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So I've been getting paranoid over getting a DUI. I go out to the bars very often with friends, and at times I wonder if maybe I should've just stayed at a few beers and stared into space for the last hour at the bar...
At any rate, I ran into this video (possibly an ad from the makers of the product). This sound like snake oil to you?
Im probably going to be the nicest answer you get but if you dont want a DUI then dont drink and drive. Stay home and drink or call a cabQuote:
Originally Posted by myk02k
you're young so you get a free pass from me but if you only take one person's advice this week take mine. Plan better. Always have a plan to get home without drinking and driving. There are ways. Get a GF that doesn't like to drink and have her drive you if that's what it takes. Take a bus or a cab. Do whatever you have to do.
Little fact about breath analyzers.....a cop doesn't need it to charge you with drinking and driving. You could "pass" it all day long but if a cop deems you under the influence you're getting a ticket for it and it'll be up to you and some expensive ass lawyer to prove you weren't. Best case scenario is it gets reduced to reckless op or some other lesser offence but you're still going to be out a few grand in lawyer fees and court costs.
this. can't stand 'buzzed' drivers, :rl:Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
That and being a former MP (Military Police) those girls were not using a "Police Device"
They were using a cheap piece of crap from Autozone that isnt as accurate. On top of that........she wasn't blowing very hard. Police make you blow til you pass out :D
EDIT: 0rion's advice is sound also! They don't need it to arrest you for it, thats why FST's are for. Field Sobriety Test!
This! I was going to say something very simular but in a very not nice way that would most likely get me inked. If there is one thing I cannot stand it is drunk drivers, I think you guys have had enough warnings through T.V.,Radio , ect I think it should be manditory jail time and loss of license. I am stopping now before I get aggrivated and type something really nasty.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0rion
It only works on female moose obviously.
Here is my 2cents. People are always going to find away round laws. I think this is kind of a good thing. (not good to drive drunk) but good in the sense that now a better tool will need to be devised in order to be more accurate a less fallible. Thats how progress is done. We use a product until its beaten then its back to the drawing board.
You're not going to fool any cop. They'll get a weird reading and just make you do it at the station, if you pass the field test.
You don't want to hurt anyone while drinking and driving, that's the main issue. Besides that, it'll cost you about 8k depending your state.
As others said, just don't do it. Get a ride, call a cab, walk or sober up.
Carry a pint of Jack Daniels under your seat. If pulled over after drinking. ......allow the cop to come to the window...hand him your license and shit and down the entire pint right in front of him. He now cannot charge you with driving over the limit (DUI) he can only charge you with public intoxication. Yes it works and yes it has worked numerous times.
Or dont drink and drive.
what about open container? doesn't the bottle/can/whatever have to be sealed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
LOL, keys aren't in the ignition and it's a sealed bottle, this might work here. But I don't have the balls to try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinmc978
I guess i was thinking in terms of having the drink in a plastic bottle or something so you could chug it faster than in a glass one,Quote:
Originally Posted by KMdef9
but in that case, he could give you another citation for driving around with a plastic bottle full of booze that has the seal on the lid broken (because you had to open the bottle to pour the liquor in it)
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Originally Posted by myk02k
Probably snake oil. Mythbusters did something like that to try to beat the breathalizer, and nothing worked.
Wow some sage advice here. It really works, eh Sarge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
if you think about it though, it would not be in the Mythbusters' interest to say it would work, they would be scrutinized greatly for putting that information on tvQuote:
Originally Posted by Too Fast
just like with the moon landing conspiracy episode, with all the Nasa scientists that helped, of course they found that the arguments they decided to test were busted.(I'm not in anyway saying I believe the landing was filmed in hollywood though:D)
^^^oh yes you are LOL. You are one of the non-believers, but make a good point about the MB show.
I've seen somewhere about others trying to beat the breathalizer, and they couldn't fool it either.
I think Sarge has the best answer.
