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09-22-2008, 08:09 PM #41
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09-22-2008, 08:15 PM #42
You obviously don't get it.
5.7 > 2.0.
All other variables held equal (modifications, boost, ect) the larger motor will ALWAYS make more power. Yes, the GM Ecotec motors are impressive, they are very stout. The new Cobalt SS is nice, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy one if my ultimate goal was pure speed. Its just not reasonable.
One thing GM definitely did right with the new LNF motor is the power curve. Instead if having the turbo spool around 3500RPM (like japanese cars), the car makes peak torque at a mere 2,000RPM - so its more more driveable and torquey on the low end.
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09-22-2008, 08:16 PM #43
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09-22-2008, 08:22 PM #44
Lol I don't get it? Please I have more money invested in my T/A and vette alone than your house is worth probably. Before you open your mouth and even talk again look up some facts about the 2.0 and top speed. I will even help you get your head out of your ass tomorrow when I have time.
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09-22-2008, 08:26 PM #45
I hate to break it to you, but a one-off Bonneville salt flats car is not the same as a production vehicle. No street driven Cobalt SS with the 2.0 will ever go that fast.
I already said its a good motor and its very capable for what it is. But you'd be a fool to buy a Cobalt SS for drag racing, there are just better vehicles for that purpose.
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09-22-2008, 08:26 PM #46
Heres some information that should keep you quiet. http://www.ecotecpower.com/gallery/gallery.php?eid=693
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09-22-2008, 08:28 PM #47
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09-22-2008, 08:40 PM #48
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09-22-2008, 08:43 PM #49
Why because I put you in your place and made you look like a complete fool. Ever thread I go into with you in it, you have a complete hard on for a the ls1. It's not the best motor even close, hate to break it to you. So I will quit breaking your balls if you quit being ignorant.
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09-22-2008, 08:43 PM #50
Actually, the LS1 and 2 are very different. The entire block is different, so I can see someone liking the LS2 much more so than the LS1. Its a larger, more stout, more powerful engine, with numerous differences.
More like 5lbs of boost. My car makes 500 at the wheels on only 5lbs and is damn near stock. MUCH better than some overboosted B18 bullshit.
I'm as big a GM fan as anybody (hell, I refuse to even ride in a Ford), but the 2JZ engine is amazing. The Supra was a VERY impressive car for '93. Hell, they pulled a .95 on the skidpad, which, at the time was more than a Corvette I believe. Anyway, I'm just saying, its a VERY capable motor and isn't some shitbox 2.0L VTEC shit, and it is infact a awesome motor. In my book, better than the Modular S/C, Hemi, and very close with the LSx's.Last edited by squee; 09-22-2008 at 08:47 PM.
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09-22-2008, 08:46 PM #51
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09-22-2008, 08:49 PM #52
What is your reasoning?? Personally I think its worthless. Once you start modifying them for power, they become completely undriveable. You're either bogging down or burning the tires off the car. Hence why Supras have the reputation for being dyno queens. 600,700,800+WHP is useless if you can't actually put it to the ground. Making that kind of power, the motor is like an on/off switch, and the chassis can't handle he power to begin with. So you end up with a useless dyno queen.
The Ford 4.6 S/C is a much more capable engine than the 2JZ, it will hold more power, and it can actually put the power to the ground. Why anyone would want a gutless straight 6 over a supercharged V8 is beyond me, I like having low end torque in my vehicle.
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09-22-2008, 08:51 PM #53
HP/Liter is a ricer arguement. It doesn't make the car any faster or better than anything else because it has more "HP/Liter". Its a meaningless calculation invented by riceboys to justify their gutless, underpowered Honda engines, and try to find some meaning in their vehicle's worthless existance.
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09-22-2008, 08:52 PM #54
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09-22-2008, 08:54 PM #55
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09-22-2008, 08:54 PM #56
LOL you are a joke. You didn't put anyone in their place. You brought up the GM Ecotec engine, which I happen to LIKE, and then proceed to explain to me how it can go fast on the Bonneville Salt flats. No fucking kidding, way to try and tell me things I already know. I like all kinds of engines, not just the LSx series. I just don't like pointless riceburner engines that are gutless and sound like crap.
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09-22-2008, 08:54 PM #57
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09-22-2008, 08:55 PM #58
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09-22-2008, 08:56 PM #59
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09-22-2008, 09:00 PM #60
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