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Originally Posted by Smittro
don't believe in life out there or just that they don't come here???
I think with the vastness of space there has to be something out there..Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
I just don't believe the Gov. has spaceships from another world..
+1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
i think it's funny that people believe this shit... while i do believe in intelligent life through out the universe i highly doubt they'd travel hundreds, thousands, millions, billions etc etc of light years and then "oh fuck i crashed!!!" on earth... second with that vast technology they have no reason to make them selves known on earth or even give us their technology... if you're walking along and come up to an ant hill do you step around it, go over it, or stop and help them build it??? now apply that thought to an alien race who has conquered and mastered what we know as the laws of physics...
Two words. Weather balloons and swamp gas.
i pour gas on ant hillsQuote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
sometimes i get swamp gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiggyZ
beans with broccoli is bad.
2 = 5? :lol: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by SiggyZ
I don't think the government could keep this under wraps for this long...they can't even keep WikiLeaks from stealing 'confidential' information....
i'm sure there is life out there but i'm not sure if or why they would come here. i take my car out, waste a lot of gas on a joy ride and get a flat every now and then. humans have wasted a lot of time, energy and lives exploring. i'm positive humans would LOVE to go out and observe some civilization that is hundreds, perhaps THOUSANDS of years behind. why couldn't some alien be the same way?
i'm not sure about this one way or the other but i wouldn't put it past any government to want to "protect" it's people by hiding something. or maybe protect their interests in learning a new technology....
what about the theory, that god is actually aliens..
many speculate, that the gods, past civilizations (egypt, mayan, rome, etc) worshiped, the gods from the sky, are actually aliens.
to take it further, some believe the aliens walk amoung us as hybrids blending in.
sadly i could almost believe that because some people either look alien, or fake and dead in the eyes..
The only thing I am going to toss out there, is that we are a race that uses 100% of its brain but only 12% of its potential power. To me, that makes me believe anything is possible, even beyond our 12% scope of reasoning.
I love the 'gods were aliens' theory, the main premise of Stargate for instance, and very popular in sci-fi writing lately.
I agree with Krese on the archaeologist/paleontologist point, about studying primitive cultures. We love to do it, it's fair to assume that an advanced intergalactic society may have similar curiosities.
And I agree with Spaz, that if such a civilization exists that has mastered intergalactic travel, they're probably advanced enough to keep their craft from crashing here. Seriously, you can travel faster than light, cross thousands of light years, but you can't avoid crashing in a field in New Mexico? Eh, doubtful.
I like to think it's the Star Trek first contact principle. If there is an intergalactic 'community' out there, they're waiting for backwater planets like ours to reach a certain level before saying hi...
Or else there really is absolutely no way to move faster than light and travel those distances, and every civilization out there is isolated and alone, wondering if they're the center of the universe and the only life out there, too... How depressing if that's the case...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso[/ame]
One of the greatest b-movies of all times.
i thought i covered this with my flat tire analogy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmalgar
how about this one:
if you believe in religion you are taught from a VERY young age that NOTHING is perfect except for god. this is intelligent thinking even if you are not religious. many years from now windows 90000 won't be perfect :)
so maybe in all that ship was made on a alien friday at alien 4:59pm?
:yup::Poland:Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmalgar
Yeah, you're right of course, it's just hard to extend the flat tire to successfully crossing the vast void of space, but the analogy is probably a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
And Ha! about Windows 90000 and extra Ha! about an alien Friday at 4:59...
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Originally Posted by Schmalgar
our laws of physics don't allow for it... your mass would become infinite... how ever bending space time is another possability but then the gobs of radiation would be so intense we'd not likely survive... interdimensinal travel might be a possability but our brains have trouble grasping that concept...
we have a shit ton of wars going on... any alien being would look at us and say "too dangerous for our technology" and move on to find a less retarded race of beings...
pick up michio kaku's book called hyper space... it's one of my favorites... :D
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Originally Posted by krese
no... the technology and energy needed to make the distance that they would travel... i highly doubt there would be any failures of equipment...
Maybe it was a DUI UFO..
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Originally Posted by Schmalgar
agreed... rowdy roddy piper... dont remember seeing the sequel. sure that sucked.
