How much do you bench?

**LETHALxLS1** · 06-18-2007, 12:49 PM

I ruined my back building houses. Those beams used to span the garage openings are brutal and in many custom homes they are used often in the roof system (8 in one roof I built). Its just something I never thought about till it was too late. Now I am 35 and crippled looking forward to another surgery.

**SexOnWheels** · 06-18-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by derrinx

if you can squat 595 correctly with proper form you should be able to do over 800 on the leg press no problem.... 595 is crazy... keep it up man

It depends on how deep you go for each though.

If you are bouncing of your 'cows' in a deep squat that is an impressive number indeed.

I see some of the guys that call there squats '90 degrees' and they are hardly moving but think that all the wieght put on the bar makes it all better.

What do I know though skittles may have trunks like these (notice how deep Tommy goes):

**Stone** · 06-18-2007, 02:27 PM

Uhhhh hell no!! lol thats sick!! I was always taught to go 85 degrees or less....on that max i went right under 85 degrees, about a little higher than the guy thats squating in that pic

**derrinx** · 06-18-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by SexOnWheels

It depends on how deep you go for each though.

If you are bouncing of your 'cows' in a deep squat that is an impressive number indeed.

I see some of the guys that call there squats '90 degrees' and they are hardly moving but think that all the wieght put on the bar makes it all better.

What do I know though skittles may have trunks like these (notice how deep Tommy goes):

+1.... i hate seeing all these idiots at the gym leaning forward with their knees 12 inches in front of thier toes barely going down at all.... its really rare to find someone who ahs perfect form, but i strive to get close to perfect

**derrinx** · 06-18-2007, 02:32 PM

and legs like that dont come from squats, they come form targeting each muscle individually

edit: depends on your body type

**allbaugh_04** · 06-19-2007, 08:38 PM

true but i don't see how they target one muscle

**derrinx** · 06-19-2007, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

true but i don't see how they target one muscle

idk ive body buidling routines where they do seperate muscles like hamstring and quads or innner and outer thigh or claves and glutes etc, where they do each in burnout fashion for a high number of sets

**derrinx** · 06-19-2007, 09:09 PM

squats get the whole leg, but it primarily gets the quads and you have to make up for that in the otehr muscles to egt that kind of definition

**superchargedblackgto** · 06-19-2007, 10:33 PM

I can get the bar if i try really really hard.....lol

**SexOnWheels** · 06-20-2007, 06:08 AM

Squats are the best exercise you can do as it causes your entire body to be 'bigger'.

There are people that use bowflex and there are poeple who do squats, no inbetween....

**00ssSLP** · 06-20-2007, 06:51 AM

At the beginning of the year I benched 300lbs with no bounce but in the process I messed up my Rotator Cuff pretty bad. It was my own fault I had just maxed out at 290lbs and it went pretty fast for me so I put on 295lbs. Well after I pressed 295lbs between me friends psyching me out and me being a dumba$$ I decided to put the 300lbs on and bench it very slowly. I’m sure everyone here knows what happens when that much weight goes up really slow, you start shifting your weight for more leverage and that was all she wrote. Know after a lot of training I have just worked back up to 275ish, I lost that much between taking a break and taking it slow.

P.S. So don't lift too much before it's time or you will go down in weight with an injury. Oh and I am 6'1 215lbs

**RavensFan19** · 06-20-2007, 07:50 AM

I am 5'10" around 205lbs. I work out 4-5 days a week lifting and cardio. I fucking hate running though, but have been pushing myself to do it more.

What exercises can you guys recommend for lats and whatnot? I suck at doing pull ups because my lower body weighs a lot (I squat over 400lbs). My shoulders, traps, deltoids, etc are in great shape, very solid, but I just cannot do pull ups for the life of me. With no assistance I can do maybe 2-4 pull ups. I have been working on doing pull ups on an assistance machine for about 3 weeks now, but havent seen much improvement. Any suggestions?

**SexOnWheels** · 06-20-2007, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by RavensFan19

I am 5'10" around 205lbs. I work out 4-5 days a week lifting and cardio. I fucking hate running though, but have been pushing myself to do it more.

What exercises can you guys recommend for lats and whatnot? I suck at doing pull ups because my lower body weighs a lot (I squat over 400lbs). My shoulders, traps, deltoids, etc are in great shape, very solid, but I just cannot do pull ups for the life of me. With no assistance I can do maybe 2-4 pull ups. I have been working on doing pull ups on an assistance machine for about 3 weeks now, but havent seen much improvement. Any suggestions?

