Just a tip, do NOT race a new 5.0 with a stock LS1 WITH your girlfriend in the car.
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Just a tip, do NOT race a new 5.0 with a stock LS1 WITH your girlfriend in the car.
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Cool story bro
in B4 the :shitstorm:
In before Transamws6
inb4 transamws6
shit...Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
In before BlackSS01
buhahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by shines-it
Video or it didn't happen...
inb4 transamws6
Thanks for the tip bro,I'll be sure to keep that in mind.:loser:Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
I actually found one on the road the other day and he was scared of my stock LS1. I was bummed because I wanted to see how my TA would run against him. I had no GF with me so that was probably why he wouldn't run...
IB4T Post this on a Ford forum, this is Chevy that last time I looked. I'll meet you half way and race you for cash :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
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K 5$ you buy the fuel. :mel:Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
Whats your car run anyway? Curious.
:cry2: I take offense to IB4 BlackSS01.....thats the first time in my life this has happened on here :lol: I like the 5.0's looks but people are sticking them so high on a pedastal its not funny. Enjoy your car, I'll enjoy mine. I'll enjoy running into some 5.0's while you will enjoy running LS1's :yup:
Wasn't flaming you. Your just always an aggressive player in the 5.0 discussion. Knew you were comming. Heard the Jaws theme playing.
I still have my LS1 car. I get to enjoy both :-)
What no story?
Ran a 12.8 @ 114 mph with full bolt ons, at sea level with 32psi on street tires with half tread with a 2.3 60'. Track prep was decent for what I was running. Haven't ran it yet with H/C, because working out kinks in every part of the car (Ordered wheels but fucking around with tires :yup: ) Should be, thats a big "SHOULD" be 11's all day, I'm no pro of a driver but been driving stick since I was 9 years old on my Dad's lap out in the boonies.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
EDIT: Can't afford $5 to run, can't afford gas to get out there :lol:
Well played sir, well played :cheers: :suicide:Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
The 5.0 driver heard my loose idler pulley and got scared... Well it was either that or the fresh set of rear tires I had just put on.:chuckles:Quote:
Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
Stories gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
LS1 in front of me on back road. He floors it, I floor it. I find myself trying to buff the scratches out of his taillights. Thats the most interesting I can make it.
O his story my bad.
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No I am just focking playing but I did see one and he turned off rather quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
You might find interesting, comming down Rt. 83 in PA last week came up next to a Termi. Didn't want to play :unhappy:
Guy in the ls1 either couldnt drive or was still completely stock or a auto perhaps.
I want to race the cobra around the corner from where i work, he has crappy tires and cant drive, i figure its a good combination.
Really? Trying to start an argument? Please don't feed TransamWS6.Quote:
Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
I have never even hinted the new 5.0 was a better engine then my LS1. But stock it is faster. And when I drove the big 3 (Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang) it was in a BIG way the better car.
Bolt on LS1 = Stock 5.0
He said it was stock in his original post.Quote:
Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
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Originally Posted by Packy
Perfect timing :lol:
OP: Told you once, I'll bow down and tell you again; Way better looking GT then the older/newer ones. :hug:
I'd like to take a ride in a new stang. My brother had an 85 that I was in love with back then but the changes ford made after then went downhill in a hurry. The last stang I rode in was ~93-94 and it was like riding in a tuna can. It's taken the stang guys 12 years to have a N/A engine that can run with an LS1. Meanwhile GM supercharged an LS series motor and look what it's doing. It would be like me bragging that my 98 LS1 is faster than the 86 GT's stock for stock.....which it is.....by bus lengths.
So I guess congrats on the kill and welcome to 12 years ago. :D
Thanks haha.
Whats your opinion on it being faster then the 2010 Camaro though?
