Really NEED this car.
Someone please loan me $2 mil?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEbudwM3evk[/ame]
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Really NEED this car.
Someone please loan me $2 mil?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEbudwM3evk[/ame]
damn
I didn't think it'd beat everyone
EEEEVVVVRYYYYYOOOOONEEEEEE
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_deAcoC2I[/ame]
Buy a house, buy a few studios to rent out.
Buy C6Z or C6ZR1, buy GMC Crew Cab truck. Restore Falcon.
Yep, better buy probably for cheaper.
that was freakin amazing. I think in that episode they had the bugatti test driver get it up to like 269mph. in fucking sane.
bugatti makes awesome cars.
however for the money I would buy
1 - lamborghini murcielago
1 - SSC Ultimate Aero
and have money left over for fuel.
Tires alone cost 20,000 pounds, or how ever it's spell...
rims are $11,000 each i think, and have to be replaced every 30,000 miles
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramairgod84
Manufacture says so... The owners of these cars, most of them won't even see 5,000 miles... But other manufactures such as BMW have allot of stuff they recommend that most don't do...Quote:
Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
what are the wheels made out of? i cant remember. maybe they need to be replaced because after that many miles they lose shape a bit? or get weak? but maybe the recommendation is based on the type of driving?
If I had one for a week, I would loose my license plain and simple.
A week? Shit more like a day.
I'd give them a week, we have a no chase policy. Give them a few days of getting pissed of 200+ mph car on I4. Before they decide to kill me to get me off the road ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by raynor139
$40,000 for rims and tires is nothing when you can drop over 2 million on a car. For god sake you can buy a beautiful house and nice real estate for that money. Personally I wouldnt buy it even if I were Bill Gates (well maybe it would cross my mind). For about half the price I can buy an Enzo, keep it for a few years, then just sell it for a profit. Thats one of the few cars in the world whos value appreciates rather than depreciate. I could be worng, but I think the veyron is still in production?:think:
My dream house is on Malibu beach... I probably need 10 of these cars...
I think if they test an ariel atomv8 it might best the bugatti
Wuuuuuut?Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
true, BUT, you cant just buy an enzo. you have to have certain ferraris before it to even be considered for an enzo, THEN you have to be INVITED by ferrari to have one.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
according to Forza 3... my Bugatti Veyron is slower then my AWD Viper...
I don't think the Enzo is made anymore, so it's who has a fat wallet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramairgod84
true...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramairgod84
or you can just be a washed up actor comedian, star in a crap movie and crash the car because you have no clue how to drive
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNVrMZX2kms[/ame]
Very ture, so it just goes to show that even if you have the $ you still cant buy it unlike the veyron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramairgod84
Full Episode right here if anyone wants to see it.
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-...25_2041777.htm
The Veryon is the sickest car on the planet, hands down.
Overpriced, :hifinger: I can buy something way faster for way the hell cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure you would have a very hard time finding/building another street car as refined/technolgically advanced as the Veryon that can reach speeds in excess of 250 mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
Oh you said street car.... Still overpriced...Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
umm... if you have the money to afford a car like that you don't give a flying fuck about some shitty little studio apartment rentals... you buy it cause you feel like buying it...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
You might be able to find something faster, but no way in hell will it behave like a veyron on the road. The veyron is so quite and smooth inside. Absolutley no way can you make another car handle and be as technological as the veyron.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
:werd:. A guy who has a car like this probably drives cars like that for his daily commuting and keeps them laying outside in his drive way in snow/rain/sleet etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
You may be able to get something faster in a straight line, but the Veyron will slaughter it on a road course.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
A Big Block Vega may be faster in the quarter mile, but at the end of the track it's still a POS Vega.
Even a V8 Atom might be hard pressed to keep up simply due to AWD.
Love those 4 smoking tires on launch :yum::yum::yum:
Bingo bango. For alot less money you can get a car to match the veyron in one aspect, but not all, or even two really. I bet you could fit some wide slicks on the atom, but they don't touch the cars to do top gear lap timesQuote:
Originally Posted by CJREX
This may be a bit off the wall to say this, but I'm really starting to think the Veyron is truly the "champion" of all cars. I mean, it just seems like it does everything perfect, it can obviously rip shit up around a road course, it's record breaking fast in a straight line, the interior is very, very well crafted, and even though it makes over 1000hp, it still seems like it rides like a $100,000 luxury sedan when your not romping on it. Seems to me like there is really nothing out there that exists that can top it, Bugatti just really built a epic car, IMO.
