99 Z28 vs. 03-04 Mach 1

**toneloc60** · 06-07-2006, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by rsuplita

I didn't get a chance ever to race one in my 2000 SS (stock), but I ran one on the interstate from ~60mph in my 2005 C6 Z51 and all I could hear was his engine roar for as he downshifted and I left him like he was chained to the ground! LOL

400 HP stock in a what, 2800 lb car? vs. 325 HP stock in a 3750 lb car.

Still, a kill is a kill.

**rsuplita** · 06-07-2006, 07:58 AM

you are right, my friend.

i never claimed it was a fair match-up!

**toneloc60** · 06-07-2006, 08:27 AM

I'd love to own a C6. Those cars are just pure sex on wheels.

**Roastem** · 06-07-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by toneloc60

400 HP stock in a what, 2800 lb car? vs. 325 HP stock in a 3750 lb car.

Still, a kill is a kill.

I think those new vettes are like 3100 to 3200 lb. The mach1s are about 3450 or so. Every lb counts though, the vette would need a fat ass passenger, and shut down a cylinder for it to be close with a mach1 driver being alone.

**robb4964** · 06-17-2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Wesman

Mach 1's are actually pretty damn close to LS1 F-Bodys in terms of performance. I'd still give the edge to the LS1, but it should be close.

Obviously the author has mods, so that tilts the tables a lot

Stock for stock they are real close. Machs are worthy of respect.

Until you do one bolt on to your car. The gap grows FAST once you start modding.

**Angus66** · 06-22-2006, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by robb4964

Until you do one bolt on to your car. The gap grows FAST once you start modding.

They make mods for Mach 1's too though....

**Roastem** · 06-23-2006, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Angus66

They make mods for Mach 1's too though....

I think he is talking about mod for mod. Like long tubes on an LS1 deliver more power than the same mod on a Mach1.

**Antz97ZNJ** · 06-23-2006, 07:16 AM

You have a full bolt on cam'd LS1 and your wondering why you left a stock mach..

...In stock form they run pretty similar.

**Roastem** · 06-23-2006, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Antz97ZNJ

You have a full bolt on cam'd LS1 and your wondering why you left a stock mach..

...In stock form they run pretty similar.

No, I was wondering why he got took out so badly. I know they run hard. I had an 01 Cobra, and supposedly, stock for stock, the Mach1 is a hair faster than the 01. I figured I would have two or three car lengths, not more than a BUSLENGTH.

I think he might have let off when he saw it was useless to continue.

**Angus66** · 06-23-2006, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Roastem

No, I was wondering why he got took out so badly. I know they run hard. I had an 01 Cobra, and supposedly, stock for stock, the Mach1 is a hair faster than the 01.

I also had an '01 Cobra, and I can safely say that the Mach is more than a "hair" faster when driven correctly.

Originally Posted by Roastem

I figured I would have two or three car lengths, not more than a BUSLENGTH.

Race a properly-modded bolt-on Mach next time & the outcome will likely be very different...

**Roastem** · 06-23-2006, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Angus66

I also had an '01 Cobra, and I can safely say that the Mach is more than a "hair" faster when driven correctly.

Race a properly-modded bolt-on Mach next time & the outcome will likely be very different...

I have raced some "properly modded 03 Cobra's," and put the smack down on one, and was even with the other (and I ain't put the heads on yet). If you got a Mach1 that is properly modded in this area that wants a piece, then I will happily oblige. I would rather race you, but I ain't driving all the way to Pennsylvania.

Maybe you post on a Mustang website and can get some locals to run me. I will be more than happy to bust 'em for you. Hopefully, they will bring a video camera, and you can post the results on here, just so people don't think I am

'ing.

**Angus66** · 06-23-2006, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Roastem

I have raced some "properly modded 03 Cobra's," and put the smack down on one, and was even with the other (and I ain't put the heads on yet). If you got a Mach1 that is properly modded in this area that wants a piece, then I will happily oblige. I would rather race you, but I ain't driving all the way to Pennsylvania.

Maybe you post on a Mustang website and can get some locals to run me. I will be more than happy to bust 'em for you. Hopefully, they will bring a video camera, and you can post the results on here, just so people don't think I am

'ing.

I didn't say you were bs'ing, just that racing a non-stock Mach would be "different" than the race you posted...

... my bolt-on Mach (no internal engine mods whatsoever) runs 7.3 - 7.4 @ 92 mph+ in the 1/8th & 11.5 - 11.6 @ 117 mph+ in the 1/4.

What does your SS run?

**Mach1Mustang** · 06-23-2006, 09:35 PM

Oh god, here we go again.
Also i will not be able to make that tourny next month so i will not be up there. Maybe we can meet at a dragstrip or something, or half way!!

**Roastem** · 06-26-2006, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Angus66

I didn't say you were bs'ing, just that racing a non-stock Mach would be "different" than the race you posted...