What about the Mach 1's? The 99-01 Cobra? Those were N/A and were on par with the LS1 stock for stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0rion
No offence but cost alot more too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
I stand corrected a Mach 1 was about the same price as a Loaded SS
I still beat the 99 Cobra with my 93 Vette with bald tires... So I am more then sure an LS1 car would take one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
I think that is arguable too but let's say I give you that. Then we have to factor in that they weren't base GT's which is what we're talking about here. Since there were only base f-bodies then lets look at the LS6 motors in the vettes or even the firehawks. Stock for stock GM wins those races. The only model N/A that would even be a race is the 03-04 mach 1's and even then I think most 98 f-bodies would still take them on the street and you're still talking 5-6 years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
The 99-01 Cobra was as well. According to the 1999 Road & Track Magazine I have on my desk, a fully loaded SS back in 99' was $27,466 vs. the Cobra's $28,190, fully loaded. Basically in the same price range.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
No excuse, but my personnel opinion (Nothing to do with performance) The new Maros are uglier then sin :rl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
I haven't heard enough on the streets to definitely say they're gonna win that race everytime. The Camaro is only a Camaro by name...completely different platform. It's closer to a cadillac than an f-body. How many lb's did the new camaro pick up? What would that engine do transplanted into a true f-body?Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
No not trying to start a arguement... Just saying. Please dont get defensive over something so small and stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
Bye bye guys: Can't believe I'm liking whats coming out of Orion's mouth being a NO fan to my Colts :suicide: :lmao: :worship:
My only point is that I find it funny that the stang guys think it's a victory to beat a 12 year old car. I think it's also awesome that GM built a car 12 years ago that's still running with cars coming out today. Name another car maker that can make that claim? Not a lot out there. I'm not talking specialty cars....I'm talking showroom floor base model cars.
And why the hell havent you traveled over to a mustang forum.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
maybe you're wounds are finally starting to heal?? Fortunately you'll have until we meet again next Feb. before we re-open them again. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
Take a look at the kill section here. There are lots of ls1 guys beating foxbodys you dont find that funny?Quote:
Originally Posted by 0rion
^you mean foxbodys beating ls1s? Otherwise thats not the same thing. However if thats what your saying im still confused. Stock for stock a fox body against a ls1 is just a waste of gas.
The best you have ran is a 12.8@114? With all the smack talking I figured you were down in 9 second range.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
And you're the one sitting up there saying "Not trying to start an argument......Please don't get defensive over something so small and stupid", look at you?Quote:
Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
All I stated was how much the 99-01 Cobra costed compared to the SS of it's time. You seem to be the only one in this thread to have an issue with that?
Sheesh guys come on play nice.
Orion says its funny stang guys think its a victory to beat 12 yr old cars.I said plenty of ls1 guys think its a victory to beat foxbodys which were 10 yrs old at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
Yes it is a waste of gas I agree 100%.
Actually I do. How many of those foxbody's are stock that people are talking about beating? I would never brag about beating a stock fox body. Hell, I don't brag about beating anyone really. I did race a fox body several years ago here in town. Good close race and the only ground I gained on him was when he would shift until we got up to 3rd gear then I started pulling him. He had a nice lumpy cam and was running skinnies. Nice looking/running car. My mods at the time......stall convertor and headers.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
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Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll
you check out the sct tuner yet?They are claiming 32 rwhp and 31 rwtq.
http://www.sctflash.com/
http://forums.musclemustangfastfords...ime/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Transamws6
There you go, perfect. What did i say that was bad enough before that to get your man thong twisted?
I talked about racing a guy i know who has a 03/04 and over reved right in front of me driving and almost blew his shit up. Where was that directed at the OP or the situation your currently discussing im confused....
The new 5.0 is better than the LS1 in almost every way. Not trying to start a flame war so mods do not hold me responsible if others start turning up the heat.
The fact of the matter is that the new stang is faster,more powerfull, and better refined than the LS1. Other than a nasty motor and sleek looks, I dont really see anything that a WS6/SS has over the 5.0? The t-tops leak, the rear end can be blown apart with STOCK power, headlights dont come up sometimes (TA models), window motors going out. Now as far as engine goes, the LS1 engine can see anywhere from a good 40-50 HP increase with full bolt ons and a tune. I dont even think there are many parts out for the 5.0 yet so I cant say anything.
