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Here are my picks, what does everyone else think.
Matt Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre, TKO round 3
Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva, KO in Rd. 2
Lyoto Machida vs Rameau Sokoudjou, sub round 2
Rich Clementi vs. Melvin Guillard, round 2 ko
Soa Palalei vs. Eddie Sanchez split decision
Luis Cane vs. James Irvin, by TKO round 2
Nate Mohr vs. Manny Gamburyan TKO round 1
Jordan Radev vs. Dean Lister, sub in round 1
Roan Carneiro vs. Tony DeSouza ud
Mark Bocek vs. Doug Evans Ud
I'd like to see Chuck and Matt win....but I'm probably wrong
Matt Hughes all the way. Then he'll walk out and grab Joe Rogan then punt him in to the nose bleeds.
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I was waiting for this thread I will just do the televised card: :wwf:
Matt Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre, GSP KO (strikes) round 2
Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva, Wandy KO (strikes) round 1
Lyoto Machida vs Rameau Sokoudjou, Terry (Sokoudjou) ref stoppage GnP round 3
Rich Clementi vs. Melvin Guillard, Melvin TKO (strikes) round 1
Soa Palalei vs. Eddie Sanchez, Palalei by judges decision
sorry guys, i dont see how your really think that hughes can beat GSP, (except by a lucky shot) i would be very suprised to see GSP lose to him.
Matt Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre, GSP KTFO round 3
Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva, Wandy KO round 1
Lyoto Machida vs Rameau Sokoudjou,Full match
Rich Clementi vs. Melvin Guillard, KO round 2
Soa Palalei vs. Eddie Sanchez, KO round 3
sweeeeeet! My wife ordered the fights on PPV for me for my bday (nye) wooot!
I get to watch them at home for once!
..............why does joe rogain always wear the exact same shirt?? always, very weird
So are you going to keep us posted on the results :)
Clementi defeats Guillard by rear naked choke at the very end of the 1st...and then proceeds to talk aaalll kinds of shit lol
Lyoto Machida defeats Rameau Sokoudjou in the 2nd by arm triangle
I thought guillard wouldve won. Oh well.
up next
Soa Palalei vs. Eddie Sanchez
Eddie Sanchez defeats Soa Palalei in the 3rd by TKO/Ref stoppage
Nice slug fest so far. Chuck took round 1 for sure!
onto round 2!
holy shit!! silva is bleeding bad! 2nd round was better for SIlva but I think Chuck took that one too!
round 3 :woot:
wow! awesome fight! goes the distance
Chuck over Silva unanimous decision
GSP worked Hughes the whole fight. wins by arm bar last seconds of the 2nd
Damn i sucked it up...only one right. o well still fun watching and hanging out with the team. I think hughes will retire, after his little speech there at the end about his book, hes done...chuck i thought for sure was gonna knock him out twards the end of both the second and third.
great card, and as said before i didnt think there was any way that hughes could beat GSP, great fight between chuck and wandy. One of the best so far, im not really looking forward to the next PPV as i lost all respect for Penn because of the way he was talking about Sherk, but the one after that is when we get to see Lesnar make is debut and the return of Mir I CANT WAIT.
I really wanted wanderlei to win. A rematch between Rampage and Silva would've been great. But it was a good fight regardless. Chuck fought this one smart and deserved the win. I thought he was going to do the same old stuff he's been doing, but he did takedowns, he kept his hands up, he used leg kicks. It was a pleasure seeing GSP dominate hughes so thoroughly through.
Hughes is my boy but I was really let down with his showing. It was like he wasn’t even there. I had a good feeling the GSP was going to take it. Hughes has even said that he doesnt want to fight anymore. He is much happier working his farm and taking care of his family. Much respect to Silva, that guy has a head like a fire hydrant
+1 it was an excellent card.Quote:
Originally Posted by ice97ta
It was a relief that Wandy had a great preformance even in the loss.
After Sokoudjou came in with the Predator mask and was owned I was happy not all former Pride fighters are tomato cans.
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Hughes will have one fight left with Serra for his farewell as GSP with get the belt back and they can have their 'gudge match'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soltakr
Also an MMA note the 'Freak show in Japan' is completed with Fedor (David) defeating HMC (Goliath) in the first round:
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Hopefully the Randy vs. Fedor fight comes to pass in 2008! :xfingers:
Dayum, that Fedor is a machine. Do you think Randy can beat him?Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnWheels
I'd love to see Sylvia get his ass handed to him by Fedor.
so im guessing fedor won, anyone have a link
UFC 79
I thought the card sucked. Seriously, almost all the fights except Liddells and GSPs were boring.