I am not talking about a car...Quote:
Originally Posted by CJREX
Mig 15/17/19/21/etc
http://www.controller.com/listingsde...UM/1163877.htm
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahu-noQ3hBc&feature=related[/ame]
F84/F86
ETC, etc... There's plenty out there, cheaper the a Bugatti and more fun. Seeing price of tires, yea ok... Also it's amazing how little hours you need to fly one of these bad boys... Granted you will still probably kill your self if you get brave.
I had a genuine supposedly high dollar Russian made watch at one time.
Based on that experience of Russian quality, I'd sooner piss off a honey badger than ride in one of their ancient jet aircraft.
Besides, you can't cruise the mall and pick up teenage girls in your Mig
I rode in one, felt nicer then my parents Piper. Stepdad's boss has one, bad ass ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJREX
:haha: clueless... absolutly clueless...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
Look it up besides having to get more ratings, it's not that many hours. I know people who have flown more then 30,000 hours (Some with way more).Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
I would look up exactly again, but I am about go pick up a new car.
Bullshit!!! BULLSHIT on everything you posted here. You don't know anyone that does anything. You ALWAYS know someone who has done something but you never back shit up. How many times have you said on here "I'm getting this, I'm getting that, I've driven this, I know someone who had this." You are a liar. I hope you get a new car so that you can rub it in my face but until then I'm calling your bullshit on this entire forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
:haha: Are we really comparing a plane to a car? That's ridiculous man. Those are two completley different machines built to do two completley different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
Shines-IT - your not getting the point of the Mig. Take offs and flying are optional, it's landing that's a requirement.
Good for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
I did say it's faster for cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
:lmao: i don't have to look shit up... my dad has his own plane... he has several different licenses... please stay away from shit like wikipedia... it doesn't help you...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
:werd:Quote:
Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
exactly...Quote:
Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
I dont think your getting the point. People who are spending $2 million on a car are not just getting a fast car, they are getting something much more than that. A veyron is pretty much the bench mark in the automotive industry. Every thing about that car is like something from Ripleys Believe it or Not.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
Sure you can go out and buy an old camaro and drop a 500+CI motor with some juice and run 8's and kill the veyron in the 1/4. Other than that, what else can you do to beat it? Once your car gets to 160-170 its gonna run out of speed where as the veyron will still keep pulling for another 80-90mph more.
A jet might be faster, but I'm sure ppl who have such cars have their own private planes to get around if they are in a hurry...
Either way I'm sure 99.9% of the ppl on this site cant afford one, which is why we envy it :drool:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q34xIzTj8fQ&feature=related[/ame] :drool:
My parents have an airplane also, I have posted pics of the back end in the hanger it was in the same frame as an the Falcon. I posted pics once of my stepdad's helicopter he worked on in the past. I posted the company and name of the owner who my mom worked for that has nice cars/bikes. I posted pics of a few cars we owned in the pass (SS Impala, 97 WS6, 08 Ram, 88 Corvette, two Harley's, 97 Acura, 98 Trans Am, 93 Corvette, 63 Falcon is all I can recall posting pics of). Number of members of my family have a pilot license, I was even working on it at some point. I could solo at one point, but have no interest in flying. I am not sure exactly how many hours is needed to fly a Jet but I know it's not to many. I have posted proof in the pass and don't see why I would still need to. But to me, learning to fly and owning a jet would be more fun then a $2,000,000 car. Maintenance on both seem high. So may as well get the cooler of the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
I am sure the SHines bashing will still roll on. Either way IDC, I will laugh with you.
LOL your still comparing apples to orange but its ok, I think you fail to see that point. :itsok:Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
I still see your point. I agree it's top car and will be the car to beat for years to come. Would be fun as hell to own. But I can think of much cooler things to me (IMHO) to own then a pricey ass car, again this is IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
Also if I needed to know exact qualifications to fly a Mig. I would not got to Wikipedia, not a good source. I would either look into the FAA, Pilot Forum, or ask the instructor who rents our airplane. I was told the requirements a year ago and I don't think it's that much to fly a jet.