It should be,considering the Ls1 hasn't been in a production car since 2004.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
This whole thread is a joke. "Don't race a stock Ls1 against a 5.0",or WTF ever the title is. How many Ls1's are stock anymore? I'd say few and far between.To all these 5.0 leghumpers on this GM site...when your new 5.0 can run with the current production stock Ls3,Ls7,or the almighty Ls9,maybe one of us old Ls1 owners will give a shit.
:werd: I think the same thing too. Some look okay but the side view of them is horrible and the fishlike features are still present.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
Your so right. Compare a $30,000 naturally aspirated car to that of one with a superchraged 6.2L with a $100,000 price tag. Thats definitely a good comparison...Quote:
Originally Posted by importhater81
I dont think there is another car out there today that cost 30k, makes 400+hp all motor, and is under 5.0L. THATS the whole point of my arguement. We can sit here and talk about how great and superior the new GM cars are over the stang or we can actually talk about cars in the same price range.
Or people can just man up and race what they have/prefer to drive. Once you mod it you can throw MSRP and stock numbers out of the equation. So in the end the are all hunk of metal and plastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
Just threw the Ls9 in there for shits and grins...Nobody seems to consider that when comparing a 03/04 cobra to Ls1 f-body,what was the excuse back then...oh the ford has less ci's so it needs a s/c to level the playing field.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
I could really care less what ford has,if I wanted to know I'd be on a Mustang site. Congrats to ford though it only took them a little over a decade to build a N/A car/engine that will run with a LsX.
I've been looking to race one since they came out,but the new 5.0's are like legends already...never to be seen in person but such great storys about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packy
seen a 2011 shelby in the ford dealerships showroom is the best looking thing in production today besides the Z06 but the shelby had a price tag of 56k over 500HP thats cheaper than a new Z06 might sway that way when the time comes.
Well the cobras are a little bit better of a comparison then some of the others that you mentioned. Point of the matter is that Ford built a car thats faster than the LS1. Doesnt matter if it took them a decade or a day, it still happened. And there is a reason the mustang is still in production today and the T/A and Camaro are not... But thats a differant story.
Old arguments:
Fox body guy: Well my 10 year old POS can keep up with yours.
LS1 guy: My stock car
Fox Body guy: Yeah
LS1 guy: Pfft, pleaseeeeee
LS1 guy: Well at least we don't need a S/C to win.
03/04 Cobra guy: Well you have 65 more CI than me...
Mach 1 guys: We run stock for stock with LS1's
LS1 guys: No you don't because you have a Mustang. Ewwwwwweeeee!
Bottom line they pretty damn even especially with the average drivers out there.
New Arguments:
LS1 guys: The new 5.0 ain't gonna beat my LS1....
The new 5.0 guy: Uh how so I have 412 hp! :flex:
LS1 guys: well I will just get some mods finally. Then we will see punk!:)
The new 5.0 guy: Well we will just see if I can get my traction control off by the time we race. Then we will see!:wwf:
Bottom line guys yes the almighty LS1 can still keep up but not for long (unless you have modded and stay on your game) because when the full bolt-on Coyotes start roaming around the streets they will be able to keep up and go FTMFW!
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...o/5-0vsLS1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...o/5-0vsLS2.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...sLS1cammed.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...-6SCPulley.jpg
Camaro is in production, the reason the Trans Am is not is because they are, the same car for all points and purposes. No need to make 2 under different names.:rock:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
It is sad that it took ford so long, the fact of the matter is however they didnt have to. The Camaro and Trans am were both more expensive then the Mustang which was more in line with the price of all the import cars that came out to compete with the three. In the end the Trans am and Camaro died a over priced death in 2002. The mustang however now in dealerships is way over priced for a decent gt. More then the new Camaro and only time will tell as to if they make it any faster or lighter to leave the mustang in a cloud of dust again. Many MANY many people have said all it would take is a couple of hundred pounds off the Camaro to make it a million times better car which GM is working towards for next years model. Its the first real year the Maros been back out. Its not going to be at the top of its game in the first batch of them. Ls1 intake- ls6 intake on the ls1 cars as a comparison.
