Does Nascar Suck ?

[dock]

Yes it does for us old farts. No it don't (obviously) for the young folks.
NASCAR has evolved from my hero's of Junior Johnson/Richard Petty/Bobby Issac/David Pearson and the likes....hard nosed, grease all over em, working on their own cars....no polish on any of those guys...just hard core gearheads....I called those guys race car guys.....Today we have pretty boys who don't know a spark plug from an oil filter....are paid millions to "advertise and pose for pictures"....I call em pussy's. But NASCAR is one big som bitch...more fans for sure than in the early 60's when maybe twice a year ABC Wide World of Sports would have a "blurb" on NASCAR.....and by the way...we all knew it as Stock Car Racing....didnt even know what in the hell a NASCAR was....So to sum it up....I don't think the old Stock Car Racing scene would survive in todays world of Paris Hilton and all the fame and glitz required from damn near anything to provide a fan base....so todays NASCAR is what you must have....all the pretty boys...and marketing hype...and 7X24X365 Speed Channel coverage and mini series of Life on the Road bullshit....
But ol Junior Johnson given a 2007 car and in his hey day would wipe the track with JR. and Tony Stewart and the likes....and then whip their ass in the pits if they had anything to say So no I dont like the glitter of todays NASCAR but I understand it.

Well said. I've got some videos of late 50s - early 60's NASCAR and it's was a totally different world. A lot more realistic, so to speak, with regards to both the drivers, crews and the cars back then. Easier to relate to.

[SS02]

I guess I can say maybe I only dislike it compared to most/almost all
other forms of racing on 4 or 2 wheels. There is no show I that I would
or even could watch over Nascar, that does not involve racing of some
form.

I only watch the news, discover channel(etc), Speed or racing of many forms
with no care of what station/kind of track!

1st: F1 (hate me or not)

2nd: (In no real order)
A1 Grand Prix
Australian V8 Supercars
British Touring Car Championship
Championship Off-Road Racing
German Touring Cars
IHRA Drag Racing
Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series
Lucas Oil On the Edge
PINKS
PINKS - All Out
Porsche Super Cup
Rolex Sports Car Series
Speed GT Championship

3rd: Nascar

4th: News/Hockey/Football/Other



So I was way to rough on it when I started the thread.
(Yet I started it next my Long time friend from grade school, that
really only watches Nascar in the race world and I take every chance
to #%&@ with him about it).

[sgt0704]

watching and doing are two completely different things. watching is pretty boring. most people just go as an excuse to get plastered.

[SS02]

watching and doing are two completely different things. watching is pretty boring. most people just go as an excuse to get plastered.

No way that would be a waist of race fun (if plastered).
Nascar is better then being plastered... I have to be honest
way way better. The truth is the truth.

A roar of any motor is better then getting trashed, anytime and any
place. I do not mind a few beers around the house mowing, cooking
out on the grill or ect.

I have to think Nascar would be a blast if I was driving, boring
most of the time to watch. Get behind any wheel on almost
anything and it would improve 19 times compared to watching.

So ditto to U friend U said it just about perfect, if U log back in to this
thread. I have to ask what is your favorite motorsport? I really wish
I would have started this thread rolling with more of what are some
off U all's favorite motorsport of any kind/form?

[tonyjnjz]

YES!!!

[Sarge]

I grew up with the old "Grand National" racing in North Carolina. I lived a mile from Richard Petty's garage and used to go watch racing all the time. During those years and in the state of NC itself, racing was very much alive.

I'm with you on the fact that NASCAR is not what it used to be 30-40 years ago, but if it was, it wouldn't be here. NASCAR is a commercial juggernaut. The lengths at which they go to identify new markets and what to market are really amazing. You can't argue with the commercial success that they have achieved.

Having said all that, I am still a NASCAR fan. One of the reasons is the tremendous amount of skill it takes to drive a car on the razor's edge of wrecking, all at speeds that are beyond comprehension for most people. The average person and most of the people on this forum would have absolutely no success at reaching the performance level required of these guys at just about any track on the schedule, much less doing it for 3-4 hours at a time. If any of you think so, you are deluding yourself.

I watch it because its fun and entertaining. I go to quite a few races and enjoy the competition and I'm with 200,000 people that enjoy the same thing I do.

Hey another old fart!
Do you think most of these kids watch it to see if anybody is gonna wreck ala WWF?

[snaggeltooth]

The reason that NEXTEL-CUP is so popular is not because of the tracks or the drivers ..It is because the cars are so easy to identify... You can watch a few laps and know who is running where ... Even with all the sports-car racing I watch it is kinda hard to pic out your fave. driver that quick...

[Sarge]

Yeah Jr. has a big tampon hanging out of his trunk.

[astyles]

been a fan for a long time......

[Speedy_Gonzales]

The reason that NEXTEL-CUP is so popular is not because of the tracks or the drivers ..It is because the cars are so easy to identify... You can watch a few laps and know who is running where ... Even with all the sports-car racing I watch it is kinda hard to pic out your fave. driver that quick...

u have no idea what u r talking about

[NHRAMAN]

to us big city boys, nascar is viewed as a toothless mullet wearing redneck sport.
i mean driving around in circles waiting for a draft is a bore.
then again, just about any racing is looked upon as a hillbilly sport

So going in a straight line is cool. .......

[Speedy_Gonzales]

Yeah Jr. has a big tampon hanging out of his trunk.

ya from one of those hottie winner circle girls

[snaggeltooth]

u have no idea what u r talking about

yea right ..you can take all the drivers out put differint people in the cars and it would still beas popular ..... Look at all the "STARS" that nobody enen knew of 3-4 years ago and a new crop of them comeing in ...

[nhraformula]

So going in a straight line is cool. .......

didnt say that way either.
i mean when im at the track, i wear designer jeans and such. im like the only one there whos not wearing wranglers or lee jeans, lol.
btw, i also have a full set of teeth.

[nhraformula]

But to you "big city boys" its OK to run your Ford Explorers and 3 series BMWs at 90-100MPH in circles on the beltway, drafting (tailgating to city folk) others? And running in packs of shitty little ricers "racing" in highway traffic is considered.... hillbilly?

in circles on the beltway??
tailgating we are guilty of, but not because we are racing.
also being big city boys, we can afford out BMWs and such.
ricing is a stupid thing with young guys. then again nascar rices out there cars with stickers and shit

[Speedy_Gonzales]

didnt say that way either.
i mean when im at the track, i wear designer jeans and such. im like the only one there whos not wearing wranglers or lee jeans, lol.
btw, i also have a full set of teeth.

if u talk like that at the track you want have a full set long

[Speedy_Gonzales]

yea right ..you can take all the drivers out put differint people in the cars and it would still beas popular ..... Look at all the "STARS" that nobody enen knew of 3-4 years ago and a new crop of them comeing in ...

people that follow nascar knew about them

[snaggeltooth]

and they just slid in as if nothing happened ...TV ratings and merchandising, that is what NASCAR NEXTEL Cup is all about now ....

[NHRAMAN]

I personally watch, or record , and then watch every Nascar race for the last 5 years..before then, I just made sure I watched...I would like to see some of you 'naysayers' , just TRY and get behind the wheel of a STOCKER and NOT crash in 5 minutes/2 laps......you couldn't ........JUST like you cannot get in a TOP FUEL DRAGSTER and survive a run properly.

[Speedy_Gonzales]

and they just slid in as if nothing happened ...TV ratings and merchandising, that is what NASCAR NEXTEL Cup is all about now ....

well they do have bills to pay....and people are in it to make money its their living