Manual or Automatic???

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

Auto for drag strip only. Manual for everything else. We all know that the M6 is the best!

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

Both have their pros and cons. Having one of each would be the best of both worlds. Debating which one is better than the other is like debating blonds or brunettes. There is no universally correct answer.

Redheads are way better than blonds and brunettes!

[bluefields88]

nothing like a good firecrotch eh?

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

nothing like a good firecrotch eh?

Nothing like an orange muffin for breakfast!

[danziger]

Now that my Z28 is becoming less of a real street car and I am pining for a C5/C6, I kind of wish it was an auto. When I buy the new M6 Vette, the Camaro will start to be a track sled and that is where the A4 shines. Less driveline shock, stall, consistency, etc...

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

Now that my Z28 is becoming less of a real street car and I am pining for a C5/C6, I kind of wish it was an auto. When I buy the new M6 Vette, the Camaro will start to be a track sled and that is where the A4 shines. Less driveline shock, stall, consistency, etc...

I'm waiting to hear if anyone is going to do a A6 swap for the f-body's of if it can be done. I think that would be huge for the auto guys.

If you get a C5 make sure it's a Z06 otherwise get the C6.

[bluefields88]

I heard the A6 is way too big to fit in our cars, and we'd have to make a whole new transmission tunnel to fit it.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I heard the A6 is way too big to fit in our cars, and we'd have to make a whole new transmission tunnel to fit it.

Well now doesn't that suck! I think fabing up a tunnel would be worth it.

[9t8z28]

I don't know, I have 128k on my Jeep with an auto, I've never even changed the fluid. (I probably ought to get on that)

How many clutches would I have put in a M6 in the same time?

Clutches are alot easier than rebuilding a trans!!!
And don't change the fluid in that Jeep. That fluid is the only thing keeping it still working since you neglected changing the fluid.

[secondgearscratch]

auto with stall any day, and faster and more consitent on the track

prove it.

I don't know, I have 128k on my Jeep with an auto, I've never even changed the fluid. (I probably ought to get on that)

How many clutches would I have put in a M6 in the same time?

well, consider for a second what you just said. you drive a jeep. vastly different than an f body in every way. i had an 86 toyota pickup 4 speed. 190,000 miles on the factory clutch. i didnt go launching it and drag racing.

Go tell that to the dudes running in the 9's with autos.

tell me what kind of transmission you think they are running 9s with. this is where you auto guys sometimes get misguided.

a 4l60e isnt going into the 9s. it isnt going into the 10s. it may go into the 11s. that transmission is weak. usually people source a 4l80e for starters. then as they go faster they ditch the 4 speed for a th 400 or a powerglide. faster than that they ditch those for liberty hybrid transmissions that i have little idea how they work. the 4l60e isnt going to go that far at all.

the t56 however can get rebuilt and be good deep into the 10s, and 9s im not sure about. sure it gets expensive blowing clutches on 10 second passes but that has little to do with the transmission.

either way, the debate rages on. i dont think there is a right answer, i'd take an auto in an ls1 if that was all i could find and make it work. whats important is the ls1 under the hood.

[9t8z28]

prove it.



well, consider for a second what you just said. you drive a jeep. vastly different than an f body in every way. i had an 86 toyota pickup 4 speed. 190,000 miles on the factory clutch. i didnt go launching it and drag racing.



tell me what kind of transmission you think they are running 9s with. this is where you auto guys sometimes get misguided.

a 4l60e isnt going into the 9s. it isnt going into the 10s. it may go into the 11s. that transmission is weak. usually people source a 4l80e for starters. then as they go faster they ditch the 4 speed for a th 400 or a powerglide. faster than that they ditch those for liberty hybrid transmissions that i have little idea how they work. the 4l60e isnt going to go that far at all.

the t56 however can get rebuilt and be good deep into the 10s, and 9s im not sure about. sure it gets expensive blowing clutches on 10 second passes but that has little to do with the transmission.

either way, the debate rages on. i dont think there is a right answer, i'd take an auto in an ls1 if that was all i could find and make it work. whats important is the ls1 under the hood.

=X2

[Too Fast]

auto with stall any day, and faster and more consitent on the track

In the decades that I have been reading Road and Track, automatic cars are 99.5% of the time .2-.5 second slower than the manual trans cars. I do agree an auto is more consistent at the drag strip, but not faster.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

In the decades that I have been reading Road and Track, automatic cars are 99.5% of the time .2-.5 second slower than the manual trans cars. I do agree an auto is more consistent at the drag strip, but not faster.

=X2

[thecorrectformula]

I bought mine for the fun factor and MPG. not to mention the fact that its a challenge to master it at the track. I like being able to control my car in this area

[bluefields88]

I'm so sick of people thinking my car is slow because it's an auto. the first thing guys ask is "is it a stick", and I say no, and they ask why not. Then they tell me that I'm not manly because I bought an auto. then they drive around in their hondas with shitty manuals. oh well, I tell them my car has around 345 HP and they shut up.

[jbb6811]

I bought mine for the fun factor and MPG. not to mention the fact that its a challenge to master it at the track. I like being able to control my car in this area

x2!

[BlackSS1]

M6 for me - better mileage and a lot more fun to drive (not necessarily faster with me driving...). But, you MUST get a skip shift eliminator installed - very frustrating until you do

[Too Fast]

I'm so sick of people thinking my car is slow because it's an auto. the first thing guys ask is "is it a stick", and I say no, and they ask why not. Then they tell me that I'm not manly because I bought an auto. then they drive around in their hondas with shitty manuals. oh well, I tell them my car has around 345 HP and they shut up.

LOL! Tell them to STFU when they pull off w/their manual Hondas! Ask them, WHY THE F DID YOU BUY A FWD FOUR CYLINDER CAR???????????? Your car is NOT slow.

[greatwhiteZ28]

In the decades that I have been reading Road and Track, automatic cars are 99.5% of the time .2-.5 second slower than the manual trans cars. I do agree an auto is more consistent at the drag strip, but not faster.

not to hate i fell like the automatic army around here but you say auto are that slow. if you go to some races most of the time m6's will bitch before the race about autos. i admit some can really drive a stick but most dont. they wont win 10 out of 10 probly half. but even after all this talk if you want to dominate get a stall convertor and then youll be sure your over a 1/2 sec then any stock f body. auto or M6......

[greatwhiteZ28]

Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhiteZ28
auto with stall any day, and faster and more consitent on the track

prove it.


prove it, shit i see it every weekend. i do agree what you said for under the hood thoe