What does everybody out there think about AC Delco Iridium plugs and MSD wires?
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What does everybody out there think about AC Delco Iridium plugs and MSD wires?
That works.
I've used them in everything for quite a few years now.. Never had any issues.. However you'll get other oppinions on the subject..
IRs are all i will use now
I have the ngk tr-6 plugs and msd wires, really woke up my car plus the plugs were really bad in the car, didnt look like they had been changed in years since I bought the car last year in july. I havent had any problems from the set up that I have.
Wheren do I find the NGK TR6? I couldn't find them at Summit Racing for my T/A. I was trying to put together an order together with the Summit Racing salesman and he said that there were MSD wires for our car. He said there were 2 for the LS1. One was a spiral core and one was a copper core. The copper core were 59.95 and the spiral core was 128.95. The spiral core were said to be for the pontiac and chevy and the copper was for the chevy. Spiral core is supposed to be better, but do we have to have it for our pontiacs?
I started to take out my wires and plugs and I got the 4 on the drivers side no problem. The passenger side, a whole different story. I need to have the hands of a ten year old boy and the strength of a gorilla to get those out. Any help would be appreciated by me and my knuckles.
http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...sity/index.htm
install university has a good write up with pictures even.
I printed it out and took it out there with me to the garage.
Even had blood stains on it after I was done.
Fun stuff.
I also used the iridium plugs with msd wires. no complaints
as for anything other than bodywork being different on pontiac vs chevy, it's BS they are both the same car under a different skin.
I ordered my plugs through KY Speed. You can shoot a PM to Mark at "marksls1ta" to check availability.
pm sent to you, on the package deal I got for my msd and ngk tr-6 plugs.
I like the MSD wires. AC plugs are good quality, but I got away from them due to the fact they no longer offered various heat ranges for the application.
I use Autolite plugs in either APP form or AR's depending on what I'm doing.
I was told by a parts guy that AC Delco and NGK are the same plug, made by the same manufacturer. Any body eard the same. Also I heard that the low resistance in the MSD wires causes radio interferance. Any body experience that? Also, I was told that the stock Delphi wires are the best for our car. I have no experience with any of this. I wanted to run what I have been hearing by forum, to see what your take is on this info. Thanks. I want to get this figured out so I can put them in.
jimmi7769. Thanks for the link.
go ngk-55 plugs
Ac delcos are a good choice.,
I'm sure msd cables are a good choice too
I put on mine ac delco wires. Just garbage.
I bought some better cables go $45 and the delcos were $125
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Originally Posted by j nix
We have had MSD wires on our car for the past several months. No issues with radio interference.
It took 80,000+ miles to finally burn SOME of the electrode on ONE set of Iridiums.....Just sayin'....;)
You've been misinformed. NGK's are a Japanese made plug and have nothing to do with ACDelco.Quote:
Originally Posted by j nix
I stay away from the NGK's, we didn't like how they performed on the dyno. Didn't seem to matter what heat range we went with, we couldn't get a variation in EGR's, they all performed like a hot plug, so they were thrown in the trash. They can send those things back over seas where they came from as far as I'm concerned.
ACDelco plugs are good quality, but they have swapped around part numbers, some popular numbers aren't even available anymore, and in the process they stopped offering various heat ranges, so I stopped using them as well.
On the wires, I run MSD wires on several cars and have never had any type of radio interfearance.
I thought it was odd, about the radio frequency thing. Do MSD wires over stock make much of a difference, Any recorded difference? The stock Delphi wires are supposed to be good. I just got done switching all the plugs and wires. That passenger side was a chore. Removing the air pipe from the manifold, made all the difference in the world. It is funny that when your hand just fits where you need it, that every thing your arms rub against have to be sharp and pointy. If I had the hands of a 10 year old boy this would be so easy.
Well I believe the MSD wires will have less resistance than the stock wires. Less resistance means more energy at the plug. That's the easiest way to explain it.
Measurable difference? An Ohm meter will show differences, whether the car actually performs better depends on how bad the stock wires were to begin with.
With these cars as old as they are now, if you were still running stock wires it's probably a good idea to swap them out anyway.
Agree! Even if the car does'nt get driven much and has low mileage the factory wires maybe dry rotted or starting..Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebirdjones
Side note I think sometimes "sitting" is worse for a car than driving it..:yup:
what about these new e3's
This will be my first year garaging my car. When you garage a car for the winter, how often should you start up the car? Or should it actually be driven? Are there any other things that should be maintained during that time?