In our area, they start with field sobriety testing, maybe do a breathalyzer, and then transport them to the hospital for a blood draw. If a person refuses a blood draw they are still charged with DUI and get an additional one (1) year suspension of their license.
:yup: Not a good idea to refuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by pajeff02
Sealed. Unopened.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinmc978
It works absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by KMdef9
Yup. Numerous times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Too Fast
Same here. Down a pint of Jack in front of the Cop with the keys out of the ignition and he cannot prove you drove drunk. He has absolutely no choice but to charge you with public intoxication. PI carries a $75 dollar fine and no record here. It always is differed adjudication and you pay the fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by pajeff02
So do you Carry a pint of Jack Daniels under your seat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
Problem with that sarge.......alcohol takes 20 min to get into the blood stream so if the cop hits you up instantly after the stop, a good prosecuter can pin you with a dui
How about a IV full of jack?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
Wrong buckwheat. How does the prosecuter know if you were over the limit before the cop stopped you? Any defense attorney (from experiance here) will tear that shit up.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
Cop cannot draw blood on the scene....without your permission.
Did as a knucklehead kid. I dont drink and drive. Havent for many years now. It saved my ass numerous times when I was an animal with my head up my ass. Most cops just impounded the car and wrote me a ticket for PI. My record is pristine :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird
I look back at the times when I was younger and think that was pretty dumb... Sometimes I wonder how I'm still alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
You are barely here arent you? :)
will keeping a bottle of jack by my computer save me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
Maybe the OP got pulled over for DUI and is serving jail time as we all type in this thread :monkey:
That or overdosed on candyQuote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
The cop has a reason for stop ie swerving, over the line, etc.... Then he hits you with a fst and breath check within 20 min after seeing you down booze. Its iffy. Sorry for spellin and grammer, its from my phoneQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
I had a guy wreck after drinking and someone gave him a ride home. The police found him in the shower drinking a beer, with several empties on the floor of the shower. No way to prove he was intoxicated at the time of driving. No DUI charges.
we all know zapper was driving drunkQuote:
Originally Posted by pajeff02
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Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird
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the hell??? Please don't tell me I'm the ONLY man here that will admit to having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, or having a beer while shooting pool with the guys and then driving home later? ... seriously?
oh... and yeah, that's pretty much snake oil. Cute advertising though. Lots of suckers would go for that. :) Actually, I should have thought of that.
DO IT! I say go for it. Only because I work in a jail and people like you keep me employed.
no no... to beat the test you have to eat your own shit and vomit into the brethalizer...
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Having a glass of wine or a beer or two while out and driving home is not the same as being shit faced and driving home.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMilhouse
We are talking about driving "drunk".
If one beer or glass of wine makes you drunk...sorry for your loss :lol:
2 beers can put you over the limit. You can be fine to drive but still end up with a dui at .08Quote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
I guess...each person is different. I've seen friends drink all night...beers, shots, hard liquor...and blow a .05/.06.
I don't buy that.... BAC is going to be about the same, but people handle alcohol differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
You sure this will still work with dash cams? Personally, I wouldn't be reaching under the seat while I'm pulled over. Seems like a good way to get tased or shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
Don't really care if you buy it or not. I was standing there when he blew. The cop threw the meter down and then proceeded to take him to jail to be tested there after he blew twice and passed the sobriety field test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird
I call bs on this product.
Open container here is 80, not sure how much public intox is, but I've heard of Sarge's tactic working. Never tried it myself.
It takes forever so I could see it working. Get searched, search car, breathalyzer, field sobriety, then off to the hospital for blood test. You'll probably have to still pay for your car to be towed and for the blood test.
I bet it'd be over a 1000 dollars before you are finished, but without a DUI, or maybe they wouldn't bother to do that since you weren't technically drinking and driving...idk.
