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I've been having fuel issues and my tuner can't tune my car to it's potential until i get more fuel. So i'm going to swap the fuel pump and probably the fuel filter again just in case. I don't know if there is much more i can do. is it easier to take out the back seat and cut through the metal to access it from the top or should i just drop the tank? is there a write up on how to make an access point for the fuel pump?
DROP THE TANK!!!!
No other way to do it.
While it is down, clean it up. Worth the extra hour.
i just found a write up on ls1tech that tells you how to cut the metal above the tank. my dad and i think it will be easier. we will still empty the tank as much as possible and we have a very powerful air compressor to blow out any sediment.
if i were to take it out, how do you recommend cleaning it?
no argument sorry Luos... may an access port, if you do it properly its not bad at all and then you can re-access your fuel pump in very little time if something goes wrong again... much better decission...
no one will ever know its there... much better decission... if the day comes for my car I know exactly which course I'm taking...
With water. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1
It is plastic tank.
DO NOT CUT YOUR BODY UP!
hmmm, my dad didn't recommend using water... to each his own i guess. i know what you mean about cutting it up... but my car is nothing special especially since i just past 72K! i like the idea of making an access door so it's much easier next time. my friend said his prelude came with one from the factory as most cars do. but as you all know, GM doesn't keep convenience in mind
i cut the hole.......it was a very fast way to get it done.....i made a cover for the hole at work and screwed it down.......bingo done 1.5 hrs total
That part of the car is support. No way would I cut it.
I cleaned out my tank with water. Dried it out, and then let it sit for a few hours upside down.
Once the 'bucket' the pump is in is removed, the tank is nothing but plastic.
Just because something is easier, doesn't make it the right way to do it.
true...but it does make it easier.........:lmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Luos
I'd have to agree with Luos. I would NEVER EVER cut a hole just to make it a little easier...
not a little....a gang easier:yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by squee
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Originally Posted by Mr. Luos
i agree...
i just hate how most other cars have these trap doors stock. i also don't need as much support as Mr. Luos does with 531 rwhp. I won't have numbers like that for years! my dad is also great with doing things like this and he'll probably figure something out to keep the structural integrity.
Ever stop and think about why ours don't???Quote:
Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1
Could it be that there wasn't a safe way? Or just GM being lazy? Or a little of both?
sub frame connectors..:yup:...weld inQuote:
Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1
you should make a poll on this......:lmao: a=lazy b=safetyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Luos
I think the support is more side to side. :yup:
I am too lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by astyles
now thats a safe answer........:flex:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Luos
not twist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Luos
That too. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by astyles
Not really thinking much at this time of the day.
I'd rather do it the right way and not be a lazy ass. And I'm pretty damn lazy...
got ya beat there.......:lmao:......besides i had to get mine done quick because it's my dd and i have np garage to work in......so it needed to be done fast and i am never gonna race it so.......Quote:
Originally Posted by squee
i'm thinking i'll probably just make an access panel.. but we'll see, cuz i dont even have the pump yet. btw, i do have weld in SFC and my dad didn't think h2o was a good idea cuz he didn't know it was a plastic tank...
Hmm. sparks and fuel kinda scares me.
I dropped my tank several times.
1999-2002 had plastic fuel tanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1
Really quite easy to pull down too.
just cut it
I had my car up on my dads lift before I ordered the fuel pump and was researching this access panel method, If you don't care about your car go for it. Since I was going to be waiting on the pump to arrive, just like you, I just went ahead and pulled my exhaust, lowered the rear end and unbolted the straps holding the tank. I had 10 gallons left of gas though, so I had to take it back down to the ground, then lowered my tank down. It's not hard, just a little time consuming.
basically, if I were you, (waiting on a pump) I would go ahead and drop the tank.
well i plan to empty my tank out before any cutting so i can clean it out. my dad has a crazy air compressor that can blow out whatever sediment is in there. i want to drive the car still so that's why i havent dropped the tank while i'm waiting for the pump. i still haven't decided what method do go with yet tho. what do you mean by lowering the rear end? like lowering the 10 bolt?? or just the back end of the car?
Oh well if your still wanting to drive your car around then I would probably just do an access panel. My pump went out completely, so I just pulled it in my dads garage and lifted it to start wrenching on it. If you put your frame on jacks and not the rear axle, you can pull the wheels off and probably have enough room to squeeze the tank out. I left it at my dads and when I was at work he went ahead and dropped the axle for me.
Me and a buddy dropped my tank, switched out, and had everything back together in 3.5 hours. Worth the extra effort IMO to not have to go through cutting and risking cutting gas line kaboom
i wouldnt cut my car up thats my .02:nono:
No chopping for me either. I am going to drop the tank and clean it. Worth it when the time comes. Just my .02
Once the exhaust is out of the way. Its pretty easy.
I'd drop the tank too. I think you could clean it out 10 times better if it were out of the car.
BTW Cadillac Deville and Sevilles have an access door in the trunk for the fuel pump.
I cut the panel open, its just a 7x7 in piece and is easy to rig up a hing and lock for it and to have a permenant access
This "crazy" compressor is going to blow all the sediment out of the tank and into your interior? The smell of gas in my interior is not what i'm looking for.:ughlaugh:
One thing I would think about is how many fuel pumps do you expect to be putting in over the life of the car? I mean most people will change out the pump once and that is it. You said you don't race it so unless you really go to some high horsepower motor I don't see why the door would really be a requirement. That being said I would say keep the structural integrity of the car in its stock form.
Again another IMHO.
I know lots of people that just cut access panels.
The 98's had metal gas tanks not plastic.....but still....I wouldn't cut your car up to just get to the fuel pump. But, to each their own.....
mmmCUT my car CUT my fu333IG CAR NO THAT DoESENT SOUND RITE ATALL just drop the tank
I really don't see how that part of the body is providing any critical structural support of the car. Its directly in the center, and its really nothing more than sheet metal. Common sense says that if there was any real force acting upon that section, it would bent and twist up like paper anyway. So I really don't see it being a problem.
Either way works, the trap door just makes servicing the pump much easier.
In the time it would take to cut a nice clean proper hole, seal the metal so it won't rust (ie clean , prime and paint) then mount the cover, you could have the tank out and replaced in the same time.
Just my 02 cents and the will to do things the right way.
to each his own,
just my choise
Johnny
FUEL PUMP ACCESS DOOR
http://www.geocities.com/formulapower2/fuelpump.html