2010 SS vs SRT 8 Challenger vs Shelby Cobra

**Spaz** · 08-18-2009, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

nope the GT still doesnt quite fit the same catagory as the GT..i think the GT is something really specially..i dont consider the vette a grand touring car

the GT is the top of the line... the ZR1 is the top of the line vette... fits perfectly... both can be considered as exotics...

**snaggeltooth** · 08-18-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

i kind of agree with you...but i will take it one step further..give me a car like the cobra R ..but in muscle car form..give me a 0'11 or 0'12 z28 with no ac..no radio..no nav..just some carpet, a dash and 4 seats ... with a big ass engine..and a killer suspension..no stupid ass 22s that are 9in wide..give me a 17-19 that are a foot wide for 30-40k all day ..that would be one of my dream cars.

thats what I would love to see when the new Coyote engine comes out .. I dont see why they cany have a GT350.. A shelby with a 5.0 ,and a GT500 with SC....

**gwballin** · 08-18-2009, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Spaz

the GT is the top of the line... the ZR1 is the top of the line vette... fits perfectly... both can be considered as exotics...

The Ford GT was the top of the line for Ford.

**Spaz** · 08-18-2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by gwballin

The Ford GT was the top of the line for Ford.

yeah... a whooping 4000 or so made...

**gwballin** · 08-18-2009, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Spaz

yeah... a whooping 4000 or so made...

I just don’t understand why they spent the money developing a very desirable (based on the premiums commanded by dealerships) mid-engine “supercar” that only had a 3 year production run.

**Spaz** · 08-18-2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by gwballin

I just don’t understand why they spent the money developing a very desirable (based on the premiums commanded by dealerships) mid-engine “supercar” that only had a 3 year production run.

me either... they had to have sold well... the dealership up the street from me had a solid black one in thier show room... it was gone in 3 days...

**shady milkman** · 08-18-2009, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by gwballin

I just don’t understand why they spent the money developing a very desirable (based on the premiums commanded by dealerships) mid-engine “supercar” that only had a 3 year production run.

Originally Posted by Spaz

me either... they had to have sold well... the dealership up the street from me had a solid black one in thier show room... it was gone in 3 days...

the GT was to always be a limited run..it was produced for 3 years..to match the 3 years that the gt40 was in racing 1965-1968...also it was rushed and conceived to be part of ford's centennial in 03' ...so that is why it was so limited

**SS man** · 08-18-2009, 02:07 PM

I guess you guys didn't ready the Car and Driver article a few months back when they tested the GT Mustang, SS Camaro, and the Challanger R/T. The gt won that shoot out and they are in the same price range.

Anyways I know that this is an LS1 web site but don't be so closed minded. Each car is good in there own right.

**Spaz** · 08-18-2009, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by SS man

I guess you guys didn't ready the Car and Driver article a few months back when they tested the GT Mustang, SS Camaro, and the Challanger R/T. The gt won that shoot out and they are in the same price range.

Anyways I know that this is an LS1 web site but don't be so closed minded. Each car is good in there own right.

magazine racing... the winner is who pays them the most...

**gwballin** · 08-18-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

the GT was to always be a limited run..it was produced for 3 years..to match the 3 years that the gt40 was in racing 1965-1968...also it was rushed and conceived to be part of ford's centennial in 03' ...so that is why it was so limited

I understand that it was Ford’s intention to have a limited run of the GT but from a business perspective it makes less sense to see that intention through once the car was a hit.

To the extent the engineering, r&d, etc. are sunk costs (those costs in total don’t change if you build/sell 1 GT or 1,000,000 GT’s) why not keep making a popular model that people are buying since unit costs only go down per car for every additional car made?

The GT could still be made in ’04-’06 specs for another 10 years with minor improvements like the NSX and still be a hit in 10 years. Given that they did not replace it with another “supercar” I can’t see the justification for ending production.

**ARM5280** · 08-18-2009, 02:32 PM

After watching that video this is what is learned

Supercharged GT500 $50K plus to be 1/2 second faster than the $32K Camaro yeah its fair...not. What could you do with the 18K dollars left after buying the Camaro.

**gwballin** · 08-18-2009, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by ARM5280

After watching that video this is what is learned

Supercharged GT500 $50K plus to be 1/2 second faster than the $32K Camaro yeah its fair...not. What could you do with the 18K dollars left after buying the Camaro.

Void your warranty?

**310stanger** · 08-18-2009, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Spaz

are you sure about that???

05-06 bro. out of production 3 yrs already

**310stanger** · 08-18-2009, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Spaz

are you sure about that???

ps thats my favorite car overral EVAR. Its super fast, looks incredible, fast as hell, ubermod potential, an engine that can handle over 1,300 horses with a stock bottom end, handles world class, is american, sounds american. Its one of those rare cars that is just something truly special. If i had to think of my ideal performance car, the ford gt is it. Just too bad ill never afford one

**310stanger** · 08-18-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Spaz

magazine racing... the winner is who pays them the most...

so chevy pays for the tests that corvettes win?

**shady milkman** · 08-18-2009, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by gwballin

I understand that it was Ford’s intention to have a limited run of the GT but from a business perspective it makes less sense to see that intention through once the car was a hit.

To the extent the engineering, r&d, etc. are sunk costs (those costs in total don’t change if you build/sell 1 GT or 1,000,000 GT’s) why not keep making a popular model that people are buying since unit costs only go down per car for every additional car made?

The GT could still be made in ’04-’06 specs for another 10 years with minor improvements like the NSX and still be a hit in 10 years. Given that they did not replace it with another “supercar” I can’t see the justification for ending production.

ford wasn't making money on the GT ..it was just a show of technology and so forth i think

**310stanger** · 08-18-2009, 05:01 PM

one other thing, just like shady said, the ford gt was only ever supposed to be 3 yrs, AND even if ford wanted to build it longer, the car didnt meet 07 crash standards and would have taken a bundle of money to conform and would have changed the overral look of the car.

**shady milkman** · 08-18-2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

ps thats my favorite car overral EVAR. Its super fast, looks incredible, fast as hell, ubermod potential, an engine that can handle over 1,300 horses with a stock bottom end, handles world class, is american, sounds american. Its one of those rare cars that is just something truly special. If i had to think of my ideal performance car, the ford gt is it. Just too bad ill never afford one

x2...if i had the money..the GT would be the first car in my garage....if i could only buy 1 car..it would be the GT..that car is a all around performer..and having seen one before up close..is orgasmic

**310stanger** · 08-18-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

ford wasn't making money on the GT ..it was just a show of technology and so forth i think

the control arms were 20k a piece. I'm not sure what it cost to build a ford gt, but I DO know that the dealers made some loot on them. The dealer i worked at sold 3 of them and 2 went for 250k+ the third 175k

**310stanger** · 08-18-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

x2...if i had the money..the GT would be the first car in my garage....if i could only buy 1 car..it would be the GT..that car is a all around performer..and having seen one before up close..is orgasmic

i've ridden in it and almost orgasmed and shit my pants at the same time