Manswers confirmed there is no way to get past a breathalyzer. However If you burp the cop is required to wait 30-45 min (cant remember the time) but the burp gives the blower false readings. So if you feel like waiting and you can make yourself burp then thats your best bet I guess
Dont waste your time and possibly someone elses life trying to "beat" a dui. The best way to beat the breathalyzer is to not drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by myk02k
I have had one. I'll finally admit it here. It changed my life and the way I view having a drink and getting in a car. Heres my take on it............
1. Anybody can get one. You DO NOT have to be what you or even your friends view as "drunk". The state does not care how strong your buzz was. You only need to give the cop a reason to pull you over and "think" you are intoxicated. You take that breathalyzer and you blow over the legal limit? You are fucked pal. Theres no such thing as, " I could drive perfectly" " I barely even felt a buzz". Guess what, you are always more impaired then you think you are.
2. Sometimes people get DUI's because they have a severe drinking problem other times its simply just bad judgement.
3. A simple afterwork "lets grab a beer" with a coworker can often result in a dui. It doesnt have to be dark out on a friday night and you to get wasted partying to get one. You could simply just have a "few".
4. Once the cop arrests you under suspicion you are fucked. You are gonna blow a bad breathalyzer more then likely.
5. REFUSAL TO SUBMIT TO A BREATHALYZER IS AUTOMATIC GUILTY OF DUI
6. The new Alcotest breathalyzer systems cannot be "beat". They also record your reading in a large file of breathalyzer results and go to the state. You cant have a cop buddy make the bad results "go away". You are not gonna beat this system because when you are drinking and driving and you get pulled over, you are gonna be too concerned with "looking sober" your mind wont be able to do any "tricks" that could result in a pass reading or a botched test. You simply will either fail or pass the test. Most of the "tricks" people talk about dont work at all, have never been proven and are bro science.
7. Mouthwash or any kind of alcohol based product that is the persons mouth CAN give a fail reading on a breathalyzer. t his would be one case where you can conceivably get out of a dui. However, to combat this happening, most police departments in the US wait approximate 15 to 20 minutes BEFORE they take you into the station to perform the test. This is to have the best chances at accurate readings.
8. You metabolize one drink per hour and often "peak" with your BAC AFTER you may have had your last drink. Inotherwords, you can have 6 beers and not actually get the full effect till a good 10 mins after you stopped drinking. Maybe even longer. Meaning, you drink at the bar, feel alright, then as you are driving your body gets progressively more inebriated.
9. People look down on DUI offenders. Its just the truth
10. They CAN and likely WILL effect you and your job, particularly if you do anything that requires you do driving in company or customer cars etc. You can ruin your career for up to 3 yrs or more basically.
11. There are "worse" crimes that get treated better then a first offender on a dui.
12. most people talk shit about people getting a dui, get very holier then thou, not realizing they themselves have driven drunk frequently and MULTIPLE times. Simply because society is ignorant to what a DUI actually is
guys and gals just get a fucking ride. Call a cab. they are expensive, they take forever to wait for sometimes, but in the end its so much better. I'll walk 10 miles in snow barefoot before I'll ever drive after drinks again.
I'm either drinking or I'm driving. Theres no point in "just having one or 2" and then driving. why risk it? You wanna drink? drink. But dont drive.
Everything Stanger said is true, especially #10-12
Man take it from some that has a DWI and has beat a couple in my time. It is a whole lot cheaper to TAKE A CAB or NOT DRIVE. Waking up in jail with a hangover is the worst feeling every. Then you need to get bailed out, find your car bail your car out and then drop a good $5000.00 on a lawyer and court cost. Think about all the cool mods that lawyer can put on his car now and how you now can't even drive your car for at least 6 months to a year if not longer. The breathylizer does not measure the alcohol on your breath it measures the alcohol in your blood that pumps through your lungs. Ifyour going to continue to be a dumbass take this advice NEVER agree to any test Never blow take the refusal. Its cheaper for you in the long run and the cops have less to work with in court. I'm speaking from experience you may think it won't happen to you trust me sooner or later you'll forget to use your turn signal and your done silver bracelets and a free ride to the clink.Quote:
Originally Posted by myk02k
Consumed quickly enough, it actually does put me over the limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird
TSS is the only one here smaller than me.
