20 Years Old, Never had a Girlfriend. Loser?

[Elimin8tor Z28]

How is the pitch of your voice. Pretty high?

No, my voice is low. Baritone.

The doctor said testosterone levels have very little to do with voice.

[Blackbird WS6]

I am trying to have a positive outlook about these injections, and you are not helping. LOL

How about if I am no different in 6 weeks, I will Paypal you 50 dollars.

I am 100 percent serious, and everyone on this site is a witness.

Bet?

nah man lol like i said i wasnt here to disagree with you, just to give helpful tips/idea and info

i have learned form thing that having a positive outlook is fooling yourself into thinking somthing diff.

and you will learn thing as well as in the asshole thing

[KahanaReef]

I am trying to have a positive outlook about these injections, and you are not helping. LOL

How about if I am no different in 6 weeks, I will Paypal you 50 dollars.

I am 100 percent serious, and everyone on this site is a witness.

Bet?

You do know that for these shots to ge effective, they have to be taken every two weeks for the rest of your life, right? Or, you could do the patch or skin gel. That has to be applied every day though.

Has your Dr figured out why someone your age needs testosterone replacement in the first place?

[86 IROC-Z]

Elimibater, if it's any consolation, I'm one year older than you and have only had one girlfriend

[KahanaReef]

No, my voice is low. Baritone.

The doctor said testosterone levels have very little to do with voice.

In someone your age, it sure could. You didn't just lose all that testosterone over night. As a matter of fact, according to you, you never even got to the level you should have. Which would mean that it had to affect puberty at some level for you

[Elimin8tor Z28]

You do know that for these shots to ge effective, they have to be taken every two weeks for the rest of your life, right? Or, you could do the patch or skin gel. That has to be applied every day though.

Has your Dr figured out why someone your age needs testosterone replacement in the first place?

Yes, every two weeks for the rest of my life.

I would rather do that than be depressed, high blood pressure, etc.

The gels and patches are not as effective, and since the insurance covers my injections anyway, he decided to put me on the shots.

Also, no, it is just something I was born with.

[Elimin8tor Z28]

But I actually think it is from being hit in the nuts a lot.

[86 IROC-Z]

But I actually think it is from being hit in the nuts a lot.

lol, yeah, there's definitely a correlation between the two

[Elimin8tor Z28]

lol, yeah, there's definitely a correlation between the two

My friends used to think it was funny to hit me in the nuts, and one time my friend ran full speed and hit me in the nuts with a full water bottle. I hit the ground, almost threw up, and even almost started crying, I was about 16, I think.

That might be what did it.

[Blackbird WS6]

My friends used to think it was funny to hit me in the nuts, and one time my friend ran full speed and hit me in the nuts with a full water bottle. I hit the ground, almost threw up, and even almost started crying, I was about 16, I think.

That might be what did it.

OOOOOOOOK so you call people that keep hitting you in the nuts friends??


i think you need to make a new thread and get to the bottom of that problem as well

[Elimin8tor Z28]

OOOOOOOOK so you call people that keep hitting you in the nuts friends??


i think you need to make a new thread and get to the bottom of that problem as well

We were young and stupid. LOL

I knew most of them since I was 8 years old.

They probably just watched too much South Park. LOL

[86 IROC-Z]

My friends used to think it was funny to hit me in the nuts, and one time my friend ran full speed and hit me in the nuts with a full water bottle. I hit the ground, almost threw up, and even almost started crying, I was about 16, I think.

That might be what did it.

Seems like you have about as much luck finding friends as you do girls.

[KahanaReef]

Yes, every two weeks for the rest of my life.

I would rather do that than be depressed, high blood pressure, etc.

The gels and patches are not as effective, and since the insurance covers my injections anyway, he decided to put me on the shots.

Also, no, it is just something I was born with.

This is what is interesting to me. You say you have a baritone voice. So, your voice change, you say wasn't affected during puberty even though you had seriously low levels of testosterone having been born with the deficiency. You are also a body builder and low testosterone levels generally are accompanied by muscle loss and fat gain. But, you have none of these issues?

[Blackbird WS6]

Seems like you have about as much luck finding friends as you do girls.

i think you just kicked him in the nuts

[Elimin8tor Z28]

This is what is interesting to me. You say you have a baritone voice. So, your voice change, you say wasn't affected during puberty even though you had seriously low levels of testosterone having been born with the deficiency. You are also a body builder and low testosterone levels generally are accompanied by muscle loss and fat gain. But, you have none of these issues?

