So how do you feel about that ??
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So how do you feel about that ??
damn ricers.... who won the race? I didn't catch any of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
Clint Boyer won the race ... Denny Hamlin was totally dominating 9/10 of it though ...
I think its awesome. I hope he breaks Jeff Burton's streak for most races in between victories. :lol:
they made the point that if Denny had not stoped at the top of the track, blew a tire , that NASCAR would not have thrown the yellow and Jr would have won the race goin away
this is not just a racing deal............its happened plenty of times. He has no respect for other drivers. Time for somebody to give him an on the track lesson
Dispain was saying he acts a lot like that old number 3 used to ..
sr didnt wreck as many as people say, he just put them in a position that they wrecked themselves...........sr also had a huge off track presence to keep people in line :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
Checkers or wreckers, Bring home the trophy or the steering wheel. Screw all the gentlemanly stuff. This is stock car racing. Go to any local shorttrack and see the same thing every saturday. Heck, people kill each other for a lot less money than is at stake here. I like Jr. but if I had a team I would hire Kyle if I could.
As far as someone giving it back to him, they gotta catch him first.
make no mistake about it E used to wreck people all the time .. just ask Terry LaBonte or Rusty Wallace .. As far as off trak Kyle is still very young ... Remember he was in the point lead in Cup, Busch, and trucks at one time ..Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedAddict38
Not that I am a big fan of his ...just takeing the other side of a point ..
E bumped a few out of the way, but I just took a quote from Davey Allisions interview about what he said E didQuote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
yes Kyle is very young and has lots to learn
what would they be saying if Jr had bumped Kyle into the wall to win the race ..." well thats just racing " ???
Is this Nascar? Nascar we're talking about here? Then I feel good about it, crashes make it interesting. Actually, not really interesting... Just less boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
prob .. but I dont think many people would talk about the MOTOGP race today ....:yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
jr would flat say I made a mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
Not Jr himself .. What would Jr nation be saying ??Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedAddict38
they would say put his punk azz in the wall again...........hes my fav but hes just 2 nice sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
still same old line .. its ok if your guy puts someone in the wall but is a felony if someone does it to them...
Poor Jr. He inherited some shoes that he will never fill.
oh well! i hate kb but ive seen jrs old man put terry labonte in the wall at bristol twice (95 and 97)
good drama for the next few weeks lolQuote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
sure cant..........nobody couldQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobby97SS
E was just trying to get his attention .....:blah:Quote:
Originally Posted by twozs
thats why they called him "ironhead"
the best I could tell by watching all the replays was that Jr pinched him down there. If KB had a run going into the corner then jr should've gave him room. If jr was faster then he would've been in front of KB and not along side of him when he went spinning up into the wall. KB does remind me somewhat of the old man because he's not afraid of what the fans or nascar will say.....he just wants to win. Everyone else is happy with a top 5.
The old man wrecked plenty of people. I guess everyone here is probably to new of a fan to remember the old man and waltrip banging fenders back in the day. In those early years those 2 really had a thing going. He wrecked plenty of people and in the end that's what got him the most respect from the fans and other drivers is because he wanted to win bad enough that he done whatever it took. I see some of that in KB, he just needs to mature and learn to pick his battles.
I'm not a die hard Jr fan- But I absolutely hate K-Y-le Busch. He is a snot nose little punk, who drives reckless-- yes He is a good driver at times. But he has no regard for clean racing. I honestly think he could have passed Dale Jr before the race was over- But no-- He had to be good old Kyle Dip shit Busch and get in an accident, when he had a faster car anyways.
Was it intentional ... No--- But could he have shown more caution and probably still pulled out a victory. Yeah..
When you are within 10 laps- and someone has a run on -- You don't give up the position, because he caught a slight better line off a turn. So Dale did nothing wrong.
If I remember correctly- Dale Jr was riding the Mid/ to High line all day-- Kyle was fairly low all day-- so the fact that Kyle happen to need to ride up that high on the track for that particular run is non-sense.
