Michael Vick just plead guilty !

**TripleBlackTA** · 08-20-2007, 01:29 PM

lol thought i would just put that out there... even though he was killing dogs

**NE98LS1** · 08-20-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

in a sense i agree with you. i think its terrible to hurt dogs, and i think the crime is absolutely disgusting.

But do I think society is being hypocritical? Yes I totally do. People blast deer, bear, mountain lions, etc with shotguns. But because domesticated dogs are furry pets, it's jus terrible. Not for nothing but domesticated animals arent endangered theres thousands of them without loving homes.

But yes I'm totally sick of these NFL players stupidly thinking they can do whatever the fuck they want.

something also is to be said about two animals being forced to tear each other apart again and again, as opposed to a deer being shot once and dead within a matter of seconds.

**bmyers** · 08-20-2007, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by NE98LS1

something also is to be said about two animals being forced to tear each other apart again and again, as opposed to a deer being shot once and dead within a matter of seconds.

ignore him, he's from Nebraska.

**shootnhogs** · 08-20-2007, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by gwballin

Neither really. Just offering my opinion as to what I think the severity of this particular crime is.

Don't get me wrong, do I think what Vick did was wrong? Yes
Would I ever participate in such an event? No

Do I think this is any more cruel than deer hunting or the slaughter of cows for beef? Not really.

How about hunting deer for an only means of aquiring meat?

**joerockhead** · 08-20-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

way they was just talking on ESPN after he does his jail term the League will suspend him for a year .. So we are looking at 2010 before he would be able to be play ..that is if someone wants him...

A year is not long enough, it should be at least two years, maybe three.

Originally Posted by gwballin

........
Don't get me wrong, do I think what Vick did was wrong? Yes
Would I ever participate in such an event? No

Do I think this is any more cruel than deer hunting or the slaughter of cows for beef? Not really.

First, God put Deer and Elk on this planet for the human to feed on. They are a food source. Cattle where never intended to become the major food source it has. How most of these are raised and killed is not very humane either.

Dogs are supposed to mans friend to aid in the hunt, and provide comfort.
If you have never owned a dog, then you do not understand. If you have owned dogs, and do not think what he did was that bad, then you have a far different mind set then most of the population.
Being as cold as he is to these dogs, is just wrong. the Dogs did nothing wrong, other then be born or bred to a bunch of Shit headed Assholes.
No, Vick should not be killed, but a few minutes with the starving dogs would be good. (that is just my cold hearted self talking).

I hope he is suspended by the NFL, and fined. so he can NEVER play again.

**gwballin** · 08-20-2007, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by shootnhogs

How about hunting deer for an only means of aquiring meat?

If that is what you want/like/need to do, more power to you. I wasn't suggesting that others should not hunt, just that it is not for me as I personally would not like to be the one to inflict the pain on the animal (provided I did not get a clean kill and the way I shoot that would likely be the case).

**eddierox** · 08-20-2007, 05:02 PM

Well they got Micheal Vick & Paris Hilton ... Bush and his Stockholm syndrome buddy Osama Bin Laden are still out there committing mass murder & genocidal atrocities ...

Wierd

**Crimson Sin** · 08-20-2007, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by joerockhead

A year is not long enough, it should be at least two years, maybe three.

First, God put Deer and Elk on this planet for the human to feed on. They are a food source. Cattle where never intended to become the major food source it has. How most of these are raised and killed is not very humane either.

Dogs are supposed to mans friend to aid in the hunt, and provide comfort.
If you have never owned a dog, then you do not understand. If you have owned dogs, and do not think what he did was that bad, then you have a far different mind set then most of the population.
Being as cold as he is to these dogs, is just wrong. the Dogs did nothing wrong, other then be born or bred to a bunch of Shit headed Assholes.
No, Vick should not be killed, but a few minutes with the starving dogs would be good. (that is just my cold hearted self talking).

I hope he is suspended by the NFL, and fined. so he can NEVER play again.

+1
To take a domesticated animal that trusts and loves you, depends on you to care and feed/love etc. and to beat it, torture it, force it to fight for its life over and over again.
How do you compare that to hunting ?

Does the hunter drag the deer back to his house and starve it for a few weeks and beat/torture it to make it mean and toss it into a pit to fight it out with other deer ? Did you think about what you were typing at all ? or did you simply not realize the extent of the brutality of dog fights. If you haven't seen what they do to dogs to train them. You should. If you're even half human it will make you sick to your stomach. I ain't one of them BLEEDING HEART types, but damn man.. dog fighting... that shit's messed up

**86 IROC-Z** · 08-20-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by eddierox

Well they got Micheal Vick & Paris Hilton ... Bush and his Stockholm syndrome buddy Osama Bin Laden are still out there committing mass murder & genocidal atrocities ...

Wierd

**gwballin** · 08-20-2007, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by joerockhead

First, God put Deer and Elk on this planet for the human to feed on.

Disagree.

Originally Posted by joerockhead

They are a food source.

Agree.

Originally Posted by joerockhead

Cattle where never intended to become the major food source it has.

No opinion.

Originally Posted by joerockhead

How most of these are raised and killed is not very humane either.

Agree.

Originally Posted by joerockhead

Dogs are supposed to mans friend to aid in the hunt, and provide comfort.

I do not disagree.

Originally Posted by joerockhead

If you have never owned a dog, then you do not understand. If you have owned dogs, and do not think what he did was that bad, then you have a far different mind set then most of the population.

I have had 2 dogs, and I agree that my mind set is different than most of the western population on this particular subject.

Originally Posted by joerockhead

Being as cold as he is to these dogs, is just wrong. the Dogs did nothing wrong, other then be born or bred to a bunch of Shit headed Assholes.

Agree.

**bmyers** · 08-20-2007, 06:34 PM

i hate pitbulls. They have become the sidekick to thugs and thug wanna-bes all over the country. An annoying stereotype.

**bmyers** · 08-20-2007, 06:34 PM

^just a sidenote, not condoning the executions

**Camaros710102** · 08-20-2007, 06:44 PM

I disagree, I have two Pitbulls and I am far away from a thug or a wanta be. I have been raised with Pitbulls and I think that they are the most loyal and best dog breed. Just my two cents.

**bmyers** · 08-20-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Camaros710102

I disagree, I have two Pitbulls and I am far away from a thug or a wanta be. I have been raised with Pitbulls and I think that they are the most loyal and best dog breed. Just my two cents.

maybe it just a what it seems to be around here. i have a doberman and hear the same stuff.
the people that i see own them irritate me i should say, they give the breed a bad name.

**Camaros710102** · 08-20-2007, 07:15 PM

bmyers, do me a favor and watch this youtube clip....

**Camaros710102** · 08-20-2007, 07:30 PM

I hope that Vick gets his in prison

**bmyers** · 08-21-2007, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by Camaros710102

bmyers, do me a favor and watch this youtube clip....

i watched it. I used to live next to some people that owned pitbulls. They would constantly get them ready to fight with eachother. I never saw them actaully fight, they just taunted the dogs. Like i said theres some retarded people around here that give pitbulls a bad name. I get a ton of cautious parents when they see my doberman, its my weiner dog they need to worry about.

**cam02ss** · 08-21-2007, 05:05 AM

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**Sarge** · 08-21-2007, 05:10 AM

Vick is an idot, stupid, immature and worthless.

**Sarge** · 08-21-2007, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by eddierox

Well they got Micheal Vick & Paris Hilton ... Bush and his Stockholm syndrome buddy Osama Bin Laden are still out there committing mass murder & genocidal atrocities ...

Wierd

Dont bring your fucking politics into every string Eddie.