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Originally Posted by rhinojohn
Advertising hype.
im using NGK TR55s with Granatelli Wires and have been very happy with em
I will start mine maybe twice all winter sometimes not even that.. I would'nt drive it with the salt that gets used on winter roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by j nix
As far as maintaining things goes, I'd just keep the tires aired up so not to have the weight of the car come to bare on the wheels.. Temp changes can sometimes cause a tire/s that does'nt move to go flat or loose some air over time.. I would also treat all your door/hatch/hood/t-top, seals and wheather stripping with black magic... Yeah that's right tire wet.. Been doing this for years, and is good preventative maintainance..:yup::yup:
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Originally Posted by j nix
I try to start ours at least once a month and let the engines come up to temperature. I also will cycle the AC or defroster as that helps keep the seals in the AC system lubricated. I move things around in the garage over the course of the winter so the tires and driveline do not set in the same position for 6 months straight. If dampness is an issue, keep the windows cracked to allow some air circulation through the interior. If mice are a problem, I have heard of people using mothballs under the hood to keep them from munching on the wires and building nests.
NO! Bro don't use mothballs! I mean EVER.. They will taint every inch of your interior fabric and you CAN NOT get rid of the smell....Quote:
Originally Posted by pajeff02
Thanks guys. Sounds like common sense stuff, no problem.
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Originally Posted by Smittro
Underhood only. I would never put them inside the car.
NGK 6ix's for me (Iriduim Tips) and MSD wires. Did them while, i did my headers, Catted Ypipe, and new o2's after hitting 100,000 miles. Car ran like a champ.
that is exactly what I run. Have had it on the car for about 3yrs now with no problems. great qualityQuote:
Originally Posted by j nix
Ya, if you don't care to change your plugs every 10-12,000 miles you are better off going with an iridium or platnum/double platnum plug. They are made to last as much as 50,000 miles or in some cases they claim 100,000 miles if you dare to run them that far.
Your standard run of the mill copper core plugs such as your NGK TR5's and 6's or the autolite AR racing plugs generally go about 10,000 miles before you start to see electrode wear, and plug gaps start to increase.
I hear ya. I just put in the AC Delco Iridium 41-110. Plugs are relatively inexpensive, so the little extra money for the better plugs will actually save you money and you will have better performance.
Copper is a better conductor of electricity. Technically the cheaper copper core plugs, or racing plugs will give you more spark in the chamber. They are also a better choice for power adders such as nitrous. To keep performance at it's peak, these plugs need more frequent changes, like I mentioned 10,000 miles or sometimes less. If you don't stay on top of them then performance over time could deminish.
The Platinum plugs have more resistance to put it in simple terms, and they are not recommended for nitrous use. Not necessarily better performance, unless you are the type that doesn't like changing plugs, in which case in the long run, say 30K miles or more, they would provide better performance over a copper plug that has been left in too long.
Platinum is more of a maintainance free plug so to speak, more than anything else.
Right. And the iridium would have better performance at 50,000. As you can probably tell, I don't like changing my plugs.
I don't blame ya. These cars aren't the easiest things to get your hands down into.Quote:
Originally Posted by j nix
The driver side no problem. The boots didnt want to come off on any of the plugs and they wouldnt twist. Not alot of room to get leverage. The passenger side #7 was a pain. I just squeezed my hand down the sid eof the engine and it just made it to the last plug. Had to do everthing with 2 fingers. More something I needed to do, not wanted too. Once I do my trans service and oiul change, I will be able to get her back on the road. She has ben sitting up in the garage for 2 weeks. I installed AC Delco Iridium plugs, new OEM delphi wires, SLP lid, Rebuilt the alternator to 180 AMPs for the stereo system, upgraded battery, new tires, new fog and parking lenses (115,000 miles started looking foggy and had cracks) and a diablo sport predator tune. I think she will drive a little better. Hoping for about 25 HP between the lid and tune.
They are a Japanese company but the spark plugs are built in Sissonville WV. Won't change your experence with them but for those wanting to support American workers you can buy the NGK'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Firebirdjones
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Originally Posted by rhinojohn
I put these in a old truck it was a 88 gmc 350 tb motor i have to replace every ignition part in it so I went on a long shot and tried them loved them in that truck. But a friend of mine put them in a lt1 car and it ran like crap idk why but e3's just didnt work with that car so everone i know has had mixed results with them.
Okay good..:eek: wipes brow...Quote:
Originally Posted by pajeff02
I don't buy into that whole "it's made in the us" crap. Those foreign owned companies still get 70% or more of the money overseas. Very little stays here in the states. In the long run you aren't supporting anybody here. Looks good at first, "Oh creating american jobs", blah blah blah, and that's what they want you to think. In the long run it still hurts our economy. But that's another story for another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by werewolf
agreed but for West Virginia any jobs right now is good. Job market there sucks for anything other than entry level jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebirdjones
Ya I know what ya mean. It's the same way here too. And my father tells me Ohio isn't any better. It's like that just about everywhere except Texas. I can't tell you how many people left here for Texas for jobs. From what I'm hearing, they weren't as affected by the economy like every other state has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by werewolf
I like MSD wires on everything. Just a good quality product.
Can`t go wrong with AC Delco Iridium plugs either.
Our housing market did not "explode" like most other state`s a few years back, therefore we didn`t have a fall, like everyone else. Yes, I would have to say it is good here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebirdjones