Just ordered one of these

**ztrouble** · 05-22-2009, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by SMWS6TA

Well, tell me why the insurgent that was charging me, I shot 2 times in chest with my 9mm using FMJ's (mil ammo is sonic) , didn't go down until I drop him with a head shot? He had no body armor and was between 10 - 15 ft in a full run. I have shot charging wild boars with a .45 and dropped them from 30 ft away. And they have more body density than a man does.

(Understand I am not bragging above, I just know what happen in a combat situation)

that's why I said I wasnt discrediting what you have or have not seen. I cannot answer specifically from your situation, but there have been many people killed with a 9mm.

I shoot alot better with my 9mm than I do my .45's
I have 3 1911 style pistols and one Smith M&P 9mm. With the development of SD loads in recent years I would feel completely confident if I were to have to use it in a SD situation.

(hope I never have to, plus I carry a 5.56 pistol in my car most times

)

I do feel that if a new shooter were starting out that it is better to go with a smaller caliber to keep from developing bad habits such as flinching, recoil anticipation, trigger jerk, and overcompensation.

**98T/Aformula.** · 05-22-2009, 08:27 AM

Very nice little gun, the night sights are a pretty cool thing to have good work!

**Hi-Po** · 05-22-2009, 08:29 AM

Are night sights worth it? I have always danced around the idea of getting different sights for my XD .40, but have never seen/shot a pistol with them.

**98T/Aformula.** · 05-22-2009, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

I usally carry this. I also have a SF XD .40 I love both pistols. Can barely afford to shoot them right now

You cant tell me that you actually use that scope? I have a friend he put one on his gun, and when holding it like a hand gun he couldnt see anything through the scope soooooo he put his face up to it like a rifle, boom, knocked his ass on the ground and he had the biggest black eye haha...

**ztrouble** · 05-22-2009, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

Are night sights worth it? I have always danced around the idea of getting different sights for my XD .40, but have never seen/shot a pistol with them.

in one word, YES

**Tobynine9** · 05-22-2009, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by ztrouble

in one word, YES

I 2nd that. I have 'em on my Sig 1911 but not on my USP9 compact.

I wish the H&K had 'em bad. I just don't want ot spend the $.

**Hi-Po** · 05-22-2009, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by 98T/Aformula.

You cant tell me that you actually use that scope? I have a friend he put one on his gun, and when holding it like a hand gun he couldnt see anything through the scope soooooo he put his face up to it like a rifle, boom, knocked his ass on the ground and he had the biggest black eye haha...

Yes, I use it.
If your friend could not see through it then he is a dumbass. Which, you pretty much clarifed in your last sentence.

**LS1Jason** · 05-22-2009, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by nitrox28

You must have girlie hands!

I carry a Springfield XD, usually in a paddleback on mu back with no problem. My two bottom fingers hang off of those baby Glocks and subcompact 1911s.

x2

I've shot a few of the pistols with the short grips. hate it. Everytime i do it takes me a couple clips just to get adjusted to it.

**dpinson** · 05-22-2009, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by ztrouble

you are mis informed my friend. 10mm Bullets are the exact same size as .40 cal. 10mm moves the same projectile at higher velocities. 40 s&w was developed from the 10mm cartridge

Not saying what you have or havent seen, but I have confidence that my 9mm will do the exact same thing my .45s will. It's a moot point to even argue. The 9mm is small and fast and the .45 is big and slow. they will do the job

half of that statement was correct 10 mm and 40 cal have the exact same bullet

but i too will say go .45 for the stopping power

no comparison

i carry my .45 concealed but if i had a choice which round to take to battle it would be my cz52 with its 7.62x25mm round, it will go through thick steel and knock chunks out of concrete walls where the .45 will just leave a lead mark

**ls1blackbeauty98** · 05-22-2009, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by GTP231

You'll shoot your eye out kid

seriously what is it with guys and guns? i shot a tree before! i "HAD" to learn to shoot. the gun i used kinda looked like urs will... anyway congrats on the purchase?

**310stanger** · 05-22-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by ls1blackbeauty98

seriously what is it with guys and guns? i shot a tree before! i "HAD" to learn to shoot. the gun i used kinda looked like urs will... anyway congrats on the purchase?

mines bigger

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 05-22-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by dpinson

half of that statement was correct 10 mm and 40 cal have the exact same bullet

but i too will say go .45 for the stopping power

no comparison
i carry my .45 concealed but if i had a choice which round to take to battle it would be my cz52 with its 7.62x25mm round, it will go through thick steel and knock chunks out of concrete walls where the .45 will just leave a lead mark

Oh contrair..... As the owner of both, I have to say, I Love my XD .45ACP, BUT................

Stopping power/Knock down..... Goes, Hands down, to my Ruger SuperBlackhawk .44 Magnum..... Next only to a .50 cal DE or larger.....

This thing is a hand cannon.

**Hi-Po** · 05-22-2009, 10:39 AM

That pistol of mine is the Ruger Super Redhawk .44. Thing is a also a hand cannon. Very accurate when you dont fuck with the scope.

**GTP231** · 05-22-2009, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by ls1blackbeauty98

seriously what is it with guys and guns? i shot a tree before! i "HAD" to learn to shoot. the gun i used kinda looked like urs will... anyway congrats on the purchase?

I find range time relaxing honestly

**dpinson** · 05-22-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT

Oh contrair..... As the owner of both, I have to say, I Love my XD .45ACP, BUT................

Stopping power/Knock down..... Goes, Hands down, to my Ruger SuperBlackhawk .44 Magnum..... Next only to a .50 cal DE or larger.....

This thing is a hand cannon.

ok harry ill give you that one

**310stanger** · 05-22-2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by GTP231

I find range time relaxing honestly

you envision the targets being customers heads

**GTP231** · 05-22-2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

you envision the targets being customers heads

Something like that could be a possibility

**levityinc3** · 05-22-2009, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

I usally carry this. I also have a SF XD .40 I love both pistols. Can barely afford to shoot them right now

Hahaha. I remember this from the Bear Attack thread.

I want a 1911 Colt copy.

**1SSWFO** · 05-22-2009, 07:10 PM

I like the Glocks I've had a 26,32 liked the 32 really well but I have a H&K USP compact now in the 9 its ok just not as accurate i don't think as the 32 though? My Brother has a Kimber Tactical its the shit on accuracy but a little big on Concealed carry? Thought about the 500 S&W I had but dam it was worthless, but had the stopping power of a cannon. Buy em while you can Obamas comming for them!!!!!!!!!

**cammed goat** · 05-22-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by cam02ss

I have the first generation Glock 21- full size .45, but it's too big to carry concealed. So, I ordered the Glock 30 compact with Trijicon night sites. Good feel, comfortable and easy to shoot. What I like most about these weapons is the simplicity- just point and pull the trigger. I was almost talked into a .40 but I'm partial to the .45. Had Smith & Wesson made the M&P in a compact .45 I might have went with that. Should be in this weekend or next. I'm consistant 215ish with a high of 222 out of 225 on our course of fire, so I'm anxious to run through with this and see how I do.

Looks like it has the clip extension. When I was an Explorer with the PD in my old hometown I used to overhear officers complain about how short the grip was. Great firearm, but little area to grip and control it.