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Originally Posted by Spaz
oh c'mon, did you ever watch ANY of star wars or star trek? there were failures all the time! christ, it seems the more technical you make something the more prone to failure it is ( look at the LT1 optispark :P ) i have a very hard time thinking that just because the technology is extremely advanced that means there is no more failures....
There was a sequel? Holy crap, I never heard of it! Yeah it musta sucked if folks who love the original haven't even heard of it. But I'll be looking for it now!Quote:
Originally Posted by ibanez7
all the more reason to study these strange "humans".... why do they kill each other?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
OR maybe they are the cause of it all.. think of it spaz, how fun would it be to have your very own human sandbox? to be able to fuck with them for thousands of years and see what they end up doing....
not really... all they would have to do is open their own history books...Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
i would personally careless... but for the average american who lives their life vicariously through shows like real world, and jersey shore, and john and kate plus eight i could see the drama making them salivate...Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
:lol: they are like that because we need some drama in the shows... again with that vast of technology and the achievments they have made failure like that wouldn't happen...Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
my mistake the sequel has not been made yet... but has been on again off again in the worksQuote:
Originally Posted by Schmalgar
Bummer. Now I am sad.
spaz, check out this book if you have not already. i think you would like it:
beyond star trek: from alien invasions to the end of time
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Star-Trek-Alien-Invasions/dp/0060977574[/ame]
looks like in his book he uses mathematics and physics that we currently understand... saying the flying saucers in the movie independence day would exert a 450lb per sq in pressure... he assumes they use technology near what ours is...Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
pretty much everyone of the "sightings" in that video were debunked...Quote:
Originally Posted by jetaws6
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_1...99-501465.html
i could probably find the rest of the debunks if i had the time...
Interesting
the worst problem is that we want to believe and forget about common sense... we wouldn't travel X amount of light years and just show up and been seen by an alien race that we'd like to study... we'd destroy thier beliefs, morals, etc etc... their society would crumble and more wars would probably start as a result...
you can't project OUR common sense on an alien same as you can't project human feelings to a dog or cat. just does not work. we have NO idea what an alien civilization THOUSANDS of years ahead of us would do or wouldn't do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
anything is possible is the way i view things. if you want to rule things out because you think they need to follow common sense then you are a bit closed minded IMHO. they COULD be a race of technologicly advanced retards like in galaxy quest for all we know.
impossible...Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GooNhOIMY0[/ame]
cool vid.
he called me a terrorist!
his books are amazing!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
I still say any sign of UFOs has to be either gas from a swamp or from Spaz.
I just have two questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmalgar
Where is your avatar and when did you get more ink? :)
i've been known to levitate the bed sheets after eating refried beans...Quote:
Originally Posted by SiggyZ
He got more than ink. He's on vacation right now.
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Originally Posted by TLS_Addict
No competition for my two fiber bars in under 10 hours I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by Spaz
Maybe they figure we already have enough aliens to go around..
No sense invading a place already occupied.
He is currently viewing the forums as a visitor..Quote:
Originally Posted by TLS_Addict
Had to do that myself a couple of times..:sulk:
I did my time.......proud of it actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
What the hell did he do? I didnt see it, fill me in f^ckers!
Want to know too :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by TLS_Addict
uh spaz, he says it's possible....
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pw13F7ahjY&feature=related[/ame]
5% are "unexplained" at this time... but like all my other posts there is no reason that they would want to be seen... people want them to be unexplained...Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
all i'm saying is that it is possible that they have been here. i guess i misunderstood your point and took it as you saying it isn't possible they have been here.
on another note i watched a few more of his vids on youtube. i was very interested in his theory of time travel, the internet goggles (and in the future internet contacts lenses) and teleportation.
the teleportation has been on my mind all night. he said that it will be just like star trek but one thing he said sent chills down my spine. he said that basically when you are teleported you are killed and recreated as an exact copy. i NEVER once considered that....... to everybody else it's you but the "copy" of you would be a different you from your point of view (not the copy's point of view of course). crazy stuff.
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Originally Posted by krese
:yup:
I could listen to him speak all day..Quote:
Originally Posted by krese
I concur. He's a most intriguing fellow.
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Originally Posted by Smittro
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGeYGksG55M[/ame]
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Originally Posted by SiggyZ
:rotfl:
I saw an alien yesterday. His name was Miguel. He makes really good quesadillas.