Manual or Automatic???

**greatwhiteZ28** · 07-26-2007, 06:52 PM

let me say it straight its more consistent if its a A4 but for fun factor M6 all day . if you go to most of the races M6 s are really preparring for the race casue they know they have to be dead on on there shifts. and when they are they can win wicked. but al;ll the time at the races most of them complain ( including me that the A4 have somewhat of a advantage over them). explessial if there stalled. when a M6 beats a A4 witha drivers race there always releved and more satisfied casue they know that they beat the car AND THE DRIVER. but when its racing "who cares"

**splitfinger09** · 07-27-2007, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by greatwhiteZ28

and the excuse always with the manual is " yea it won casue it was a auto"

Thats a terrible excuse. The car with the manual should not be racing you if he doesn't know how to drive. From a roll though, m6 hands down.

**secondgearscratch** · 07-27-2007, 04:58 PM

ok how about this one since this thread wont die....

1.stalls eat power.

2.alot of auto owners have no idea how important it is to match a cam with gears and the stall, thus they get eaten alive by a similar m6.

3. i suppose you can go with the auto being more consistent but a manual has the potential to best its previous time, the work is up to you.

4. between the two transmissions, the auto is weak, costs way more money to rebuild to transfer the power an otherwise stock 6 speed does. most (for breakneckspeed

) autos running low 11s or better utilize at the very least a healthier 4l80e out of gm trucks. the faster autos go, the more complicated the transmissions get, varying greatly from the stock unit.

6. the coveted "roll" race...doesnt really mean anything come track day, so all you m6 guys better ante up unless you want to start crying. a 4000 stall with 373s and a cam is no joke.

having said that, i drive a manual out of personal preference. i make no excuses, i have never been beaten by a comparable f body that was an auto. i got sprayed on. i am basically stock. i have beaten a 2000 vette that was an automatic. explain that one, because i cant....

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 07-27-2007, 05:04 PM

I have also beat auto C5 vettes. Most A4 guys around town don't even want to race me. They all say you have an advantage with a manual and have 2 more gears so it's not fair. Most are a bunch of cry babies. I would build an auto if was going to make a drag race car though.

**Rikki_SeVeN** · 07-27-2007, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am

I have also beat auto C5 vettes. Most A4 guys around town don't even want to race me. They all say you have an advantage with a manual and have 2 more gears so it's not fair. Most are a bunch of cry babies. I would build an auto if was going to make a drag race car though.

hm... Excuses should be made after one races...no before... LOL... I have an auto...and the only thing I've wanted more then beating my friends Supra...is to run a Manual F-Body... to see what the difrence is... if I loose...then I'll blame my shitty tires...but not the Trans...

**z28jerad** · 07-27-2007, 05:57 PM

i myself have an a4, and yes i too would trade it for an m6. however, when i bought the car i had i specialty tranny shop custom build my 4L60E with all billet parts, new aftermarket bands,shell and everything else in there. i also had them put on a medium setting manual valve body shift kit from fairbanks. she shifts hard and quick, plus if i want to manually shift it like a stick i can do that too, just dont have a clutch. the guy told me i wont break it and he garanteed it for 2 years or 50000 miles. either m6 or a4, they are both fun and are still faster then the new mustangs and cost less.

**z28jerad** · 07-27-2007, 05:59 PM

i myself have an a4, and yes i too would trade it for an m6. however, when i bought the car i had i specialty tranny shop custom build my 4L60E with all billet parts, new aftermarket bands,shell and everything else in there. i also had them put on a medium setting manual valve body shift kit from fairbanks. she shifts hard and quick, plus if i want to manually shift it like a stick i can do that too, just dont have a clutch. the guy told me i wont break it and he garanteed it for 2 years or 50000 miles. either m6 or a4, they are both fun and are still faster then the new mustangs and cost less.

**LETHALxLS1** · 07-27-2007, 06:24 PM

You can say that again! LOL

**BULLET_WS6** · 07-27-2007, 07:38 PM

yeah i beat an auto c5 too

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by camarossf650

well yea i guess it depends on a person but when it comes down to high performance car y get an automatic?if i dont know how to drive stick i suggest you learn,hella more fun to drive.

why is it all high performance cars at the strip are autos??

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by 2MuchFun

It aint muscle unless its manual

thats why autos almost always beat likewise modded M6 cars

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by razoogi

sory but the automatic for girls

yes the girls really do like them when they are giving a guy road head as you are driving.
they cant do that with a six speed

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by 9t8z28

I have not owned an auto car in more than 8 years! To many problems can occur w/ a auto.

one hard launch and a M6s car rear end is bye-bye. lets not forget about messed up clutches

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by patricksd

I'd also ask them how much they had to spend to get their auto to handle that power. My guess - and please remember I'm a newbie - is that upgrading the clutch on an M6 is probaly cheaper than a fully forged bullet-proof 4 speed.

I bought an M6 due to the control factor, the power it can hold, and because I hate the sloppy shifting of an auto. For a car like this, I wouldn't waste my money on an auto. BUT, for a truck or "family" vehicle - auto all the way.

i really dont think there even is a 6 speed in the single digits.
all fast six speeds ditch the stock trans for a T56 and they go threw clutches often

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am

Well now doesn't that suck!

I think fabing up a tunnel would be worth it.

why?
even with my mods, i get good gas milage.

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by secondgearscratch

prove it.

.

go to,
www.ls1tech.com
then look in the timeslip section.
look for pro stock jon, hes a local thats doing 9s.
all the fast cars is automatics.

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by bluefields88

I'm so sick of people thinking my car is slow because it's an auto. the first thing guys ask is "is it a stick", and I say no, and they ask why not. .

i always tell people that guys buy M6s so they can think the car is special and they have driving skills.
gimme any likewise modded M6 and ill roast him.

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by greatwhiteZ28

yea on a roll! thats were the comparrision goes hands down to the m6

not when the auto is stalled

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by secondgearscratch

ok how about this one since this thread wont die....

1.stalls eat power.

2.alot of auto owners have no idea how important it is to match a cam with gears and the stall, thus they get eaten alive by a similar m6.

3. i suppose you can go with the auto being more consistent but a manual has the potential to best its previous time, the work is up to you.

4. between the two transmissions, the auto is weak, costs way more money to rebuild to transfer the power an otherwise stock 6 speed does. most (for breakneckspeed

) autos running low 11s or better utilize at the very least a healthier 4l80e out of gm trucks. the faster autos go, the more complicated the transmissions get, varying greatly from the stock unit.

6. the coveted "roll" race...doesnt really mean anything come track day, so all you m6 guys better ante up unless you want to start crying. a 4000 stall with 373s and a cam is no joke.

having said that, i drive a manual out of personal preference. i make no excuses, i have never been beaten by a comparable f body that was an auto. i got sprayed on. i am basically stock. i have beaten a 2000 vette that was an automatic. explain that one, because i cant....

you keep ssaying our trans is the weak link, why is it any six speed that makes power gets a T56?
your not to far, wanna make a wager and see what my stock trans will do??

**nhraformula** · 07-28-2007, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am

I have also beat auto C5 vettes. Most A4 guys around town don't even want to race me. They all say you have an advantage with a manual and have 2 more gears so it's not fair. Most are a bunch of cry babies. I would build an auto if was going to make a drag race car though.

youre not far either, wanna wager??
ill happliy run my auto