part 2 what kind of gun is this.. pics!!

**rbob93** · 11-27-2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by SSwt00SS

this is true for adjustable, not fixed barrel lengths. i left adjustable chokes out of my post since i have no experience with them. just the barrels that having different lengths which in effect changes the choke, which alters the pattern, spread and distance of the pellets once they exit the end of the barrel...

Barrel LENGTH has NOTHING to do with choke!!
Choke is at the muzzle ONLY & squeezes the shot column down a bit to give a denser pattern at longer ranges.

**TMF** · 11-27-2007, 07:56 AM

OK BB99, did a little research for you: your gun is manufactured by Stevens/Savage and it's a good gun, typically this was a goose gun, but with it being a 20ga with buckhorn sights, it's probably more suited for deer. If you want to shoot slugs, I recommend using Federal "vital-shock" truball rifled slugs.

**SSwt00SS** · 11-27-2007, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by rbob93

Barrel LENGTH has NOTHING to do with choke!!
Choke is at the muzzle ONLY & squeezes the shot column down a bit to give a denser pattern at longer ranges.

we are both correct to an extent, myself not near as much as you. they affect each other just not enough that some feel it makes a difference...

i know a 24" barrel can throw out the same pattern and distance of a 34" barrel depending on the choke, etc...

Barrel length and shot spread

The length of a shotgun barrel does not significantly affect the pattern or spread of the pellets. The pattern is primarily impacted by the type of cartridge fired and the choke, or constriction normally found at the muzzle of a shotgun barrel. Cutting off the end of the barrel will remove the choke, which generally only extends about two inches (about 5 cm) inward from the muzzle. This results in a cylinder bore, which causes the widest spread generally found in shotgun barrels. For an even wider pattern, special "spreader chokes" or "spreader loads" can be used, that are designed to spread the shot further. (See choke for more information on the impact of chokes. See shotgun shell for information on spreader loads.)...

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawed-off_shotgun

**94z28l** · 11-27-2007, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by SSwt00SS

Orion, I'm heading back to West Texas for deer hunting this weekend. I got a new Remington 710 .270 ready to go. I have it sighted for 100yrds and i put 9 rounds of 130 grain ammo in a 1.5" square...

as for the OP's 20ga shotgun. it is not recommended that you shoot a slug through a non-rifled full choke barrel. full choke refers to the length of that specific barrel. that means it will throw a tighter group of pellets farther than if you were using a modified barrel for example. a full choke barrel you would want to use for trap shooting, modified barrel for skeet, and improved barrel for clay pigeons. you base your barrel selection on what your target is. for example i have a Remington 1100 12ga w/a full choke barrel that i only use from trap shooting. if i wanted to use it for skeet shooting the results would not be good. i would have to go out and buy an modified barrel since its shorter to allow the shotguns pellets to spread out over a shorter distance because of the close range you are at when skeet shooting and it weighs less to allow you to swing faster to lead the target...

the threee types are: modified, improved and full choke are the 3 different lengths shotgun barrels come in. i hope this helps you out...

not tryin to instigate shit, but why?

**SSwt00SS** · 11-27-2007, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by 94z28l

not tryin to instigate shit, but why?

why what...? you just highlighted the rifle i bought, why? you need to be more specific in what it is youre asking me...

**94z28l** · 11-27-2007, 11:34 AM

just wondering why you picked the 710

**SSwt00SS** · 11-27-2007, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by 94z28l

just wondering why you picked the 710

for me personally, the Remington line has worked for me in regards to firearms (either owned or fired), and when i went last year I used a Remington .222 that was not my own. I had looked at the 710 model for quite sometime and also felt that a .270 caliber was a good size in regards to the size of the deer out in west texas. i didnt find it necessary to go with a larger caliber and risk 'taking out' more than needed for a kill.

also, for a smaller, lighter, more compact field rifle, the 710 is extremely accurate and reliable in all weather conditions. for me it was a good fit. plus picking it up for $325 brand new w/scope was an added bonus...

**94z28l** · 11-27-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by SSwt00SS

for me personally, the Remington line has worked for me in regards to firearms (either owned or fired), and when i went last year I used a Remington .222 that was not my own. I had looked at the 710 model for quite sometime and also felt that a .270 caliber was a good size in regards to the size of the deer out in west texas. i didnt find it necessary to go with a larger caliber and risk 'taking out' more than needed for a kill.

also, for a smaller, lighter, more compact field rifle, the 710 is extremely accurate and reliable in all weather conditions. for me it was a good fit. plus picking it up for $325 brand new w/scope was an added bonus...

i got one in .270 too and the damn bolt seizes up with any kind of side to side motion i know that one is partially due to the liner thats inside of the receiver and i have this issue with the 2nd round in the magazine jamming when the bring the action forward, any problem like that with yours?

**SSwt00SS** · 11-27-2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by 94z28l

i got one in .270 too and the damn bolt seizes up with any kind of side to side motion i know that one is partially due to the liner thats inside of the receiver and i have this issue with the 2nd round in the magazine jamming when the bring the action forward, any problem like that with yours?

no, i have not encountered that problem. before i fired the rifle, i took it apart cleaned it, lubed and oiled the hell out of it...

**94z28l** · 11-27-2007, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by SSwt00SS

no, i have not encountered that problem. before i fired the rifle, i took it apart cleaned it, lubed and oiled the hell out of it...

did the same thing first thing i did when i got it, put a magazine through it, jammed on the second, repeated tear down and cleaning and put another magazine through it didnt do it that time but when i cycled some through it just with out firing it will do it on occasion

***doberman 152*** · 11-27-2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by TMF

OK BB99, did a little research for you: your gun is manufactured by Stevens/Savage and it's a good gun, typically this was a goose gun, but with it being a 20ga with buckhorn sights, it's probably more suited for deer. If you want to shoot slugs, I recommend using Federal "vital-shock" truball rifled slugs.

i was leanin twords mossburg 20ga. ?

**bad boy 99** · 11-27-2007, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by TMF

OK BB99, did a little research for you: your gun is manufactured by Stevens/Savage and it's a good gun, typically this was a goose gun, but with it being a 20ga with buckhorn sights, it's probably more suited for deer. If you want to shoot slugs, I recommend using Federal "vital-shock" truball rifled slugs.

OK lots of hijacking here, anyway where did you get this info TMF? im just courious, and wtf are thoes shells your talking about? are they big,small? weak? stout?.. or was it a joke? lol

**94z28l** · 11-27-2007, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by doberman 152

i was leanin twords mossburg 20ga. ?

which one? they got some nice stuff but some of it is on the lower end.

**TMF** · 11-28-2007, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by bad boy 99

OK lots of hijacking here, anyway where did you get this info TMF? im just courious, and wtf are thoes shells your talking about? are they big,small? weak? stout?.. or was it a joke? lol

No joke, my Father has an FFL and "knows" firearms. Nothin special about the slugs, just the latest tech for that gun.