Kyle is only 23 yrs old and already has people who absolutely hate him.. Most people don't even know a typical 23 year old persons name in the sport-- But he already has a name for himself. Partly for being a good driver-- but alot of his notoriety comes from being a dick head on the track.
I have always kept my eye on the sport, but probably started following more closely about two years ago.
good post :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jrc1122
X2!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedAddict38
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by jrc1122
I hope KB has a 3rd run-in with Smoke, cause it ain't gonna be pretty~
Oh, and I think that this was the last race that Jr. will play nice with KB. Next time Jr. will get him loose without contact and let KB kiss the wall!
SR didnt wreck people like that. sr moved people when they were in the way. kyle wrecks people when they give him room. sr never wrecked people unless they didnt give him room. jr gave kyle half the track and still got wrecked. nascar wont do anything about it so maybe jr will grow a set and take care of this punk ass on the track. hopefully more than once.
when i saw that happend, i just stood up, and walked away. i had to. i was very very pissed off.
man, you could tell how dissapointed Jr. was with his after race interview. man, he was so close. if he hadn't asked for the crewchief totighten him up so much, he would have been able to stay down and win.....damn.
you gotta feel bad for Hamlin though. he should've won for real. its a shame to see a badass racecar get taken out like that...
bulls eye :bomb:Quote:
Originally Posted by red99ws6
So then he purpously parks his car on the track! :toetap:Quote:
Originally Posted by nitrorustler41
and got a 2 lap penelty :kick:Quote:
Originally Posted by 9t8z28
Why not. He tried to stay out and fucked himself, so he figured, why not help KB.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedAddict38
maybe Karma will come back around to both of themQuote:
Originally Posted by 9t8z28
Can't stand the Buschs they are both cocky, arrogant pricks. Not saying their not good drivers they just need attitude adjustments. Jr's time is coming he's had some good runs and was a contender to win several races last season before his engine puked out on him. I'd say that since Jr's up in the points he's handled the pressure to perform at Hendricks pretty good so far this year.
least you remember the night at bristol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEsCpXZAuVgQuote:
Originally Posted by SpeedAddict38
3rd place right now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crashx10
a better view of the crown prince, maybe his son should have taken a lesson from dad (i used to love espn coverage)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGICM9qtwdo
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Originally Posted by jrc1122
sure he did, he drove his car backwards into the wall. :lol:
few clips for the newbs.
3 vs waltrip
3 vs wallace
3 vs labonte
Don't be alarmed by a couple of those videos.....they're actually racing in them because they're in real cars. They also don't slow down when there's a caution.....they had to race back to the line in those days.
dale never wrecked anyone.......yeah right. People just had a habit of slowing down into his front bumper I guess.
most people always make an excuse for Dale SR ... I dint know why it was ok for him to wreck people like he did .. I guess when your making as much money for NA SCAR as he did you get a ' red carpet; treatmentQuote:
Originally Posted by 0rion
sorry was too busy watching auto racing that actually requires talent rather than just drafting and left turns. lol
Would have asked about the ROLEX race , but dont think as many people watched it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by rapter34
+1 :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by rapter34
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Originally Posted by rapter34
yeah 180 mph inches from another vehicle doing the same speed-where every lb of pressure in the tires changes the entire ride and handling of the car takes no talent.. :rolleyes:
Just because other types of racing requires turning the wheel in two directions instead of one,doesn't mean it doesn't take skill to drive in NASCAR.
Not to mention they DO have road courses in NASCAR now.
"I always want to win. That is my only passion."
- Kimi Raikkonen
ya its so easy anybody could do it..............when shall we see you on TV ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rapter34
I think the better question is.......... When shall we see nascar drivers off the TV? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedAddict38
answer- neverQuote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
im not saying NASCAR does not take skills it just other auto sports require a lot more skill than NASCAR, and a lot more entertaining to watch in my opinion. seeing corvettes, Ferrari's and Porsche's race side by side is amazing. Back when NASCAR had cars that you could buy now that was cool... to bad i was too young too see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDS8zgOrlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQXUB...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWtQwjerwL4
this was friday before he wrecked jr. crazy what he says and nascar does nothing. fuck that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc8DF2j4ZTo
"i'll wreck as many as i need to"
Why does it take more skill????????Quote:
Originally Posted by rapter34
OK.I waited a while to see if anyone brought this up but no one has. Just so happens that Kyle wrecked the car he was just fired from. Maybe it has nothing to do with Jr. but more like thumbing his nose at the team that dumped him. I can totally relate to that.
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Originally Posted by Bobby97SS
You can relate?? WTF
It was a business move- It happens all the time in sports, people get traded or switch teams, or become free agents all the time.
K-Y le busch needs to grow up (literally) -- He looks like boy wonder.
-BrakingQuote:
Originally Posted by 9t8z28
-Downshifting
-Lining up for mutliple curves (Right as well as left!)
-Less road area
-Driving on different surfaces with the same tire
etc etc.
how many times during the race do they get bumped at 180+mph? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Not often; they don't need crashes to keep their fans' attention :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 0rion
Well, I feel kinda bad for all 5 of the open wheel fans in the country because they've lost so many drivers to nascar. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Racing is racing!!! It happens. I liked it when Senior was around and did it!! HAHA
Me and the other four guys switch off sending in lot's a fake letters from different "fans"... it's all we can do to keep it on TV...Quote:
Originally Posted by 0rion
the thing NASCAR has over Sports cars is most NASCAR tracks are like giant Stadiums.. So the fans can see almost all the race at all times ... With the IRL and CART getting back together , if they would just have a show or 2 on speed or ESPN 2 where more people could put a face with a car , then they would go up .. One of these days I am gong to catch a IRL race as Nashville :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
I'm not worried about it. The only races I watch are the Formula One World Championship ones, and they get 55 million live TV viewers for each race.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
In how many countries .??Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
does it matter?
it just means that F1 is more of a global sport where if you ask anyone from around the world about NASCAR its hard for them to keep a straight face.
Well, nascar sells out venues and cart and irl give tickets away at the gate so the stands wont be empty.
I guess thats why some of the top stars from F1 want to go NASCAR racing ..Quote:
Originally Posted by rapter34
The reason they are going over to NASCAR is because there is more money there. im not debating the fact that NASCAR is very popular I just can't stand to watch it thats all. give me a race at Le Mans or and F1 race, but to each his own. P.S. I still think the best entertainment to time ratio is drag. a whole can of whoop ass in 4.5 sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
Over two hundred. IMO that's more impressive than what NASCAR has accomplished.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
I actually preferred nascar before it got popular. I knew when I saw the first celebrity in the pits that the sport was gonna take a turn for the worse. Fox completely wrecked the way nascar is being covered and the other stations followed in their shoes. Nascar itself has taken away from it's own sport by some of the rules and bullshit they've done in the last 15 years.
I see that you are only 19 years old. Thats cool cause you are young. Have you ever raced? Do you know the skill that it takes to go 180+ mph and have people bump you or turn all directions going 200+ mph? If so than ok but if not then you have really no say of the skill that it take to drive these cars. I have done many auto cross races in my old Trans Am and have done the Richard Petty driving experince at the LVMS and they are too very differnent typs of raceing. They both take alot of skill to drive and both very demanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Also have you ever thought as to why drivers are all trying to get into NASCAR? Think about it. All racing is great but in my opinion and as much of the country is that NACSAR is true American Raceing.
lets not turn this into a NASCAR bashing thread..
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Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Braking-- have you ever watched a NASCAR race? The brakes practically glow, especially on a short track.
Downshifting-- Umm Road courses utilize downshifts all the time
multiple curves- again, road courses.
