Friends 3.8 Camaro

**Getzen_Guy** · 01-30-2008, 12:46 PM

haha, I actually try to help everyone out as much as I can and stuff cuz I'd like to be one someday :sigh:

at least you notice they moved my thread, you're the main person talking in it. yay we stuck it to "the man"

**Forced_Firebird** · 01-30-2008, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Getzen_Guy

ok so today my friend was driving his 98, 3.8l camaro, and i'm in the passenger seat.

he tells me hie's been having some issues so I tel him to show me. well he gets on it, and i'll say it picks up and moves for a v6, it would smoke my 02 W68 bird dd.
anyway at about 75, his rpms are hanging aroung 3300-3500 and all of a sudden his car shoots to about 6500 and hooks like crazy. but it's not a good kind of jump.

It's almost like the car is giving that last little bit that the sixers give around 115-120, but you can keep going and it shifts to the next gear.

we ran it beside my Z28, and it got up to around 140... fucking quick for a six.

idk what all it has done, exhaust from what i can see, never looked under the hood

Originally Posted by Getzen_Guy

i posted this in the camaro section because it's about a camaro.....

I wasn't so much concerned with it being a six, I was asking a question!

and i was moved to the sixxer section....
THERE'S NO TRAFFIC HERE!!! MY QUESTION WILL GO UNANSWERED!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Exactly what question were you asking?

**Getzen_Guy** · 01-30-2008, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Forced_Firebird

Exactly what question were you asking?

oh mybad I guess i let it get too of topic...

he tells me hie's been having some issues so I tel him to show me. well he gets on it
and at about 75, his rpms are hanging aroung 3300-3500 and all of a sudden his car shoots to about 6500 and hooks like crazy. but it's not a good kind of jump.

what's the deal on that?

**NSSTG8TR98** · 01-30-2008, 08:13 PM

LOL, aww Shit Getz you're back on track, now they're going to move your thread again, this time to tech.

**Getzen_Guy** · 01-30-2008, 08:20 PM

**NSSTG8TR98** · 01-30-2008, 08:54 PM

I guess i should try and help answer your question. Is it an auto or 5 speed?

**Getzen_Guy** · 01-30-2008, 09:04 PM

it's an a4... he says it doesn't have a shift kit or anything.

it's has the y87 package, so it has an lsd rear, and i think higher rear end gears?

I'm not sure what all y87 covers..

tonight he had me and my dad drive it to see what the deal was (my dad has worked for GM almost 10 years)
it seems like a trans issue. but it's got a new trans with only a few thousand miles on it....

i notice that if you go from a dead stop and punch it (as if you were racing) it will go to about 6400 rpm, then shift to the next gear... drop to around 2500 then it will go to about 4.5-5k then it gets to the next gear. drops to about 3k then it kicks and takes off hard (like the115 plus last kick) but goes to about 6500

and sputters(because it's overrevving) you have to let off a bit then it shifts fine into the next gear. then it will kick again and get you to around 135...

car has power i never thought a 6 had.

if you drive it normal rpms hand around 1800-2k i mea it drives very nicely... but is the rpm thing something to worry about??

**NSSTG8TR98** · 01-30-2008, 11:17 PM

If i rember right that 98 A4 should have come with 3.42's as part of the Y87 package. It really does sound like a trans issue, even though it's new. You want to be careful with it hanging at such RPM's, worst case the gears stick and don't shift you redline and blow the motor sky high. Did he come clean on what he's had done to it? There's not way he's hit over 120mph stock. Again the gov. kicks in and regulates.

**Getzen_Guy** · 01-31-2008, 06:00 AM

he says it's been reprogrammed, and that's it...

but idk.... I mean my first v6 dyno'd 245 hp, and it didn't like to hit over 130.

and my dd bird now... she'll shut u down at 118 stock.

see I'm thinking it's something with that damn (I guess would be 3rd running gear? I'm not sure how auto trans work) trans...