About Silva/Liddell, I thought either it was rigged or Silva wasnt 100%. Where was his fire? Even in his last losses, he had more energy than this shit. Plus, I noticed his 'drive' dramatically dropped after he knocked Liddell on his ass twice (one was a slip). Anyone notice that? He backed up after he hit him on the button! What, cuz hes still used to Pride's rules? If thats so, he still wouldve charged him after he knocked him down. Kinda fucking fishy. Silvas reach was dramatically shorter than Liddells, but some of Silvas swings looked pulled back. Bottom line, when you look at this from a business stand point, why let UFCs grandchild (Liddell) lose against an opponent that was always believed to beat him if they ever matched up? Especially a guy that hasnt made a substantial history in the UFC...? I could be wrong, but if I am, Silva was not fighting like he normally does.
As far as the Hughes/GSP fight went....I CALLED THAT FUCKING SHIT!!!!! Hughes was done before he entered the octagon! Fuck him! Total domination. And I loved it. I never thought he was a great figher at all from the beginning and now after seeing the latest show, my reasons for not liking him are now complete. I raced home, sobered up, and watched that shit again on the internet (watched the liddell fight too on You Tube while it was up)
I love GSP, but I really wanted to see Serra fight Hughes. I love a hated fight.
Yeah I saw the Fedor fight on YouTube. I am convinced he is the greatest fighter ever. He got fucked up in a minute and a half, but I cant believe he beat that giant pile of shit down. That monster he fought has like ZERO ground game I believe..Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnWheels+1 it was an excellent card.
It was a relief that Wandy had a great preformance even in the loss.
After Sokoudjou came in with the Predator mask and was owned I was happy not all former Pride fighters are tomato cans.
Hughes will have one fight left with Serra for his farewell as GSP with get the belt back and they can have their 'gudge match'.
Also an MMA note the 'Freak show in Japan' is completed with Fedor (David) defeating HMC (Goliath) in the first round:
Hopefully the Randy vs. Fedor fight comes to pass in 2008! :xfingers:
Oh and that predator mask thing...you cant do that in the ufc :lol: Almost everyone loses if they come out wearing a mask.
You cannot ever count Randy out as that is when he proves the entire world wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by FasstChevys
He will be the underdog against Fedor but he still has a chance against the Terminator:
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The Fedor fight was a freak show imo nothing more. HMC had one MMA fight so he had no business in the ring against the p4p fighter on the planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA
He should lose that title (read: GOAT = greatest of all time) unless the randy fight happens in 2008 imo.
If Fedor continues to fight 'cans not ranked in the top 100 then GSP could easily take the p4p title away.
I really do not see anyone in the same class as GSP at WW in the world.
He has some fights left for sure. I will go to Montreal in april if indeed, the UFC comes to Canada as many of my friends have records and cannot go into the USA (read: Vegas) to see a live fight.
I see maybe Fitch being the next fight (after Serra) but then who is next?
It would be nice if GSP goes up to MW and fights the winner of Andy Silva vs Hendo for a 'mega fight'
Has GSP always been a WW?
All this talk about Randy vs. Couture is getting old. I mean, where is Randy? Is he even training? If he wants to fight Fedor so badly, cant he go to HIM? I want to see it as much as anyone else, but I do believe age will catch up him eventually. When it does, you got millions of fans saying "they should fought when he was in his prime." I dont blame them.
It actually reminds me of all teh Silva vs. Liddell talk years ago. I dont think anyone spoke about Fedor vs. anyone in particuliar cuz there wasnt any real good HWs in UFC back then. Randy was a LW and the HWs that were available were Slobbed out Sylvia, Monson, Mir, and one hopeful which was Arlowski (sp?).
I was pissed that Liddell won, but when GSP not only won, but DESTROYED Hughes, I was amazed. I went fucking ape shit when it looked like he was going to take Hughes out the same way he lost (Kimora; ep?). I hoisted up my boss (who is a 120lb 25 year old girl) above my head and cheered.
