tard in a supra

**preston1980** · 03-06-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Roastem

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I disagree. Retards can't type.

Only lick windows and take their pants completely off to use a wall urinal...

Agreed, why do retards always take off there pants, just to piss?????
But leave there pants on to take a dump??????
Im just kidding I love retards.

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Wesman

Obviously your speedo was off. 5th gear with 3.42's tops out at 181MPH with 25.66" tall tires. Perhaps you had smaller tires, and therefore topped out 5th gear earlier.

the calculated top speed might be 180 mph. unfortunately, aerodynamics play a major role in achieving it. this is where you showed some lack of knowledge. the frontal area of a camaro is huge and catches alot of air.

**Wesman** · 03-06-2007, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

the calculated to speed might be 180 mph. unfortunately, aerodynamics play a major role in achieving it. this is where you showed some lack of knowledge. the frontal area of a camaro is huge and catches alot of air.

I didn't say top speed was 180MPH. I just said that it has the gearing to get it that high.

Nobody can seem to find the official top speed from a legit test, you have any idea what it actually is??

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 05:13 PM

look at how you wrote it. by saying his speedo must've been off because the top speed in 5th is 180.

**Wesman** · 03-06-2007, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

look at how you wrote it. by saying his speedo must've been off because the top speed in 5th is 180.

He said this:

I have had my M6 99 TA at 6000 rpms in 5th gear and my speedo was a little past the 155 mark, I estimate 160 in 5th gear at 6000 or so rpms.

Like I said, he couldn't have topped out 5th gear unless he had very small wheels/tires. He said he was at 6000RPM at 160MPH, which is about 20MPH short of where 5th actually tops out. He may have reached his top speed, but he couldn't have topped out 5th unless he hit 181MPH, which is 181MPH in 5th with 25.66" tall tires and stock gears.

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 06:01 PM

which is why i brought up aerodynamics. yes, the calculated top speed in 5th is 181 mph. achieving it is another thing all together. at speeds this high, drag gets way harder to overcome. you almost have to double the horsepower to overcome the drag vs at low speeds.

i remember reading a mag (i think hot rod mag) did a top speed test. pitted a 98 mustang, 96 impala ss, 99 WS6 convertible, and one other car.

WS6 - 163
impala ss - 152
mustang - 148 (taped off front end and went 152)

the only reason why i remember it is because the impala had better top speed than the mustang.

**Wesman** · 03-06-2007, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

which is why i brought up aerodynamics. yes, the calculated top speed in 5th is 181 mph. achieving it is another thing all together. at speeds this high, drag gets way harder to overcome. you almost have to double the horsepower to overcome the drag vs at low speeds.

I didn't mean to imply that it could hit 181MPH, I just meant that 5th was good up until 181MPH. So he obviously didn't run out of gear, he just ran out of power.

i remember reading a mag (i think hot rod mag) did a top speed test. pitted a 98 mustang, 96 impala ss, 99 WS6 convertible, and one other car.

WS6 - 163
impala ss - 152
mustang - 148 (taped off front end and went 152)

the only reason why i remember it is because the impala had better top speed than the mustang.

Sounds about right. From what I've heard stock LS1 F-bodys are good for 160MPH-165MPH. I wonder what the top speed of a stock auto is?? Proably somewhere around 145MPH-150MPH I'd guess.

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 06:08 PM

one thing i did in my 94 z28 one night was try to top it out. car had 2.73 gears. the car hauled butt up to 130 mph. right then, the car hit a wall and slowed up. still accelreating, just not as quickly. i flipped on the 125 shot and it got back up to speed. made it to 145 mph until i had to slow down for oncoming cars i was catching up to.

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Wesman

I didn't mean to imply that it could hit 181MPH, I just meant that 5th was good up until 181MPH. So he obviously didn't run out of gear, he just ran out of power.

that's better.

Originally Posted by Wesman

Sounds about right. From what I've heard stock LS1 F-bodys are good for 160MPH-165MPH. I wonder what the top speed of a stock auto is?? Proably somewhere around 145MPH-150MPH I'd guess.

well, i've been 145 in mine. still had some in it.

**Wesman** · 03-06-2007, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

well, i've been 145 in mine. still had some in it.

In your A4 LS1??

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 07:29 PM

yes, my black car.

**preston1980** · 03-06-2007, 08:14 PM

All I know is I was in 5th gear at 5900 or so RPMs and it buried the 155 speedo mark, a little past it, I guestimate 160. I did hold it on the straightaway, so I guess I ran out of power, because thats all it would do.

I had 245/50 16's so I figure top end without going past redline was 160-165 ish. Wether you say runnig out of power or areodynamics, either way the top end in my slightly modded TA was around 160. It was not a BS number as Wesman stated.

And the original statement I made was to state that the Supra had a better top end than the WS6 stock to stock. A stock Supra (speed limiter taken off) will hit a higher top speed with the stock power plant. A stock Supra will do 175, per alot of websites that have reviewed the car.

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by preston1980

All I know is I was in 5th gear at 5900 or so RPMs and it buried the 155 speedo mark, a little past it, I guestimate 160. I did hold it on the straightaway, so I guess I ran out of power, because thats all it would do.

I had 245/50 16's so I figure top end without going past redline was 160-165 ish. Wether you say runnig out of power or areodynamics, either way the top end in my slightly modded TA was around 160. It was not a BS number as Wesman stated.

i'm agreeing with you.

**preston1980** · 03-06-2007, 08:26 PM

Thank you, my friend.

And here I thought all Moderators had a god complex, your an alright guy.
Nice numbers by the way.

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by preston1980

And here I thought all Moderators had a god complex,

who says i don't???

**preston1980** · 03-06-2007, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

who says i don't???

Ha Ha, by the way, how are things down in "Da Lake"
LOL

**mrr23** · 03-06-2007, 08:57 PM

kinda shallow

**Cloud9** · 03-09-2007, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Wesman

Who's talking about 450 or 500WHP?? Where did you pull that from?? I said with the stock turbos (meaning a STOCK car) they run out of breath on the top end. Obviously you can do mods to change that, thats a given and is true with any car, so your arguement is not even valid.

hahaha are you crazy, let me put this in slow english for you... first i think he was saying the turbos are good till 450-500WHP so why do YOU think they would "run out of breath" at STOCK horsepower??????

Originally Posted by Wesman

Don't listen to the Supra owners, they aren't going to give you a straight answer because they are obviously biased towards their precious cars

how is your opinion NOT biased???

And i didnt read the whole thread so if this was already coverd, i did it again.

**Wesman** · 03-10-2007, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Cloud9

hahaha are you crazy, let me put this in slow english for you... first i think he was saying the turbos are good till 450-500WHP so why do YOU think they would "run out of breath" at STOCK horsepower??????

Hmm...lets see...maybe because the stock turbos aren't pushing 450-500WHP worth of boost?? I dunno, maybe, just maybe thats the reason??

You import trolls are ridiculous, use some common sense.

how is your opinion NOT biased???

And i didnt read the whole thread so if this was already coverd, i did it again.

Well I suggest you just stop posting here then if you don't even know whats going on. You're just looking to start trouble, thats obvious

**Cloud9** · 03-11-2007, 08:17 AM

Im only asking cuz im curious about your reasoning, what do you mean "out of breath" do you mean boost, cuz im sure a turbo will not lose boost at higher RPM's with stock boost level.