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Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
How is it overpriced compared to the camaro?On chevys website the camaro is more expensive............http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...4&snType=model
Not to mention you can have one under 30,000 if you dont want leather and all the other fancy crap.
WoW!!! (Not World of Warcraft!!) I got guys (Flash) (Not OP) talking shit about my car which he can't beat :lmao: Think you can beat my SS, try my 69 Chevelle :lmao: Nobody here has heard about it, because my parents and myself own it 50/50 and I don't consider that my car straight up! The war has started and I'll claim enough wins, no doubt the OP will win his share :yup: Like a wise man once said (Packy/Owns both) Brand loyalty is out the window now a days with the shit going on! People wonder why these threads get :lock: Because people are retarded (no offense to actually retarded people :sorry:) I'm out, I'm done, I'm gone......this shit is going to get deeper and deeper :shitstorm:
Wait, my buddy has this crazy car and it can beat anything....you only run 12's, good luck........my shit runs 4's when I'm on the throttle and the bottle...:lmao: Sorry, won't do it again, people are so dumb it makes me smart :dunno:
Show me once where i talked shit?All the shit talking you do and the fastest you've been is 12.8 is what i asked that is not talking shit in my book!:spank2:Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
I just dont understand your logic? Who do u consider dumb and who is talking shit? We are just having a debate. Even a blind person could have seen the outcome of this thread from a mile away. Anytime the words "LS1" and "Mustang" are used in the same sentance, things dont really turn out very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
Try and go to a lot and get either car for their projected MSRP right now. I think its also been said the interior on the mustangs is nicer then the ones in the Camaro but its not if your having to buy a stripped down version of the stang just to afford it where as you could have bought a loaded SS.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
Call me crazy, but I dont think Ford was really competing with GM in the late 90's and early 2k's. If they really wanted to blow away the competition, they could have created a car like the 03/04 cobra before the LS1 even went into the f-bodys.
Mustang have always been a "pony" car not really a full fledged "muscle" car like the T/A and Camaros. Seems like ford was playing their cards pretty well. They obviously knew what the general public wanted and didnt focus too much on the performance aspect like GM did.
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Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
$28,767
http://www.garyyeomansford.com/new/F...seHistory=true
http://www.garyyeomansford.com/new/F...seHistory=true
$31,951
http://www.garyyeomansford.com/new/F...seHistory=true
People who couldnt afford the Camaro or Trans am bought the Mustangs inless they were just a hardcore ford lover. There was no brand loyalty then either, but you had cars that were just as fast, TT supras, TT rx-7s, TT 300zxs. People buy whats faster, you being on a LS1/ Trans am/ Camaro site shows that as hard as your "Debating" for a 5.0 or Termi. There arent as many choices now as there were back then.
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Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
All those cars listed were alot more than any domestic at that time.People do not buy what is faster.The 4th gen sale numbers tell you this....
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/show...uction+figures
mustang/camaro
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98: 170,642/ 77,198
99: 126,067/ 42,098
00: 218,525/ 45,417
01: 155,162/ 29,009
Not everybody prefers to have a loaded car.Thats why there is options.Quote:
Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
Dude I was cruising in my LS1 the other day and saw a new 5.0 driving. I got near him and revved and he looked at me with a glance like leave me alone and then he turned off. When I am in my cars driving I like to race anything that is performance oriented. I do like to stir some shit too! I just wanted to see how it would run. Like when I bought my Cobra and took around LSX guys and they were all acting like it wasn't shit but none of them would buck up and run it! I wonder why. People felt threatened from it just like all the guys driving stock to relatively stock LS1's do now. It is a simple case of the hunters becoming the hunted now. If you guys can't realize that then you are either blind or just flat out dumb.
Here is a bit of history for you that most on this site probably do not know. LS1 heads are loosely based off of an old Blue Oval design.?. True or False
I would think twice before racing any modded cobra. $1000=450+ rwhp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packy
Most of them had a cam/bolt-ons at a minimum. Heck 2-3 of them had bigger bores such as 402 and higher with typical supporting mods. They all had one thing in common though. No balls!!!:buttkick:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
or just scared of losing to a Ford...
I understand. I have only seen two here in Florida. One at the dealer and one on the road now. I drove the one at the dealer and it moved out pretty decently I have to say. I base my conclusions off of that and some of the valid stories off the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by importhater81
ford board is that way ------------->
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Hi guys sorry I'm late to this one.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...5/upinhere.jpg
Have fun, take care, and good luck with your automotive goals in 2010.
I do the same thing, ill race anything in the TA win or lose. Consistently race a GT-R, SRT8 challenger and Z06 a friend of mine owns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packy
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Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC
The thing that gets me in all of these threads is the constant attitude from some people that act like they have built the car from scratch on their own and that is the reason why it is so great... Please and most of the modded guys (not all) probably didn't even do their own work. Especially when it comes to the tuning. There is no end all be all because the next years model will always have better technology and design.
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Originally Posted by 0rion
All I saw was the link for UMI Performance Chassis & Suspension there.:burnout:
I agree with that as well, i have done all the work on my own car so far and plan to do all of it but the tuning. Im even learning how to port and polish my own heads from a friend of a friend who owns a shop here. By hand none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packy
:lmao: :haha: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-ZHi guys sorry I'm late to this one.
Have fun, take care, and good luck with your automotive goals in 2010.
Would you really buy a new Z for 85K -90K anyway? You can get one that's two years old for mid-40's, and if you're lucky, maybe with some mods too.Quote:
Originally Posted by damianj03
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Originally Posted by blackSS01
Sorry man, I think all he said was that you've run a 12.8, before your H/C. To this day, that's all it's ran so far, even if it's faster now. Did you make that comment just because he "can't beat your Camaro or Chevelle? If so, that has no bearing on someone being entitled to their opinion, or not.
I'd gladly line up against your Camaro or Chevelle, I think it'd be fun. You can even take your pick. :D You heard it here first. :true:
:suicide: Didn't you read any of the other info I gave besides the 12.8. That was a solid 12.3 or even lower run with just full bolt ons if my 60' was down around 1.9 or so. You stated something without a majority of the facts like temp of day, humidity, why I was running full psi and didn't lower it. Could have lied but don't do that crap, who does it help, no one. That run was 4 years ago (HOLY SHIT! I just thought about that, its already been 4 years since I raced at the track :suicide: ) I ran 4 times that day with no ability to hook regardless of my fooling around with launching. The tires were SumoHomo's, ask Mr. Luos how well those tires are, even for a great driver. Last but not least, wasn't talking shit to anyone, stating facts and opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
EDIT: Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink :lmao:
No fair, you have the Beast Z06 :drool: :drool: I'll run ya to lose if you give me a ride in it :hug: ..............or maybe drive :hide:Quote:
Originally Posted by FasstChevys
:lol: Negative on the you driving part :DQuote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
I'd give ya a ride if you were ever over this way, no prob
Biggest dickhead comment of the thread award goes to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajiv1998
You should remember this in the future if your health ever goes to hell "before" it should. Karma's a bitch.
I rarely go to the land of 1000's lakes but once a year or so.... Never brought the Maro up but it would be a sweet little cruise.Quote:
Originally Posted by FasstChevys
Beer isn't as cheap as it is over there, but it is still in abundance :DQuote:
Originally Posted by blackSS01
:cheers:
i look forward to racing a 5.0 with my minor bolt on ls1. win or lose it will be a good time with drunkenss to follow.
I've been to Treasure Island a few times, which is a blast :yup: But enough of :hijacked:Quote:
Originally Posted by FasstChevys
Back on topic: OP, when you going to the track since you were rained out last time.
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Bench racing at its finest!!! Coulda,shouda,woulda!!!!!!:blah::blah:Quote:
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