Do deadlifts (heavy) first on your back day to increase strength in the the lower back (really works entire back) then do one arm rows (heavy) while you are at top energy levels. You can then finish your routine with pulldowns, etc.

A month of that and you will be able to double your pull-up rate.

**derrinx** · 06-21-2007, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by my5thNewUsernameHere

That's exactly what I did back in the day. The creatine seemed like it did nothing until a few weeks in and that one day it felt like I had been on steroids. It's been many years since I've done weight training, I'd be happy to do 150 at this point. My younger brother can still bench in the 300's though and we used to train together. It sucks losing your workout partner.

wow... ohh bay was that day today for me... 165x10 185x8 195x6 205x5 215x5 no help whatsoever, with no more than 2 minutes rest in between.. last week i barely got 235 up, and now i feel like im ready to tackle 255... on the bench btw

cant wait to see what's next...ohh and i fnally got milk so its good to have protein shakes with milk and not water haha

**derrinx** · 06-21-2007, 03:25 PM

in short, damn were you right 5thusername

**86 IROC-Z** · 06-21-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by derrinx

wow... ohh bay was that day today for me... 165x10 185x8 195x6 205x5 215x5 no help whatsoever, with no more than 2 minutes rest in between.. last week i barely got 235 up, and now i feel like im ready to tackle 255... on the bench btw

cant wait to see what's next...ohh and i fnally got milk so its good to have protein shakes with milk and not water haha

Not only does the milk add more protein... it makes the shake so it doesnt taste like throw up... I had to use water while living in a dorm... never again

Its probably partly because I was using shitty cheap low grade whey... but milk is way better regardless I think

**derrinx** · 06-21-2007, 07:00 PM

nah anything tastes like crap in water... it so loose and gritty...

muscle milk in a blender with 2% milk is the best tasting supplement on earth

**sgt0704** · 06-21-2007, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by RavensFan19

I am 5'10" around 205lbs. I work out 4-5 days a week lifting and cardio. I fucking hate running though, but have been pushing myself to do it more.

What exercises can you guys recommend for lats and whatnot? I suck at doing pull ups because my lower body weighs a lot (I squat over 400lbs). My shoulders, traps, deltoids, etc are in great shape, very solid, but I just cannot do pull ups for the life of me. With no assistance I can do maybe 2-4 pull ups. I have been working on doing pull ups on an assistance machine for about 3 weeks now, but havent seen much improvement. Any suggestions?

Honestly, the best way to get better at them, is just to do them. and often. if where you work has a pull up bar out side. ever hr or 2, go out and do a max set. even if it's 3. do that every other day or so. it's like doing pushups, only a little harder. the more you do them, the easier they get. all the rowing and all that shit, will make you stronger, but won't necessarily increase your pull ups.

and how do you do them? that could also be the issue. some people have stronger backs than their arms. so maybe you could do them palms out. if you have a weaker back, then do them palms in.

personally, i prefer palms out, with a close grip.

change your grip too, to the the muscles in a different angle.

and pyramids are good too. i.e. 1 pullup, 10 pushups. 2 pull ups, 10 pushups. 3 pullups, 10 pushups. do that up to 4 or 5. and then work your way down again.

**AKIRA** · 06-22-2007, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by sgt0704

Honestly, the best way to get better at them, is just to do them. and often. if where you work has a pull up bar out side. ever hr or 2, go out and do a max set. even if it's 3. do that every other day or so. it's like doing pushups, only a little harder. the more you do them, the easier they get. all the rowing and all that shit, will make you stronger, but won't necessarily increase your pull ups.

and how do you do them? that could also be the issue. some people have stronger backs than their arms. so maybe you could do them palms out. if you have a weaker back, then do them palms in.

personally, i prefer palms out, with a close grip.

change your grip too, to the the muscles in a different angle.

and pyramids are good too. i.e. 1 pullup, 10 pushups. 2 pull ups, 10 pushups. 3 pullups, 10 pushups. do that up to 4 or 5. and then work your way down again.

All in all, that isnt bad advice, however, too much can make shit get worse.

"Everything works. Nothing works forever."

**AKIRA** · 06-22-2007, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by BREAKxNECKxSPEED

I ruined my back building houses. Those beams used to span the garage openings are brutal and in many custom homes they are used often in the roof system (8 in one roof I built). Its just something I never thought about till it was too late. Now I am 35 and crippled looking forward to another surgery.

You may have had a pre-condition...maybe.

Chances are, yeah, your disk were herniated by the house building. All the lifting and twisting takes a huge toll on your core. When your core fatigues, the lifts become deadly.

When these problems first started to occur, were you working out too or was the house building career too time/energy consuming?