I have no idea what the exact problem is, but the doctor said I have almost all of the symptoms of low testosterone, and both of my tests came back low.

I developed early, so maybe I was mostly developed before I actually got the problem.

Also, I am a bodybuilder, and have decent muscles, but I never had pecs. My pecs always looked like bitch tits. That’s why I never take off my shirt. The doctor said it is gyno something, which is from low testosterone.

Also, I have gotten a little bigger since I started working out, but my strength has not gone up hardly at all. Which the doctor also said is weird.

A lot of my size is body fat and a little muscle, that is why I look big, but I am not cut. I can never get cut, even when I lost a lot of weight and got down to 159 lbs I still had bitch tits and little muscle.

I don’t know, but hopefully the shots help.

[KahanaReef]

I have no idea what the exact problem is, but the doctor said I have almost all of the symptoms of low testosterone, and both of my tests came back low.

I developed early, so maybe I was mostly developed before I actually got the problem.

Also, I am a bodybuilder, and have decent muscles, but I never had pecs. My pecs always looked like bitch tits. That’s why I never take off my shirt. The doctor said it is gyno something, which is from low testosterone.

Also, I have gotten a little bigger since I started working out, but my strength has not gone up hardly at all. Which the doctor also said is weird.

A lot of my size is body fat and a little muscle, that is why I look big, but I am not cut. I can never get cut, even when I lost a lot of weight and got down to 159 lbs I still had bitch tits and little muscle.

I don’t know, but hopefully the shots help.

Well, I hope they do help you and that you get it all figured out.

[LeadFarmer]

I have no idea what the exact problem is, but the doctor said I have almost all of the symptoms of low testosterone, and both of my tests came back low.

I developed early, so maybe I was mostly developed before I actually got the problem.

Also, I am a bodybuilder, and have decent muscles, but I never had pecs. My pecs always looked like bitch tits. That’s why I never take off my shirt. The doctor said it is gyno something, which is from low testosterone.

Also, I have gotten a little bigger since I started working out, but my strength has not gone up hardly at all. Which the doctor also said is weird.

A lot of my size is body fat and a little muscle, that is why I look big, but I am not cut. I can never get cut, even when I lost a lot of weight and got down to 159 lbs I still had bitch tits and little muscle.

I don’t know, but hopefully the shots help.

hmmm that seems like a really shitty situation to be in, as a fellow gym runt I can def. understand what it must feel like to consistently do work but not get results. I hope the shots help u with that along with your self esteem/girl issues....although I have a feeling most of the social problems ur having are consequences due to ur mentality. ex:girls have little testosterone and are still able to maintain insanely high confidence levels and are capable of feeling/acting the same way us guys act towards them when it comes to the opposite sex. It's all in ur head dude, get that shit sorted out.

[86 IROC-Z]

This is what is interesting to me. You say you have a baritone voice. So, your voice change, you say wasn't affected during puberty even though you had seriously low levels of testosterone having been born with the deficiency. You are also a body builder and low testosterone levels generally are accompanied by muscle loss and fat gain. But, you have none of these issues?

I was thinking this too but...

I have no idea what the exact problem is, but the doctor said I have almost all of the symptoms of low testosterone, and both of my tests came back low.

I developed early, so maybe I was mostly developed before I actually got the problem.

Also, I am a bodybuilder, and have decent muscles, but I never had pecs. My pecs always looked like bitch tits. That’s why I never take off my shirt. The doctor said it is gyno something, which is from low testosterone.

Also, I have gotten a little bigger since I started working out, but my strength has not gone up hardly at all. Which the doctor also said is weird.

A lot of my size is body fat and a little muscle, that is why I look big, but I am not cut. I can never get cut, even when I lost a lot of weight and got down to 159 lbs I still had bitch tits and little muscle.

I don’t know, but hopefully the shots help.

That's why I was wondering what Kahana was saying based on your pics, because the lighting in them makes you look jacked; not 6 pack abs defined or anything, but based purely on the pics I would say you were much more muscle than fat. I guess that's not the case though.

[310stanger]

Get the doctor to give you some anavar, then run test and primo lol you'll be good to go

[Elimin8tor Z28]

Get the doctor to give you some anavar, then run test and primo lol you'll be good to go

Dbol, Tren, Test, followed by a PCT.

100 mg of Dbol. LOL

I wouldn’t last long with that cycle. LOL