shut up. Would you be embarassed to lose by 9/10ths of a second?

[LS1What]

Look at it this way.......

If you got into a trash talking war with someone, and finally got him to put up or shut up. Would you be embarassed to lose by 9/10ths of a second?

Hell yeah I would, but I'm not a dumbass and wouldn't go calling out car I know that would/could walk me...

[91Z28]

AHA! So you admit that 9/10ths is getting walked!

[LS1What]

AHA! So you admit that 9/10ths is getting walked!

Well..........

Yeah, though for the classes the cars are in. That's just what makes the M5 so sweet in my eyes. Well, besides this thread started with a LS1 car, and he won't provide mods to prove he even could keep up with one. Shit, he could lie and make up a killer setup and I'd shutup... haha All this z06 shit, is just that, bullshit, I never agured the fact it wouldn't beat a new M5.