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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    So, for less than $500 to upgrade all (4) rotors and pads, along with some upgraded brake lines, the car would be stout?
    ford is saying the brake system "yes, the entire system" needs to be replaced every 15,000 miles as routine maintenance...........thats what they told my friend ford refuses to do a recall. a guy somewhere in the US wrecked his car into the side of a dealership about 2 months ago when he was taking it in to have the brakes looked at. His brakes failed, and he literally drove into the side of the dealership....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 310stanger View Post
    Not saying anyone's right or wrong but this car has had rave reviews for both handling and braking and both seemed great to me. You guys really thought it was bad? How many of you have full suspension on your fbodies?
    dont buy one...you need to look at actual reviews/forums and not what motor trend tells you after they beat the hell out of the car for a day. Many people all over the country are having A LOT of mechanical issues with these cars after 10-15,000 miles and I know a hand full of them personally. The motors are great, the body style looks good, but they have some serious brake, drive train, and mechanical issues that have yet to be resolved. Not to mention the window motors have to be replaced about every 4 months because they drop about an inch and a half everytime you unlock your doors because the door cannot open with the window up "good luck if the battery dies lol"...as long as you are under warranty these cars would probably be pretty cool to own, but everybody I know that owned one "with the exception of one person" has sold it and gotten the hell away from it.
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    Most cars drop the window to open the door. Its usually less than an inch just like the mustangs. Never seen any stang ssr vette camaro go through window motors every 4 months because of it...
    Haven't heard about the brake problem either

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    We had the window felt freeze to the glass on our Challenger last winter and had a bitch of a time with the door. Stupid ass design for cold weather imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    Most cars drop the window to open the door. Its usually less than an inch just like the mustangs. Never seen any stang ssr vette camaro go through window motors every 4 months because of it...
    Haven't heard about the brake problem either
    look it up...I promise it exists

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    We had the window felt freeze to the glass on our Challenger last winter and had a bitch of a time with the door. Stupid ass design for cold weather imo.
    That is weird that has never once happened to me in my charger. Any reason to as why it happened?

    I wonder if the availability (where I am located) of 5.0s with very low miles has any correlation with a preceived or actual problem with them? I am sure it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theorangeguy View Post
    look it up...I promise it exists
    None of the Ford techs I know have heard of it either

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    Here's some of the stuff I found from a quick search...seems like the issues revolve around the control arms, 6speed tranny, and brakes. "and yes I know some of these people are just b!tching just to b!tch..."

    2012 Ford Mustang Power Train Complaints

    2013 Ford Mustang Power Train Complaints

    NHTSA Investigating Complaints About Chinese-Made Ford Mustang Transmissions | Fox News

    2011 Ford Mustang Power Train Complaints

    2011 Ford Mustang Hydraulic Brake Complaints

    2012 Ford Mustang Hydraulic Brake Complaints

    2013 Ford Mustang Hydraulic Brake Complaints

    2012 Ford Mustang Brake Pedal Clunks When Released | CarComplaints.com

    2012 Ford Mustang Control Arm Failure | CarComplaints.com

    2011 Ford Mustang Service Brakes, Hydraulic Problems | CarComplaints.com

    2012 Ford Mustang Electronic Stability Control Problems | CarComplaints.com

    Ford Mustang Service Brakes - 2012 FORD MUSTANG Problems With Service Brakes



    Not sure if the techs you spoke with either cant say what the problem, cant discuss it, or just dont know about it but like I've said quite a few times...I personally know multiple people who had problems with them "not being biased, I used to own a 97cobra". 2 of my friends were given the same answer from ford and they stated that the braking system has a known issue that they are trying to figure out and they were both recommended to replace the systems under warranty after 15,000miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    That is weird that has never once happened to me in my charger. Any reason to as why it happened?

    Just a typical Pennsylvania winter day with freezing rain and wind. The door would open, but not shut due to the edge moulding around the side window impacting the glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theorangeguy View Post
    Here's some of the stuff I found from a quick search...seems like the issues revolve around the control arms, 6speed tranny, and brakes. "and yes I know some of these people are just b!tching just to b!tch..."

