LC-1 install

**qwik219d9** · 06-26-2010, 06:10 AM

I had a a bad hood cable gormit leaked water into car, took a while to find it. so I would prefer a differnt more growable route for future electical stuff (next after W/B I plan a DC/AC power inverter)

please check my last post on this thread.

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121834

Thanks

**pajeff02** · 07-04-2010, 02:07 PM

I must have the lesbian version of the LM Programmer -- the connection on my cable and on my laptop are both female. I assume they make an adapter for this that I can pick up locally.

**Y2KPewterSS** · 07-04-2010, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

I must have the lesbian version of the LM Programmer -- the connection on my cable and on my laptop are both female. I assume they make an adapter for this that I can pick up locally.

**pajeff02** · 07-08-2010, 05:01 PM

I was able to connect to my LC-1 with a USB to serial port adapter and the Analog 2 output is now programmed for 0v = 10 and 5v = 18. After programming, I noticed that the 5v setting changed automatically to 17.98 -- no clue why. I also set my sampling rate to 1/6, as recommended.

Kind of odd, my AFR on my gauge and in LogWorks on the laptop is not the same -- it's off by 2-3 -- reads lower in LogWorks. My next step is to connect to the MPVI. Do I need to also run a ground wire to the green junction box that plugs into the side of the MPVI?

**0rion** · 07-08-2010, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

I was able to connect to my LC-1 with a USB to serial port adapter and the Analog 2 output is now programmed for 0v = 10 and 5v = 18. After programming, I noticed that the 5v setting changed automatically to 17.98 -- no clue why. I also set my sampling rate to 1/6, as recommended.

Kind of odd, my AFR on my gauge and in LogWorks on the laptop is not the same -- it's off by 2-3 -- reads lower in LogWorks. My next step is to connect to the MPVI. Do I need to also run a ground wire to the green junction box that plugs into the side of the MPVI?

you don't have to have that ground wire.....I ran the wire with my LM-1 but don't run it with my LC-1. Ground offset has to be adjusted either way to line hptuners up.

**pajeff02** · 07-09-2010, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by 0rion

you don't have to have that ground wire.....I ran the wire with my LM-1 but don't run it with my LC-1. Ground offset has to be adjusted either way to line hptuners up.

Any idea why the LM Programmer re-set my 5v calibration from 18 to 17.98?

**pajeff02** · 07-09-2010, 09:33 AM

I downloaded all the Innovate manuals from their website this morning and read through them. I can't find anything relative to calibrating the AFR in LogWorks or LM Programmer so that the readings on the gauge and laptop match. I'll have to try it with HP Tuners and see what I get.

**0rion** · 07-09-2010, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

Any idea why the LM Programmer re-set my 5v calibration from 18 to 17.98?

no I don't.....I don't think it reset it though, that's probably just a variance. I wouldn't worry about .02 myself.

**pajeff02** · 07-11-2010, 02:39 PM

Just wired up the plug for the MPVI with my Analog 2 output (Pin 1) and a ground (Pin 5). I was messing with the LM Programmer trying to get the display AFR top match the gauge AFR and tried the "Calibration Reset" button. I wasn't thinking when I did this and am concerned that I reset my heater calibration and O2 reading. Any idea what that button does? The manual is semi-useless imo.

**00ls-1** · 07-11-2010, 02:52 PM

this might sound stupid but what exactly is lc1??

**0rion** · 07-11-2010, 03:00 PM

wideband air fuel ratio gauge......

**00ls-1** · 07-11-2010, 03:03 PM

oh ok i know what that is ive never heard of it referred as lc1 thanks

**pajeff02** · 07-11-2010, 03:37 PM

Well... fawk. I have been getting an error on my LC-1 when I utilize my cutout. It will go to 7.4 and just blink. I figured it had to be that it didn't like the fact I was drawing power for the LC-1 and the cutout from the same feed (yes, we had this discussion). So, I ran the cutout power wire out under the hood and tapped into the vacant ETC slot in the front box.

Fired the car up with LogWorks running and now have the gauge and display matching on the AFR reading, so that was cool. Hit the cutout -- ERROR! In LogWorks it came back with "Error 8" so I came in and did a bit of intrawebs research. Popped a bunch of hits on other forums so it appears to be a common problem with no real explanation.

The O2 sender for the LC-1 is installed in the secondary bung on my Kooks LT's, and the cutout is clear back in the rear passenger seatwell -- a good 6' of pipe and a catalytic converter away. WTF?! I am going to do a new heater and free air calibration as that is suggested.

**0rion** · 07-11-2010, 05:47 PM

I run my cutout open all the time with no issues and my wideband sensor is about 12" further downstream than yours. You switched the power to the battery but where are your grounds ran to?

**0rion** · 07-11-2010, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by 00ls-1

oh ok i know what that is ive never heard of it referred as lc1 thanks

lc-1 is a model number. Innovate motorsports makes it.

**00ls-1** · 07-11-2010, 05:55 PM

ok gotcha... ive learned so much from this site thanks everyone answering my ?s

**pajeff02** · 07-11-2010, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by 0rion

I run my cutout open all the time with no issues and my wideband sensor is about 12" further downstream than yours. You switched the power to the battery but where are your grounds ran to?

Ground for the cutout is under the dash to the right of the steering column all by itself. Grounds to everything else are tied together (per the instructions) to the left of the steering column. I did the re-calibration but have to button everything back up a bit before I can try it.

**0rion** · 07-11-2010, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

Ground for the cutout is under the dash to the right of the steering column all by itself. Grounds to everything else are tied together (per the instructions) to the left of the steering column. I did the re-calibration but have to button everything back up a bit before I can try it.

the lc-1's are particular about wanting to be grounded well. That's why I went to the head on mine and got a real good ground out there. May want to check that ground. The gauge is no big deal but I would make sure the lc1 box itself is grounded well.

**pajeff02** · 07-12-2010, 08:58 AM

I shot an inquiry to Innovate tech support from our home computer -- we'll see what I get back. If the recalibration doesn't help, I'll look at moving the ground wires.