Downshifting with a paddle! Oww!Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
beacause their aren't any(fans)Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Dont be so sure CUP has come a long way in just about 20 years ,, Remember in the 80s all of the races wasn't even being televised .. I think NASCAR became this monster after Sped Vision turned into SPEED TV .. Now back when it was SPEED Vision ..those were the days ..Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
back when ESPN televised almost all the races in the 80s and 90s with bob Jenkins, bp, and Ned Jarret and Larry neuber, before they put the chicane in the back stretch at Watkins glen, before pit road speeds, when bristol sat 16,000 people, when there were 5 short track in the season those were the days ! as soon as fox got a hold or it it was over . just like the NFL broadcasts they turned it into a circus
more money for all, and more job for us here. i guess i don't see the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by twozs
:dunno: :nana:
speaking of pit road speeds .. arent as many people still getting hit in the pits as they used to?? Did like 3 guys get hit at the last race ...????Quote:
Originally Posted by twozs
irl two. two weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
Dude got his foot RUN OVER ... WTF??Quote:
Originally Posted by 1fastcamarosss11
To all you people that think stockcar racing is easy, just turn left, I have a suggestion. Buy or build a street stock, hot stock or bomber and go race at your local short track. You WILL leave with your tail between your legs and red with embaressment. Matbe after a season you can stay on the same lap as the good guys.
:yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby97SS
almost his whole body, if he didn't get up so fast. he said after the race he told the crew in front of him that the guy got close two times before. poor guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
Damn, he won another one!
he is on a rollQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobby97SS
KB almost took out Biffle at the beginning of the race for no reason! What an A-hole!
exactly-- He is a great driver no doubt about it,, but he is also an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by 9t8z28
Blah Blah Blah,, number 3 did the same thing.. blah blah....
He don't carry the fan base, the clout, or the respect in this sport at age 23 to be driving like that.
If you are going to win lot of races ... you are going to have to piss people off ... I dont mind haveing a good bad guy up front ... I hate Stewart , not because ofhis driveing because of what he says and how he says it ... NASCAR needs someone to stir up the water and add something to the races ... Just like Pro Wrestling discoved many many years ago .. people will pay to watch a bad guy lose more than a good guy win ...
Obviously you havent followed the sport for years or you would know that most people hated DE. And DW. It wasnt until years into thier careers that they became heros.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrc1122
Both aforementioned drivers "drove like that". Its thier job.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...eltooth/EI.jpg
remember this guy .. He used to wreck people all the time ..
finally someone that actually knows how it used to be. I remember when people couldn't stand DW.....he was loud, cocky, and arrogant. People also though DE was an asshole that wrecked people to win races. That's just how it was. The more I watch Kyle Busch the more I like him. He reminds me of how nascar used to be before all the pretty product models started driving cars. He's there to win and doesn't care what he has to do to get the win. The more people dislike him the more it makes me want to pull for him. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobby97SS
ahhhh the one eyed wonder..... swervin' Irvin. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by snaggeltooth
remember this guy .. He used to wreck people all the time ..
as far as open wheel taking more talent, if that were so then why do the best open-wheelers struggle to just make a nascar event. and if they do make it they dont last long. Montoya does have a win but damn he tears up a lot of race cars. the rest of them dont even look mediocre. they look terrible
Maybe so-- but I stand by the fact that KY-Busch is a prick and a whinny little snot nose brat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby97SS
Maybe DE was a whinny little baby-- maybe that is just how 23 year old race car drivers act. But I wasn't watching when DE was a 23 year old driver.
I don't care for it, no matter who it comes from.
But the Busch brother's especially annoy me.
PS-- why they hell couldn't Douche Bag Busch keep his car off the wall when he was out front with a 3 - 4 second lead? I was praying he would have a fender cut a tire and he would finish 22nd+
he was trying to level the playing field for the other 42 cars. He thought maybe if he had to pit and drop back to 22nd again it might give someone else a chance to lead while he races his way back to the front.......again. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by jrc1122
No doubt he had a fast ass car that day-- I still dislike him :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 0rion
lol