Some asshole next to me tried to do the same thing with another girl, but he wasnt strong enough (or too drunk) and both of them dropped to the beer covered floor of Hooters, Gainesville, FL. :usa:
I'm a chuck fan, SO I am glad to see him win. I don't think that fight was 'rigged' -- I think Vanderla (spelling?) got rocked and then got scared. He has a tough chin, I'll give him that -- I will also give it to Liddell - because he had a few strong punches come his way too.
I hate GSP ( I don't really even have a reason, but I do) -- I also don't care for Hughes,
I was hoping Hughes would win, but I knew that was doubtful.
The other fights were crap.
Yes GSP has always fought at WW. But he is 'huge' for that wieght imo so it could be a p4p match against himself and Andy.
I used to think GSP had the best striking skillz of the division, but know I think he also has the best wrestling/judo of all the ww's in the world!!
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Fedor is not human....
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
I'm a Chuck fan too and of course, I'm glad he won. He definitely controlled the fight and Silva has a steel chin. I was amazed the fight went the distance, I thought for sure one would knock the other out.
I think Hughes was beat before he ever walked in. I picked GSP to win, but I (as you did) didn't think he'd dominate him that badly.
Honestly u thought it sucked? it was one of the best the UFC had in a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA
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Originally Posted by SexOnWheelsYou cannot ever count Randy out as that is when he proves the entire world wrong.
He will be the underdog against Fedor but he still has a chance against the Terminator:
The Fedor fight was a freak show imo nothing more. HMC had one MMA fight so he had no business in the ring against the p4p fighter on the planet.
He should lose that title (read: GOAT = greatest of all time) unless the randy fight happens in 2008 imo.
If Fedor continues to fight 'cans not ranked in the top 100 then GSP could easily take the p4p title away.
I really do not see anyone in the same class as GSP at WW in the world.
He has some fights left for sure. I will go to Montreal in april if indeed, the UFC comes to Canada as many of my friends have records and cannot go into the USA (read: Vegas) to see a live fight.
I see maybe Fitch being the next fight (after Serra) but then who is next?
It would be nice if GSP goes up to MW and fights the winner of Andy Silva vs Hendo for a 'mega fight'
No, I don't think Fedor can lose the greatest of all time title like that. It doesn't matter what happens next, if he goes on to beat up little old ladies for the rest of his life. Nobody else has a record like his and GOAT is based on a guys record. And it has to be someone. If not fedor, than who? He was like a god up until a year or two ago. The record he built during that time is without a doubt the greatest there's ever been in MMA, which means he's the GOAT, until someone builds up a better record than him.
if it was based on records alone there are people with better records than him, and honestly that would make Sean Sherk in the top 5 of greatest fighters because he has only lost 2 fights. It is not based only on records but quality of oponents, and if he keeps fighting scrubs like he has been than he definitatly wont be considered the best ever.
I do think it is based on records alone, and maybe notoriety. Current rank definately doesn't factor in. It doesn't matter if his skills degrade now or in the future. The current Jordan or Ali would get their asses kicked by the best current basketball players and boxers respectively, but they're still the GOATs. Fedor did have quality opponents. He fought the best of the best in what was considered the most stacked division at the time. Crocop, Big nog x 3, Fujita, Coleman, etc when they were in their primes. And he absolutely dominated most of the time. He was your favorite fighter's favorite fighter. Who has a better record after so many fights against top 10 opponents, holding onto the title for so long? Don't even think about saying Rickson or Shamrock.
They had a repeat of ufc 70 on last night. Man, marco cro cop got knoocked the fuck out with a kick to the head.
Next up UFC 80!
Here is a preview:
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But his record was based on the assumption that Pride had the best fighters in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadegray
Now that the UFC has purchased Pride and are having all our 'dream match-ups' this assumption has turned out to be false.
To me this means he must start (at least try) to fight top ten HW or his title, not only the p4p title but goat will be forfeit.
i somewhat agree with you. pride fighters havent done as well(except a. silva and rampage). but i think a lot has to do with the fact they're fighting in cages now. fedor like myself hates dana white. he was offered a lot to fight couture and turned it down. btw if shogun actually trains for his next fight he will beat whoever he fights. my .02Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnWheels
They did have the best fighters in the world, at that time. They've looked bad in the cage, and had a bad time in the cage, mostly. Guys like shogun who'd fight a 20 minute fight at some ridiculous pace form start to finish without slowing down went into the UFC and gassed at the 4 minute mark, which isnt even halfway through the 1st round in pride. I don't know why, and I'm not going to make excuses for them. I don't know if the steriod accusations or whatever are true. But regardless of whether it was because they were chemically assisted or what, at that time, they DID fight like supermen, and there's no way to change how well they fought. Chuck went over and fought in a GP and struggled with both overeem and mezger, got his butt whipped. They were good. And Fedor was the best of them, on a level by himself. Everyone from rampage, barnett, and even the top UFC guys like Couture and BJ Penn acknowledged it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnWheels
Someone has to be the GOAT. There isnt a more worthy candidate. Who else has the experience and the wins?