:sillyme:
Now I have even more reason to hate those that DWI. I just learned that a friend and former roomate was killed in an auto accident by someone that was driving drunk. Nothing so haunting as looking at someones facebook and seeing on there that they are dead. I hope like hell that the asshole that was driving drunk gets thrown in jail for a very long time! That is another thing, the one that drives drunk usually survives while the innocent person dies,it is not fair and it is with that reason I believe that the drunk driver that kills an innocent person should be in prison for a very long time if not executed!
get pulled over, step out, throw keys into ditch preferably somwhere you will kinda remember where, open bottle, start chugging....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
old indian guy used to swear by this, whether it works or not, i have not had balls enough to try, nor needed too
i've heard a story of a guy getting a dui and he was sitting in the back seat. cop come up to him ask's him whats up the drunk says i want to report a theft. the cop says ok, the drunk says someone stole my steering wheel.
They are changing a PI law here in IN. A friend of one of our state house legislators got a PI walking home to his house. The cop saw him walking, maybe staggering a bit, and he gave him a PI. He told the cop he was walking home since he was too drunk to drive, and this was the reward.
Anyway, the new law will be that you can't get a PI in this situation, as long as you aren't endangering yourself or others.
Finally, a good change in the law.
Man if I was a cop fuck P.I if the person in question was walking to avoid driving a car. If anything he or she would be getting a pba card for that. If their house was close by i'd even give them a ride for doing the right thing.
Thanks for the advice. I don't know if I have the balls to chug a bottle of whiskey in front of a cop though. It's hard because I'm single & socialize a tremendous amount at bars, so the only real way for me is to just pace myself as slowly as possible and drive safe.
:sillyme::blah:Quote:
Originally Posted by myk02k
lol. what else could i say? none of my friends want to switch as designated drivers, they all want to hang out at bars every weekend for the most part, and i'm single. it's sad, but my social life would be pretty dull if it weren't for bars at 23 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinmc978
i'm just trying to pay closer attention, especially when i drink and drive. i get too comfortable flipping through my ipod and staring down at it, or i'll get a little anxious and speed sometimes. probable cause is quite easy for a cop to make up IMO, and i bet it's tempting for them when it's 2:30-3:00 and you're the only car on the road.
i have a clean driving record and stay far away from hard liquor, but a few beers can still get me nabbed, and i'm worried about that risk.0
3 letters? C A B?Quote:
Originally Posted by myk02k
If all your friends do is hang out at bars it sounds like you need some new friends that aren't alcoholics.
Word^^^
^^^spoken from the guy who downs a pint of whiskey in a couple minutes lol. Or maybe used to!
But I wasnt hanging out in bars with drunks now was I?
Dunno. I'm not old enough to have hung out with you. And I was just having fun when I wrote that, as you prolly know.
BS! What do they weigh 700lbs? Give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
Anybody with common sense knows that is BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by clint195
I agree to the extreme!Quote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
I've got a DUI, from over 6 years ago now. I won't go into detail about how I lost my license, and how much of a royal PITA it was to get it back but I will tell you one thing. The last time I drank at a bar was this past summer with a buddy of mine (one of few). We met some mutual friends there, and I ended up getting hammered. We took my camaro and before we even got out of the car to go in, I asked him if he was going to drink. He said he'd have a few but wouldn't get drunk. I said cool, because I'm not driving AT ALL, and I don't want my camaro being operated by anyone UTI. PERIOD. He weighs on the better side of 250 (did at the time anyways), and had 2 tall ones within 3 hours or so. I trusted him to drive, but the point is, after many years of being sober, and going back to the bar, I would have called for a cab before I even got in my own car being driven by somebody with "just a buzz".