You can build a superior machine (Car) for cheaper. Nuf said
EDIT: Will beat the Veyron in every aspect :true:
Will admit tho, that the car is badass :yup: I'd buy one if I had cash laying round to do so! Could only imagine how a car of that price range/would be
SSC Ultimate Aero V8, bests the Vyeron by 4MPH, and cost about 1/3 the price. or the Saleen S7, 5 MPH slower then the Vyeron, and at a cost of 555,000.00. So two of the fastest cars in the world are made right here in the USA. basically you can buy the Aero and the S7 and still have money left over!
Mods?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccusum
i don't give a fuck what pictures you have... you were wrong about being able to fly a jet in a few hours...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
and holy shit... you still don't fucking get it... if you can afford the damned veyron you can afford to have the jet too... jebus... and you think you're smart enough to run two businesses??? i don't see them lasting very long...
Okay no need to argue if your going to sit there and talk to me like I am stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
then look it up instead of making yourself look stupid...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
:haha: well...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
You are stupid. It's not speculation. :hifinger:Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
exactly.... same with buying a lamborghini... yes a TT f-body can smoke a lamborghini, but which one will get you more VIP and exclusive treatment and MORE PUSSY....
Exotic cars like Bugatti, lamborghini, ferrari, SSC Ultimate Aero, are an exclusive group of cars and demand and change your lifestyle.
You've never seen or hear about white trash building up a lambo or bugatti with duct tape, an adustable wrench and a 40 year ford 9inch covered in rust.
Simply put, exotic are more about a life style then just speed.
See one up close, sit in one, ride in one, and you feel the change and difference....
SSC ultimate aero was stock.....Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
however the new bugatti veyron took the crown back... lets see what the next ultimate aero can do
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1wus0Ypqg0[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAffXfF2ejU&feature=related[/ame]
example?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
did top gear test any of those?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccusum
I thought we established that we don't talk straight line speed only?
you're...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHines-IT
Please start naming some.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
:rolleyes: Yeah right, i'm waiting to see what "street" car you can come up with that can outperform a Buggati Veryon in every aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
I'm sure its possible. But you can make a 1,000 Horsepower Honda that will blow the doors off my Z28, I'd still call you Gay though.
:lmao: :gay:Quote:
Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
the moser mt900 can be set up/porduced to beat one... :D
While it will beat the Buggati, it won't be as rare, and it won't be from the factory like that (IE Modded) sooooooo probably no warrenty and won't be as collectable/worth as much :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
If we wait a few more days Shines might get in touch with "someone he knows" and let us know just how awesome it is. :jerkit:
Then give us a car that can beat it pretty much every performance aspect like you claimed. Im not bashing you, just curious to see whats out there that I dont know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
:lol: I knew that was comming.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
:rolleyes: I was going to put "IB4T" but didn't think it was needed. Obviously I can't build a car of that magnitude because I'm not rich. I would love to if I had money but I don't soooooo............ I said it could be done, and it can, didn't say I could do it. If I was that rich, I wouldn't be spending so much time on LS1.com thats for sure. I'd be out doing things left and right. :true:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
:hide:
LOL ok let me rephrase the question then. If I gave you $2,000,000 and said build me a car that can kill the veyron in every way possible, what/how would you build it?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
I'd build it better :lmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
But in all seriousness, I'd have to do some studying before anything. I'd go FI thats for sure. Possible twin supercharged or twin turboed. I believe the Koenigsegg is twin supercharged :true: Aerodynamic for sure, with plenty of downforce. RWD or AWD leaning more towards AWD with pretty much everything made from titanium and carbon fiber. Engine block would be titanium but since titanium doesn't get rid of heat like aluminum does, cooling would be a big priority. Just some things off the top of my head. It took years to develop the Buggati, I can't build something better in a post on LS1.com until I've did my own research and development.
EDIT: Titanium is 45% lighter then steel but just as strong. Titanium is twice as stong as aluminum but 60% heavier. Just so you everyone is up on that :lol: I also edited to say I'd be using aluminum on many of the parts also.