If Fedor isn't the GOAT, then who is?
Your boy Hughes has allot of crow to eat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soltakr
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Some would say Anderson Silva some would say GSP. I still believe Fedor is the goat but all I am saying is his legacy is in jeopardy.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadegray
Also most believe the reason the Pride fighters are not as good is not the cage or the rules but the absence of drugs (steroids, growth hormone, etc)
All I know is that all the former Pride fighters look allot smaller when they get to the UFC.... :dunno:
Yea well it sucks and he got worked. But I'm not giving up on him just because his in a slump. I hope he doesnt retire just yet. I've been a support for years. I got to hang out with in hm Vegas all night and he was really cool guy.
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Even went up to the Miltich camp and trained with Pat (hughes coach) for a bit.http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...r/DSCN0380.jpg
I like GSP nothing, against him..Differently a new breed, but Im not jumping ship.
That makes you biased. Take yourself outside the box and you can see how easily it is to dislike him.
I am on the bus with the talk about Pride fighters being shitty without drugs. I really cant see another reason why they are so lousy. Wanderlei (sp?) Silva proved that to me.
Oh...and I could really give a shit about UFC 80. :( And that annoys me, I like looking forward to these fights.
WOW, are u serious, BJ Penn against Joe Stevenson is going to be a awesome fight, Gonzaga vs Werdum will also be really good. This is a great card, just because people who arent actual fans dont know who a lot of these guys are doesnt mean anything. great card coming up.
Yeah, I agree. He is the GOAT now. It'll take someone to build a greater legacy than his before we can call anyone else the GOAT. Maybe it'll happen in the future, maybe if Silva or GSP goes on some huge tear through their divisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnWheelsYour boy Hughes has allot of crow to eat:
Some would say Anderson Silva some would say GSP. I still believe Fedor is the goat but all I am saying is his legacy is in jeopardy.
Also most believe the reason the Pride fighters are not as good is not the cage or the rules but the absence of drugs (steroids, growth hormone, etc)
All I know is that all the former Pride fighters look allot smaller when they get to the UFC.... :dunno:
And I've been disappointed by the showing most of the Pride fighters have made. Wandy did ok... Page did good, and Anderson Silva did well. I think Big Nog did well except for one flash kick and the resulting 10 seconds afterwards, he completely controlled the octagon and Herring. Hoping he kicks Tim Sylvias ass.
Ill end up seeing it anyway, I am sure, but I am in no way excited. To better put it, I will watch it for the fights, not the fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by ice97ta
Reason why I put it that way is this example.. I was watching WEC the other night and for some reason, I never care about these fights. I dont know why either, it boggles me too. However, I saw some good fights last night so I was entertained. :shrug:
What is he saying while hes being submitted? I want to know how it ended since there was no tap. I know a fight can end without a tap, but what did Hughes say?Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnWheelsYour boy Hughes has allot of crow to eat:
He was saying "TAP TAP". Verbal tap out is legal. I disagree though about being out side the box with hughes. There was a time when I didnt know anything about him but I still like the way he carried himself. I understand he is not popular now and thats fine. Thats why the sport is so great, everyone can relate to someone.
Or I TAP, I TAP.
GSP said in an interview that he never heard it and held onto the arm until the ref pulled him off.
GSP apologized to Matt saying he hoped he was not injured from it.
I heard that too but it was great form on GSP part, he should not give up the lock. You dont stop until the ref tells you.
Agreed they are pro's and if they think they get out of the hold and the arm breaks (ala Tim Silvia) then it is their choice/risk.
Got an avi of that break? Wasnt the fight stopped right away even though Tim wanted to keep going?
Thats the way I remember it. :think:
It was stopped after the ref saw he broke his arm and then Tim still wanted to keep fighting. Then they looked at his arm and he had to go through a bunch of rehab I think, and since ever then he's been the boring jab to decision guy we've been seeing.
Not of the break but Timmy gets allot of love from the hardcore fans:Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA
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