Been testing Oil

[Sarge]

Actually your not the first to send me that But thank you.
It is very focused on two stroke applications and not as a fuel mix as you know. We do not look to the 2stroke oil as a lubrication for our crank/cylinder/rings etc.
What we are discussing/testing/sharing has more to do with certain properties in the TCW-3 that make it a excellent fuel add to gasoline in a 4 stroke engine. Also our mix ratio is significantly lighter.

With that said....I do not see anything in the JASO FC spec that scares me adding it as a fuel add in a 4 stroke.

Thank you for participating and adding your thoughts/experimenting with us.

[Sarge]

I have been using Amsoil HP Injector Tcw3, I will try Amsoil Interceptor with higher specification, JASO FC.

I meant to ask ......what are your observations using the TCW-3 stuff from Amsoil?

[mephy]

I meant to ask ......what are your observations using the TCW-3 stuff from Amsoil?

Well I started with Lucas I did not like it for the high flash point temperature and the car if I was putting more than 1:700 ratio was loosing power.

Then I tried normal tcw3 much better than Lucas, the car wasn't losing power at the same ratio.

Then I tried AMSOIL Synthetic, the benefit that I saw straight away was that at the same ratio the exhausting pipe become more clean, the second benefit is that doesn't smell like kerosene.

I use a ratio more lean than 1:500 I go between 1:680 and 1:720, if I put more than that my car loose power.

With this ratio I have all the benefits, smoother idle, better start, more clean exhaust pipe so i guess an engine more clean, and of course better protection against the rust in the fuel system.

[mephy]

Actually your not the first to send me that But thank you.
It is very focused on two stroke applications and not as a fuel mix as you know. We do not look to the 2stroke oil as a lubrication for our crank/cylinder/rings etc.
What we are discussing/testing/sharing has more to do with certain properties in the TCW-3 that make it a excellent fuel add to gasoline in a 4 stroke engine. Also our mix ratio is significantly lighter.

With that said....I do not see anything in the JASO FC spec that scares me adding it as a fuel add in a 4 stroke.

Thank you for participating and adding your thoughts/experimenting with us.

Well I agree on what you say maybe I will stay with HP Injector

[Sarge]

Well I started with Lucas I did not like it for the high flash point temperature and the car if I was putting more than 1:700 ratio was loosing power.

Then I tried normal tcw3 much better than Lucas, the car wasn't losing power at the same ratio.

Then I tried AMSOIL Synthetic, the benefit that I saw straight away was that at the same ratio the exhausting pipe become more clean, the second benefit is that doesn't smell like kerosene.

I use a ratio more lean than 1:500 I go between 1:680 and 1:720, if I put more than that my car loose power.

With this ratio I have all the benefits, smoother idle, better start, more clean exhaust pipe so i guess an engine more clean, and of course better protection against the rust in the fuel system.

Yes....many "adjust" to their particular motor. I may get CompSyn to send me some of this Amssoil TCW3 stuff.

[mephy]

There is another thing that worry me to use heavier ratio .

We do not have to forget that Tcw3 contains solvents which can effect the motor oil especially for long drain oil change.

I change the oil once a year and I do hard driving mainly short trip and cold start here in Canada.

Since I get better Idle at 1:720 I do not go over.

[tx tahoe z71]

There is another thing that worry me to use heavier ratio .

We do not have to forget that Tcw3 contains solvents which can effect the motor oil especially for long drain oil change.

I change the oil once a year and I do hard driving mainly short trip and cold start here in Canada.

Since I get better Idle at 1:720 I do not go over.

So rough math, that would be 1oz for every 5.625 gallons of gas (1 gallon = 128 fl oz), correct?

[tx tahoe z71]

Picked up some everlast tcw3 at walmart today. $18 for a gallon. Updates to come once I put a few tanks through.

First impressions after three days of driving, the average mpg readout is 10.7 mpg, so an improvement of 1.2mpg city/hwy driving. (I use E85 and have 75# injectors, so terrible mpg is expected). I usually get 9.3-9.7 in the city and have for the past month or so, ever since I got tuned for E85.

Obviously this is with 30-40 miles driven, hardly scientific, but just wanted to post up an update. When I fill up next time, I will put pen to paper an calculate and actual, non-GM computer average mpg.

[Sarge]

Thank you.

[JayTA98]

I just finished using my 1st quart of penzoil marine tcw3. I can see improvements in my idle and I want to continue using it. I wanted to get the supertech brand from walmart but it doesn't say that is marine type. Can I use it (it says tcw3 rating on it) or do I need to stick with a marine type? Supertech is cheaper. thanks.

[Sarge]

TCW3 is all your looking for. It does not say "marine" on it. Just TCW3.

[JayTA98]

TCW3 is all your looking for. It does not say "marine" on it. Just TCW3.

Thanks Sarge.

[wheeliE-maxx]

First impressions after three days of driving, the average mpg readout is 10.7 mpg, so an improvement of 1.2mpg city/hwy driving. (I use E85 and have 75# injectors, so terrible mpg is expected). I usually get 9.3-9.7 in the city and have for the past month or so, ever since I got tuned for E85.

Obviously this is with 30-40 miles driven, hardly scientific, but just wanted to post up an update. When I fill up next time, I will put pen to paper an calculate and actual, non-GM computer average mpg.

I reckon the guy with the 454 burb might really benefit from this. My 5.3 has a bit

[wheeliE-maxx]

This gentleman believes that adding oil at 640:1 is a bad idea
http://performancetrucks.net/forums/...d.php?t=477467
http://www.ls1tech.com/affiliates/tr...d.php?t=470892

[Smittro]

This gentleman believes that adding oil at 640:1 is a bad idea
http://performancetrucks.net/forums/...d.php?t=477467
http://www.ls1tech.com/affiliates/tr...d.php?t=470892

Links are for what?

I see a cheesey home made TB made of steel with no bearings in the first link..

The other is the same Knucklehead talking about removing his front brakes..

Prolly be a good idea to keep that dude away from anything mechanical..

[Sarge]

This gentleman believes that adding oil at 640:1 is a bad idea
http://performancetrucks.net/forums/...d.php?t=477467
http://www.ls1tech.com/affiliates/tr...d.php?t=470892

Statistics tell us for every 10000 regular folks there is one total idiot. You found him.
1000 InterWeb points for you.

[chuckie669]

Just started treatment on my 09 g8 gt. I've been running a catch can for a while and my exhaust tips are still getting coated black. I know this helped some with my ta, so I guess ill see if there's any improvement.

Running roughly 1oz per 5 gal.

Edit: Sarge, can you enlighten me on some of the other contributing factors of having black exhaust. I feel my car may not be efficiently burning all the fuel.

[Sarge]

Sure man. Tables out of whack (need tune).....O2 sensor gone south....MAF screwed up ......need new plugs......

[chuckie669]

Sure man. Tables out of whack (need tune).....O2 sensor gone south....MAF screwed up ......need new plugs......

Thx Sarge. Could running higher grade fuel than what stock is tuned for be a scenario also?

[Sarge]

Short answer....nope.