Yeah thanks I really didnt know what Titanium was before you came here and educated me on it :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
Point of the matter is, as of right now there isnt anything in production that is even close to beating that car in any way. Maybe there is a company working on a supercar as we speak that can beat the veyron...who knows. But I can guarantee you one thing, if I gave you 2 million there is no way in hell you personally could build a car better than the veyron.
And your right, tons and tons of R&D goes into making a car like that. You will never have the $ or the brains those engineers have, nor the facilities to build a car better than that. I cant imagine the countless hours that car spent inside the wind tunnel testing the aerodynaimcs from every corner of it.
seriously why even debate this...
the truth is, with the right amount of money anything can be built/accomplished
It always comes down to money, and the consumers desire to buy the product.
Honestly I knew the bashing would start. I just find it funny that ppl say they can build a better car for less $ and when asked what/how, they always back down with some shitty excuse. Lol then you have ppl comparing a car to a god damn jet for god sake :lmao: :drama:Quote:
Originally Posted by ibanez7
Shines comments lack any credibility because he farts so much cum. We just have to move forward with our lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
More fire in the flame:
Lets say you use all your resources to make a car faster then a Veyron and then the Veyron owner uses all his resources (more $$$ than us) and blows us away yet again. Now what :lol:
Thats what I'm saying. People always thought the f40 was "THE" supercar back then. It costed roughley $400,000 which back then was like $2,000,000 today and had a twin turbo V8. Nobody thought anything would come out faster and more expensive then out poped the mclaren. Nobody thought there could be a car that could go 240+mph and cost over $1,000,000 brand new. Then out came the Veyron. Everything on that car is all custom made. Its not LS1.com where you can call one of our sponsers and they will grab the part of the shelf and send it to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHayesLS1
lets not forget the ZR1 had the title "worlds fastest production car"
yet the bugattis is a production car (granted small volume production) and even the new ZR1 20 years later, can not even come close to the veyron. yet the veyron is a new(er) less established car. The Veyron took the title from mclaren as the fastest car, then lost it too SSC Ultimate Aero and took it back again! The ZR1 has a long way to go to get the title!!!
simple way to put it:
(the street)
veyron or murcielago = more head turning, more pussy, more vip treatment
vette, 4th gen f-body = midlife crisis, there goes another loud exhaust car
(the track)
veyron or murcielago = faster cornering, lap taps, easier to drive
vette, 4th gen f-body = if modded faster on the straights, falls behind in the turns, harder to drive.
bottomless budget, technology and R&D, a john deere lawnmower smokes them all!!! lol
If a faster/ better car could be made that outperforms the Bugatti in every aspect, it would already be being built by one of the "boutique" supercar builders where price is no object, eg, Pagoni, Noble, Koeniggsegg.
Funny, the Veyron outperforms all their top machines.
I'm sure someday a car will be built that outperforms the Veyron in every aspect. But that day is not today.
Don't see how I backed down at all, I told you the way I'd go around it and what most of my materials would be right off the bat without years of studing . Never gave a shitty excuse, gave an honest excuse "Years of development" if thats shitty, god help us. And I wouldn't be judging people's intelligence considering I've scored in high enough in "A REAL" IQ test to put some people to shame. I have close to a photographic memory, I just don't really apply myself like I should but thats changing and changing fast. People have been comparing cars vs jets for years, Lingenfelter has been racing his Vettes vs F-18's and such. Shit, a lingenfelter RWD TT vette will destroy a Buggati off the line and in the 1/4 (Just saying) Thats only 2 aspects, but a better car can be built for cheaper. If you disagree, you think the Buggati is as good as we (Humans) can make :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
How do you know they aren't building one and keeping it a secret :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by CJREX
And to make myself totally clear since shit seems to be read over! I don't mind the Buggatti, its a crazy car no doubt :yup: I am not too keen on the looks but thats just opinion. I just stated that a better car could be built for cheaper :true:
Omg Orion where r u
:haha: :true:Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
If it's being built in secret, then it's not here today, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
And as far as better for cheaper, where is it?
