How is the Economy Treating You ?

**ws62001** · 12-18-2009, 06:08 PM

Is The Economy Really Getting Better Like the Goverment and there Statistics claim. Even the Stock Market has come back 33% from it lows set in March 2009.

Things don't feel better for me or my family. I can pinpoint in my own life what has not come back to normal or costs more. I wouldn't want to live here (Detroit). Families cannot even Bury there lost ones. They are stacking up in a Freezer.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6926247.ece

[B]GM News Again Another 150 Full-Time Job Lay-Offs.[B]

The V-8 era comes to an end at GM's Tonawanda plant

By Matt Glynn
News Business Reporter
December 18, 2009, 2:01 PM

The era of the "big block" V-8 engine came to an end at the General Motors' Town of Tonawanda plant today.
The plant marked the end of production of the L-18 V-8 engine, a move that is causing the layoff of 150 hourly workers at the plant.
The L-18 was the latest in a series of "big block" V-8 engines that have been made at the plant since 1958. GM announced in June that production of the engine would cease by year's end. The engines were used in GM vehicles as well as commercial applications and powerboats.

Employees, managers and retirees who gathered for a ceremony called the occasion as bittersweet, with the end for a staple of the River Road site's production. The final engine, covered with employees' signatures, is destined for the GM Heritage Center in Sterling Heights, Mich.

The 150 layoffs bring the total number of workers on layoff at the plant to 298, said Robert Coleman, shop chairman of United Auto Workers Local 774.

Coleman and Steve Finch, the plant manager, said they are striving to secure a new engine line that would enable workers to return from layoff. "We're all working very, very hard to make this the place to put GM's next engine," Finch said. While the L-18 accounted for only about 3 percent of the Tonawanda plant's annual output, it had a loyal following among customers that enabled it to keep being produced when its future was in question over the years.

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**KahanaReef** · 12-18-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by ws62001

Is The Economy Really Getting Better Like the Goverment and there Statistics claim.

No.

**raynor139** · 12-18-2009, 06:37 PM

Hmm i still have yet to find a new full time job so im forced to work for a bullshit HoA. My brother with his 4 yr degree is still working part time at costco. And my parents are still looking at pay cuts again. So ima go with a big fucking NO.

**Brian H Drifer** · 12-18-2009, 07:01 PM

we have been busy all year, and our work backlog for next year looks really good.

**67CamaroRSSS** · 12-18-2009, 07:14 PM

Well, I still have my job but sales haven't been as high as the company had hoped for.

**0rion** · 12-18-2009, 07:17 PM

same amount of dishes and laundry this year as there was last year so far.....

**cuervo25_1** · 12-18-2009, 07:17 PM

never fear Obama is here (being sarcastic Ladies and Gents)

**cuervo25_1** · 12-18-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by 0rion

same amount of dishes and laundry this year as there was last year so far.....

OH DAMN YOU MAKE IT TO EASY, but I will be nice...for now. it will increase, your sons growth spurts should be hitting hard soon, if they haven't already.

To hell with being nice..... so you actually sit and count how much laundry you do in a year ,does that include the cleaning of your french made outfit? and dishes? how about yearly grocery bills and other expenses? Did you take Home ec in school or something?

**ZAPFOOL!!** · 12-18-2009, 07:30 PM

just keep buying tires

**0rion** · 12-18-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

OH DAMN YOU MAKE IT TO EASY, but I will be nice...for now. it will increase, your sons growth spurts should be hitting hard soon, if they haven't already.

To hell with being nice..... so you actually sit and count how much laundry you do in a year ,does that include the cleaning of your french made outfit? and dishes? how about yearly grocery bills and other expenses? Did you take Home ec in school or something?

enjoy your workday monday bitch......I on the other hand married well.

Tell me how much you make a year.... I bet I QUIT a job making more 2.5 years ago.

I'll do laundry/dishes ALL day long versus having to go bust ass and make money for someone else.

**Brian H Drifer** · 12-18-2009, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by 0rion

enjoy your workday monday bitch......I on the other hand married well.

Tell me how much you make a year.... I bet I QUIT a job making more 2.5 years ago.

I'll do laundry/dishes ALL day long versus having to go bust ass and make money for someone else.

What did you use to do?

**67CamaroRSSS** · 12-18-2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by 0rion

same amount of dishes and laundry this year as there was last year so far.....

Have another kid (or 2). That'll boost your workload a bit...

**RichB 99GTP** · 12-18-2009, 07:54 PM

To be honest, I'm a highly skilled IT contractor for the govm't, and my wife is a mid level gov'mt employee (GS-12). We haven't been hurt so far, no permanent lay offs in the immediate family.

I understand that we're in a unique position, and I feel bad for all those that have been hit badly by these hard times, but we haven't had things too bad yet.

**cuervo25_1** · 12-18-2009, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by 0rion

enjoy your workday monday bitch......I on the other hand married well.

Tell me how much you make a year.... I bet I QUIT a job making more 2.5 years ago.

I'll do laundry/dishes ALL day long versus having to go bust ass and make money for someone else.

Can't say I wouldn't do the same if the wife made enough money for both of us.I would be the next one in Sarge's target for cleaning house ect

**0rion** · 12-18-2009, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Brian H Drifer

What did you use to do?

worked for Coca-Cola

**0rion** · 12-18-2009, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

Can't say I wouldn't do the same if the wife made enough money for both of us.I would be the next one in Sarge's target for cleaning house ect

just busting your balls. I'm in a pretty unique situation really and I'll be the first to tell you that it's not a bad gig if you can get it.

**cuervo25_1** · 12-18-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by 0rion

just busting your balls. I'm in a pretty unique situation really and I'll be the first to tell you that it's not a bad gig if you can get it.

I will be honest I told the wife last night to get a damn job making enough where I can retire. That was after she said "Wow the housework has been done all week"

**BdAsBrd01** · 12-18-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by KahanaReef

No.

I second that, NO!

**Mr. Luos** · 12-18-2009, 08:58 PM

As soon as my broke ass finds a good job again....then maybe I will believe it is getting better.

At least school is going well, although lenders aren't giving many personal student loans out right now. Making it hard to stay full-time.

**croslod** · 12-19-2009, 08:27 AM

Nope econ still sucks! Hate to see those GM peeps go down but it's their own fault imo. They let the unions get to greedy. It has happened everywhere even in the little shithole town i live in. Don't get me wrong we need unions the just didn't evolve properly, i work for a non union auto manufacture that hasn't laid any fulltime peeps off and my pay and benefits are were they are because of the unions. Still hate to see anyone loose job.