It's just not worth it... I'm telling you.. :cool2:
After you get out of the bar scene Its not much fun going out if you go out again. I think back now and say what a waste of time and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft
OK I am lying. That is what I do on this forum with my 5,400+ posts...tell nothing but lies :sillyme:
The internet is serious business man.
I dont care if you had 150,000 post im not buying that shit. Like NHRA said anyone with common sense wouldnt either.Quote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
I know we were at the bar from about 9:30ishPM and he got pulled over at 3AM. I was with him most of the night. This is someone who drinks pretty much daily and works out daily. He is a trainer. I am not saying he downed one drink after the other all night...but he was drinking shots, several beers, and had a few mixed drinks. That was over a 5-6 hr time frame. He blew a .06 and then was taken to the police station where he blew higher mysteriously. This was AFTER he passed the field sobriety and the breathalizer that the cop gave him. His charges go revoked after he hired an attorney. They also tried to impound his vehicle, but after much debate the officer allowed his brother to come get his car. My little brother was also there and vouched to drive home...but he did blow a .08 so he couldn't.
and I don't have much common sense... Just ask SargeQuote:
Originally Posted by clint195
I'm not saying you're a liar... I just find it hard believeQuote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
We all metabolize alcohol differently. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
Many factors go into the amount of alcohol measurable in a person's blood or breath given the same amount of drinks consumed over the same time period. Not worth getting our panties in a bunch here... as it is my thong has been chafing all day. :nilly:
You may wear "panties" Jeff ....I wear drawers.
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Originally Posted by Sarge
Shit... did I type that out loud?
You want a "Show Tunes" section on the forum now?
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Originally Posted by Sarge
Would probably get post hogged by 0rion... I'll pass.
True. He would post whore all his Doris Day shit.
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Originally Posted by Sarge
I found a vid of 0rion from his senior year in high school - some sort of Christmas show. He's the guy in the black tank top:
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I'm not even 30 yet and thats my EXACT assesment of the bar scene. I dont yearn to go out to the bars every weekend like lots of people my age. When I do, theres nothing I enjoy about it. I see it as an expensive boring waste of time. I honestly dont understand why people find it so fun? You could get just as drunk for way cheaper at home lmao Whatever. I rather go to a sporting event, a movie, go bowling, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird
I'm 29... The bar scence was fun when i was 21 but after a year or two of that I was done.Quote:
Originally Posted by 310stanger
I'm the same way. Actually stopped hanging out with some peeps because all they do is go to the bar always. I like it once in a while, but NOT every weekend. Much rather have a night in playing card games and board games while drinking and when I'm out I rather go do something more active like you mentioned; sporting events, shooting range, go karts, mini golf, amusement parks, the zoo, museums, festivals...etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 310stanger
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Originally Posted by 310stanger
People go to bars all the time to get some pussy. Or the pussy goes to find some meat for the night. Probably half the patrons are doing that. Y'all just forgot about that part!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird
In Lincoln, cops wait outside of bars and give out PI all the time. You never know which bar they will wait at and most of them are next to each other so it's hit or miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Too Fast
I done the bar scene for quite a while. The reason I went was for UVA college student that was a waitress and several of the local bands that played. I got discounts on beer and never paid a cover because I would go early park my vehicle at her apartment then go to the bar with her and help them set up. Then I would ride to her apartment with her and stay over because I was drinking and wanted to be with her. Most likely I was under the legal limit but none the less it was way safer.
When she graduated my best friend was old enough to go in the bar but not old enough to drink so he took over the designated driver job. then it became a game of who could get the most names,numbers,and adresses in a night, along with the bands and still paid no cover charge and discounts on drinks because we went early and helped set up.
the bar right next door was owned by the same lady and was set up for famous bands and singers. Seen David Allen Coe, Cinderella, Montley crue, and poison in that bar. I also bought tickets to see Charlie daniels, and one of the better local bands that opened for him at a park near by,and Mark Chestnutt tickets through there.