I'm not worshiping at the shrine of Veyron, but to state that better can be made for less, when so far no one in the world can seem to do it, begs a response of "Show me"
I have nothing against the mods, but sometimes I think they should let discussions like these go on. No body is cursing or yelling at each other. We are just having a good debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
Did I ever call you stupid? Did I ever say you were retarded? Did I mention anything about your intelligence in any way? No I didnt. Its stupid stuff like this that causes these threads to be locked up. Your the only one who's taking this personally. Everyone here is debating about real facts, and you try to turn the story around by trying to sound like your some kind of genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
I have never recalled Lingenfelter say that "My car is faster than the Veyron for a lot less thus making it better" or "Give me another couple million and I can beat the veyron in any aspect". He knows that will never happen. He knows he has a faster and cheaper car then the Veyron but thats where it ends. The veyron isnt meant to just go fast. If it was, there would be no need for the plush leather interior and all the comforts. (Power windows/steering/doors, A/C, Climate controll, GPS etc...) It would have been a giant gokart like the F40 with real thin paint, no carpets, no power anything.
They took it off of youtube so here it is from streetfire
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-...p4_2042072.htm
True.......but what kind of car is this that you are reffering to?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
I mean really, what other car can you think of that is capable of reaching speeds in excess of 250 mph, can still handle decent (the Super Sport ran the fastest time ever on top gears test track) that's capable of running 9.8's (what the 09 non-super sport ran) in the 1/4, and on top of all of that it still has a very well layed out luxury car like interior, what car is this that you are reffering to that can top that?
LOL 1200hp and 0-60 in 2.5 seconds.:eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by c5z28
Thats why I commented on the intelligence aspect. You never called me retarded or stupid but thats why I said what I said. What I commented will not get a thread locked because you answered it 100% correctly (No cussing, no flaming, just a good o' debate) And for arguments sake, you can build a car for cheaper, the Bugatti doesn't cost $2 million to make, the company makes profit off of the car so TECHNICALLY it can be done for cheaper :lmao: I agree if a car isn't out there that can beat it, then there isn't at this moment. The Bugatti is a crazy car, to say it isn't would be plain retarded, but I 100% believe one can be built to beat it :yup: And for the Lingenfelter argument, I wasn't stating that to compare cars, I was using that basis to show how cars have been compared to jets :cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
Everyone has to remember that the Bugatti is a pig (Heavy) and not very efficient :true: Last time I read (could be wrong) the Bugatti made close to 3000hp but lost thousands of HP through the drivetrain and heat. It has 10 or so radiators which seem like heat was an issue with the car. That info tells me that if you can address the heat, make the car lighter, and make it more efficient, then you have a car thats cheaper and faster and will corner better :dunno:
I think that might have meant the efficiency of a gasoline piston engine. Which for a multivalve turbo motor is about 33% fuel turning into power
Interesting :hmm: I wish I could find its true power output before it makes it to the wheels. My internet searches yield no positive results :dunno: :sillyme:Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
Lol dude I was stating facts. Just because your not as smart as the ppl who design those cars doesnt make you stupid. Your going to need a hell of a lot more than just a good IQ to work for someone like that. Every car manufactorer makes a profit but do you honestly think Buggati are making a profit worth talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
1001.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
F40's have a/c I believe. Still ain't got shit on the bugatti
I'm pretty confident in stating that vw group is losing money of bugatti
:hmm: I don't think they would produce something if they are taking a loss......not like the economy is that good right now but hell, I could be wrong :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
It came out in '05 and was developed long before I'm sure. It's a halo car
Thats what I was getting at sir. You have no clue in hell, let alone facts that "ALL" of those people are smarter then I am. True story: I was about 6/7 years old when I was wondering why all cars didn't have direct injection, being a gear head runs in the family. Not saying I'm smarter then any of them since I haven't met any of them, but its a blantant lie to say you have facts saying I'm not. Its all good tho, not mad at you bud :cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
EDIT: More then likely I'm not smarter then any of them but we all will have no clue unless I were to meet them (Not a chance in hell of happening) and talk with them. Shit, I know I'm not the smartest on this board :true: :lmao:
Your right on the 05, I believe they only sold 5 in 05 :lol: And your probably right on the rest of your info.Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
I believe this new model is the final hurrah. Keep in mind vw group is huge. Bugatti ain't shit in dey budgets. Good r&d pet project