... my bolt-on Mach (no internal engine mods whatsoever) runs 7.3 - 7.4 @ 92 mph+ in the 1/8th & 11.5 - 11.6 @ 117 mph+ in the 1/4.

What does your SS run?

Damn, nice numbers. I only got a time on it twice in its current form, and out of the two I got a best of 8.36 @ 89 mph with a somewhat bad 60 ft of 2.15, on STREET tires. I got a set of heads about to get planted on there, so we will see what it will run then with a set of slicks. Mid-11's with just bolt-ons on a Mach1 sounds a little far fetched. Must have had 4.56's gears and a full suspension mods also?

By the way, it is a Z28, not an SS.

**Angus66** · 06-26-2006, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Roastem

Damn, nice numbers.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Roastem

I only got a time on it twice in its current form, and out of the two I got a best of 8.36 @ 89 mph with a somewhat bad 60 ft of 2.15, on STREET tires. I got a set of heads about to get planted on there, so we will see what it will run then with a set of slicks.

Not too shabby...

Originally Posted by Roastem

Mid-11's with just bolt-ons on a Mach1 sounds a little far fetched. Must have had 4.56's gears and a full suspension mods also?

My Mach has 4.30's (I do have a set of 4.56's in the garage waiting to go in though...

) & suspension mods, which are both bolt-ons.
Best two N/A slips to date:

Originally Posted by Roastem

By the way, it is a Z28, not an SS.

Oops - my bad....

**Roastem** · 06-27-2006, 06:49 AM

No 60 ft time on either of those timeslips?

That thing is flying. You tagged any 03 Cobra's with it yet?

**Marc87GN** · 06-27-2006, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Angus66

Thanks.

Not too shabby...

My Mach has 4.30's (I do have a set of 4.56's in the garage waiting to go in though...

) & suspension mods, which are both bolt-ons.
Best two N/A slips to date:

Oops - my bad....

Damn that car is quick with a great mph. Just shows what people can do with a car when they know what they are doing. I'm sure you just provided some education to many people. I also noticed the 60ft not there, but it had be good looking at the 1/8 mile time. Probably low 1.60s if I had to guess. With a poweradder, that car will fall into the 10s on accident.

**Antz97ZNJ** · 06-27-2006, 07:40 AM

A full bolt on/cammed LS1 would beat a stock mach one pretty bad. They have ran high 11's low 12's as to where a mach 1 stock generally runs low to mid 13's...so theres your bus lengths. They run close but LS1's are still considerbly quicker up top stock..Being a former Cobra owner im sure you know that the wrong driver can make a mustang look slow..There definately a drivers car.

**Roastem** · 06-27-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Antz97ZNJ

A full bolt on/cammed LS1 would beat a stock mach one pretty bad. They have ran high 11's low 12's as to where a mach 1 stock generally runs low to mid 13's...so theres your bus lengths. They run close but LS1's are still considerbly quicker up top stock..Being a former Cobra owner im sure you know that the wrong driver can make a mustang look slow..There definately a drivers car.

I agree. A full bolt-on LS1 with 4.10's and STOCK 245/45/16 Goodyears is real mutha to keep from spinning too. I found that out the first time I raced the ole Z28, the FIRST night I owned it. Full power in first or second would just annihilate those stock tires on bad pavement.

**Angus66** · 06-27-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Roastem

No 60 ft time on either of those timeslips?

Originally Posted by Marc87GN

I also noticed the 60ft not there, but it had be good looking at the 1/8 mile time. Probably low 1.60s if I had to guess. With a poweradder, that car will fall into the 10s on accident.

I was kinda pissed that the 60ft clock was acting-up in that lane on & off all day - I use the 60' and 330' data to help me make suspension adjustments to lower my ET/raise mph.

Here are some other runs made two days prior:

60'.................1.517 (Best N/A 60' time so far this year I think)
330'...............4.745
1/8................7.422
1/8 mph........90.95
1000'.............9.745
1/4..............11.698
1/4 mph......115.35

60'.................1.530
330'...............4.733
1/8................7.402
1/8 mph........91.86
1000'.............9.706
1/4..............11.650
1/4 mph......115.12

60'.................1.525
330'...............4.740
1/8................7.414
1/8 mph........91.96
1000'.............9.711
1/4..............11.648
1/4 mph......116.47

(2) best slips from that day:

Originally Posted by Roastem

That thing is flying. You tagged any 03 Cobra's with it yet?

Originally Posted by Marc87GN

Damn that car is quick with a great mph. Just shows what people can do with a car when they know what they are doing. I'm sure you just provided some education to many people. With a poweradder, that car will fall into the 10s on accident.

Thanks for the compliments guys.

I have beaten more than one modded '03/'04 Cobra (and many stock/near-stock ones), but there are plenty faster than mid-11's so I remember that whenever I race one.

I'm looking for upper 10's on a 100-shot in the near future...