It's scary to see any f-bod get into that rpm range.... I DON't EVEN LET MEPHISTO do crazy shit like that....

**Ryans99LS1** · 01-31-2008, 10:10 AM

Have him get the car professionally tuned. My T/A did all sorts of weird shit like the converter would just unlock at high rpms and i lost a good amount of power. Had it dyno'd and tuned, and it all went away. That sounds more like an electrical issue to me..

2000pontiac6 · 01-31-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Getzen_Guy

he says it's been reprogrammed, and that's it...

but idk.... I mean my first v6 dyno'd 245 hp, and it didn't like to hit over 130.

and my dd bird now... she'll shut u down at 118 stock.

see I'm thinking it's something with that damn (I guess would be 3rd running gear? I'm not sure how auto trans work) trans...

It's scary to see any f-bod get into that rpm range.... I DON't EVEN LET MEPHISTO do crazy shit like that....

The bird you have now shuts down at 118 because thats what all v6 birds are programmed to shut down at. Only way to get higher is to take out the governer or reprogram. What did you do to your first v6 to get 245 out of it thats a hell of a lot for a 6 without forced induction or anything

**Getzen_Guy** · 01-31-2008, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by 2000pontiac6

The bird you have now shuts down at 118 because thats what all v6 birds are programmed to shut down at. Only way to get higher is to take out the governer or reprogram. What did you do to your first v6 to get 245 out of it thats a hell of a lot for a 6 without forced induction or anything

yeah I'm aware of the 118 governer...

anyway... it had larger cam, headers, tune, etc.

i had about 5k under the hood...

2000pontiac6 · 01-31-2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Getzen_Guy

yeah I'm aware of the 118 governer...

anyway... it had larger cam, headers, tune, etc.

i had about 5k under the hood...

Thats awesome. Sorry to intrude on the thread.

**Getzen_Guy** · 01-31-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by 2000pontiac6

Thats awesome. Sorry to intrude on the thread.

oh it's cool! do know what the issu may be though?

I'll always answer a question.
especially about my old bird.... she loked like yours... bless her soul

**NSSTG8TR98** · 01-31-2008, 09:32 PM

my best guess is that when they reprogrammed, assuming is was running normal before, someone messed around with the shift points. Could be something in the setting. did he do it or a buddy? If its a news trans I was less inclinded to believe that was the issue one you found out for sure it was programmed.

**NSSTG8TR98** · 01-31-2008, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by 2000pontiac6

Thats awesome. Sorry to intrude on the thread.

Love that bird. She looks great. I love that about this site, 3.8, LT1, LS1 it just doesn't matter so long as you take care of what you have. Nice ride.

**Forced_Firebird** · 02-02-2008, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Getzen_Guy

he says it's been reprogrammed, and that's it...

but idk.... I mean my first v6 dyno'd 245 hp, and it didn't like to hit over 130.

and my dd bird now... she'll shut u down at 118 stock.

see I'm thinking it's something with that damn (I guess would be 3rd running gear? I'm not sure how auto trans work) trans...

It's scary to see any f-bod get into that rpm range.... I DON't EVEN LET MEPHISTO do crazy shit like that....

The 3.4 motor I'm building now is going to have a 7200rpm redline, and am expecting ~250whp N/A. Then the boost is going back on

**Getzen_Guy** · 02-04-2008, 10:15 PM

see... they moved it and now look where we are...
haven't had a response in days...

damn damn damn dam damn damn damn!!

**Ryanandybob** · 02-05-2008, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by Getzen_Guy

oh mybad I guess i let it get too of topic...

he tells me hie's been having some issues so I tel him to show me. well he gets on it
and at about 75, his rpms are hanging aroung 3300-3500 and all of a sudden his car shoots to about 6500 and hooks like crazy. but it's not a good kind of jump.

what's the deal on that?

Sounds like Vtak to me! lmao