Can't break tires loose

**shady milkman** · 06-08-2010, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by ChvyCruzen

so its a heavier car. I also have Sumotomo 315/40/R17 tires .. I've never tried to break 'em loose with my ASR on but when it is off, I can drift through a corner pretty easy.

of course.... they are sumotomos ..that is why

**1986camarojoe** · 06-08-2010, 11:24 PM

Yea get some sumitomos I could smoke them in my z28 from 30mph roll.

**BLK2KSS** · 06-08-2010, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by 1986camarojoe

Yea get some sumitomos I could smoke them in my z28 from 30mph roll.

I used to break mine loose on the interstae with my old lt1 even!

**1986camarojoe** · 06-09-2010, 12:41 AM

Yea they make your car feel much more powerful than what it is. Lol

**BLK2KSS** · 06-09-2010, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by 1986camarojoe

Yea they make your car feel much more powerful than what it is. Lol

for real! I thought that lt1 was a freakin beast till I swapped em for some 555Rs and barely chirpped 2nd

**1986camarojoe** · 06-09-2010, 12:54 AM

Mine is also an automatic. So idk what is wrong with his car.

**BLK2KSS** · 06-09-2010, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by 1986camarojoe

Mine is also an automatic. So idk what is wrong with his car.

yeah me either... maybe a slipping trans

**Too Fast** · 06-09-2010, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft

ASR stands for something slip regulation. Maybe Assisted Slip Regulation? Not sure but it's the same for the Firebird/Formy/TA's TCS (Traction Control System). Torque Management is different...

Stands for Acceleration Slip Regulation. Traction control, glad I don't have that.

Aan AT car with 2.73 gears will usually have a hard time breaking them loose/spinning the tires off the line. Especially if the limited slip diff is in good shape. An easy way to see if you have 2.73 gears, with an AT car, is if you still have the stock driveshaft. A 2.73 car had the steel shaft, the 3.23 cars had an aluminum shaft. My 1998 AT with 2.73 almost never spun them, but I didn't have that car modded. Had to sell that one for the 6 speed.

And torque management is only for when the transmission shifts gears, has nothing to do with starting from a stop.

**shady milkman** · 06-09-2010, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by BLK2KSS

for real! I thought that lt1 was a freakin beast till I swapped em for some 555Rs and barely chirpped 2nd

x2 with 315 555R DRs when they get warm ...it is like catapult feeling everytime i hit a new gear.......(thanks frost for great shifts and no TM)

**splitfinger09** · 06-09-2010, 03:29 PM

Is ASR and TC the same thing?

**Too Fast** · 06-09-2010, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by splitfinger09

Is ASR and TC the same thing?

Yes.

**LS666BEAST** · 06-09-2010, 05:35 PM

I burn the shit out of my tires today a4 style

**alucarusz28** · 06-11-2010, 09:47 AM

Its gotta be the tune. I'm getting a tune by frost this week so I'll see what happens. I ported the throttle body yesterday and that made a nice little difference. Haha. Well when I held the break for like half a second and then floored it my back end was going crazy which made me feel a little better.
Another thing I was wondering is that I might have a different rearend. My bro thought he saw a junkyard marking on it. I have the aluminum driveshaft like Too fast was saying and I have GU5 door code but if they switched out the rear end I might have 2.73. I can't find casting numbers anywhere though. It says 28041414 on my rear end.

**jiveass** · 06-11-2010, 09:56 AM

its your fuel map, its got a nasty hull, I will tune the nos timer and you will run 9s.

**Too Fast** · 06-11-2010, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by alucarusz28

Its gotta be the tune. I'm getting a tune by frost this week so I'll see what happens. I ported the throttle body yesterday and that made a nice little difference. Haha. Well when I held the break for like half a second and then floored it my back end was going crazy which made me feel a little better.
Another thing I was wondering is that I might have a different rearend. My bro thought he saw a junkyard marking on it. I have the aluminum driveshaft like Too fast was saying and I have GU5 door code but if they switched out the rear end I might have 2.73. I can't find casting numbers anywhere though. It says 28041414 on my rear end.

But if they switched the diff, and put a different ratio in, your speedo/odo would be off (it would read too slow if you have a 2.73 and stock was the 3.23). And also your ABS would be freaking out.

**konigandy6** · 06-11-2010, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by needls1again

its your fuel map, its got a nasty hull, I will tune the nos timer and you will run 9s.

As long as you don't have to overnight parts from Japan...

**RyanJM** · 06-12-2010, 04:47 PM

My car is an A4 an bone stock with the 3.23's it could spin the factory 16" size tires from a 25 roll. From a stop I could smoke them till I backed the pedal off so any car that can't has something seriously wrong, I have seen a V6 spin the tires from a stop. With just the Volant, pulleys, tune up, and new muffler at 69k I could spin the 16's all day long. Hell I could spin the 275/35's on 18x10's.
When I installed the headers, LS6 intake, new cat back, and got the car tuned I left the torque management set at factory levels and I could break the 275/35r18's loose like nothing and soon as the tq management was backed off it would slide sideways when it hit second with the Kumho's. Now with the 3.73's and the new BFG KDW's I can still smoke them off the line but only a small spin into second before the tires grab.

**alucarusz28** · 06-12-2010, 10:30 PM

Haha. Well I appreciate everyones comentary about there own cars, no offense but I was looking for a reason why mine won't and everyone keeps posting that theres does. I already know there is something wrong thats why I posted in the first place.

**RyanJM** · 06-12-2010, 11:23 PM

Has to be a tune issue down low your not getting tq but even a handheld shouldn't make it slower than stock although I have never tried a handheld so I'm not sure but I know people who used to before eveyone started doing the proffecional tunes. I would say find someone with a handheld you can borrow and set it back to stock or have a local shop tune it and while there at it they can check to make sure their isn't another underlying problem since even with 2.73's you should spin from a standstill easily.

**trans am man 99** · 06-14-2010, 04:51 AM

unhook your windshield washer hoses & buy one long hose & lead it to the back tires underneath the car. When you want to do a burn out just press the washer button & hang on !!!! You will smoke the tires every time !!! My buddy did the to his studebaker back in the 70 s !!!! really had the girls thinking the car was fast !!!! Fooled alot of guys too !!!!!!!!