    2012 Ford Mustang Power Train Complaints

    2013 Ford Mustang Power Train Complaints

    NHTSA Investigating Complaints About Chinese-Made Ford Mustang Transmissions | Fox News

    2011 Ford Mustang Power Train Complaints

    2011 Ford Mustang Hydraulic Brake Complaints

    2012 Ford Mustang Hydraulic Brake Complaints

    2013 Ford Mustang Hydraulic Brake Complaints

    2012 Ford Mustang Brake Pedal Clunks When Released | CarComplaints.com

    2012 Ford Mustang Control Arm Failure | CarComplaints.com

    2011 Ford Mustang Service Brakes, Hydraulic Problems | CarComplaints.com

    2012 Ford Mustang Electronic Stability Control Problems | CarComplaints.com

    Ford Mustang Service Brakes - 2012 FORD MUSTANG Problems With Service Brakes



    Not sure if the techs you spoke with either cant say what the problem, cant discuss it, or just dont know about it but like I've said quite a few times...I personally know multiple people who had problems with them "not being biased, I used to own a 97cobra". 2 of my friends were given the same answer from ford and they stated that the braking system has a known issue that they are trying to figure out and they were both recommended to replace the systems under warranty after 15,000miles.
    1 has never had one in for brake work at all. Others have never seen one need a total system replacement

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    What the heck is a total brake system replacement exactly? You are telling me all 4 rotors pads lines abs module and bcm go bad? I call bullshit on this one

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    Had a 2012 Boss. About the only thing in common with a GT was the Getrag chinese made 6 spd. Motor, Brakes, Suspension, wheels/tire, are all different components. I put 12.6k on the Boss and shifted at 7K rpm enough times to know if something was gonna break it woulda happened. I've heard that in colder climates the tranny fluid did not perform well but I did not have that issue here in hot ass Texas. It did not like being forced and manhandled into gears tho. I did have some wheel hop but nothing a set BMR LCA's didn't cure. No other mods were necessary. Obviously, a GT is going to feel a little mushy with more roll in the suspension to me. The only time I've heard of the #8 failure was due to a bad or risky tune.

    Currently own a 2014 GT500. Ummm, it's incredible. Needs wider rears and maybe a set of BMR LCA's to bite the pavement better. The tires are pretty sticky when heated up but 662 HP still breaks loose easy enough...
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    Modded a customer's '13 last year with 1240 miles on it. Magnaflow catback and AirRaid cold air intake. I think it also had a short throw shifter in it. I thought it sounded mean stock. I was wrong. After I installed the pipes and CAI, the car REALLY growled. Took it for a drive afterward and I liked it. Customer gives a rev sometimes while he passes my job. I don't know if he had headers installed as the car sounds downright evil now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cammed goat View Post
    Modded a customer's '13 last year with 1240 miles on it. Magnaflow catback and AirRaid cold air intake. I think it also had a short throw shifter in it. I thought it sounded mean stock. I was wrong. After I installed the pipes and CAI, the car REALLY growled. Took it for a drive afterward and I liked it. Customer gives a rev sometimes while he passes my job. I don't know if he had headers installed as the car sounds downright evil now.
    Yeah, but 4.6 Mustangs were NOTORIOUS for having a lot of bark and no bite. I'm not saying the 5.0's are that way, but louder isn't faster. My Vette is quite quiet, even with LT's and bullet mufflers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    I raced a cammed/heads 4.6L Mustang back when I was stock aside from my exhaust and lid. I pulled a car length before I even hit 3rd and he jumped the gun on me.
    Not surprising. 4.6's are turds imo...without forced air. I think Fords new 5.0 with a long overdue 6 spd and 3.73's is the real deal tho.

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    It is, 5th is 1:1 and the tranny has some serious steep gearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    Yeah, but 4.6 Mustangs were NOTORIOUS for having a lot of bark and no bite. I'm not saying the 5.0's are that way, but louder isn't faster. My Vette is quite quiet, even with LT's and bullet mufflers.
    Try having 600 hp on tap and a buick Regal is louder. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    Try having 600 hp on tap and a buick Regal is louder. lol
    I'm just shy of that actually :P

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