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Thread: Killed a 04 KB Cobra on spray
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07-27-2007, 02:47 PM #81
what kind of direction is this thread taking? if its the same old f body vs. cobra debate why dont we let it go now. this can go on all day. i could care less about videos and bullshit bragging, the fact is that a select few people have run seconds faster than people with hundreds more horsepower. its all entirely about the suspension and how great of a sixty you cut. since when did it become the "it" thing to have 500 horsepower and just break 11s?
these cars have WAY more in them than people want to believe. roll racing does not really tell you shit because ive beaten a few vettes from a roll that i probably shouldnt of. i just know MY car.
a few years ago, mmff tested a stock ls1 z28 and it went 12.89 @108 in cold air with low d.a.
gmhtp ran a bone stock ss 12.96@107 on a 90 degree day. both of these runs were on the stock tires.
point? who knows. i just know that on the right day and with the right suspension anything can happen. i remember reading somewhere that someone piloted a new z06 to a 10.80 and no one believed it. why the hell not? i bet a cobra could easily get into the 11s with some air and traction.
nothings for certain.
again i really have no idea whats being talked about. this is what happens when you scim and dont read.
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07-27-2007, 03:08 PM #82
The slowest (competent driver) Cobra I have PERSONALLY seen was a stock 04 Yellow vert (pig) at Morosso WPB and he ran 12.77 @111. It was atleast 80 degrees that night. Faster then the red Z28 we all know of from GMHTP. I have that issue in my house somewhere. I used to drive around with it whan I had my SS I was so proud.
Ive seen them trap 113-114 stock, in person. One of the reasons I wanted one. With $800 in it, I was door to door with my H/C SS that I sold to my brother.
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07-27-2007, 03:15 PM #83
who gives a f?
good, then youre thinking what im thinking. i have no idea whats being debated, but i know its the cobra vs. the f body. MY point is that weight, suspension, and good launching (with good trap prep, good 60, blah blah blah) will yield great track times. there is no doubt in my mind that with shaved weight, good suspension, and stickies, you could be low low low 11s or better with 400 horsepower. of course its pretty much taboo to say that since everyone just KNOWS exactly what everyone else is going to run.
just so everyone understands this, i love my f body. i wont sell it. but i would in a heartbeat buy a cobra. i love them too.
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07-27-2007, 06:47 PM #84
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It all sounds like good fun. I generally don't get into street racing but you've had your fun doing it and I appreciate that. I never got banned, I just got tired of arguing with guys like you, then the site went down and I had to re-register and well, I lost my 2000+ posts. Boo hoo.
There's no doubt about it, car building is all about the cash. My point was that '03 Cobra owners often think they're invincible in my experience. You and your buddy would have been quite dismayed if you had run across an LT1 for example and had your assed wiped. But shit happens, you know it, I know it. But nobody likes to get beat, especially the guy who think's he's the fastest and brags about it - like you.
There seems to be a dozen Cobra owners here who can't take it when they see a story about an '03 getting whacked. So they call BS. Not of course when an LS1 gets beat, that's totally believable and just always happens without exception. But the other way around? I don't think there's one thread on this site where a guy like you hasn't come in and called BS and attacked the poster. Worse, if there's a vid proving it? The guy's a troll and should be banned (a couple of dorks tried to pull that shit on me all the time).
But yeah, I believe you and your bud went cross country like idiots and killed vettes and Vipers. But 90% of the Vettes and Viper owners I see can't drive, don't have mods, and don't go all-out because they're scared or they are not that stupid.
And back in the legitimate world of drag racing, everytime I go to the track there is row upon row of SBCs and 351 Windsors that will absolutely trash your beloved Kenne Belle wonder, every day, every time.
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07-27-2007, 10:00 PM #85
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07-28-2007, 05:35 AM #86
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I've had it out with so many guys like you I can't count. You think your car is a techno-wonder, but it's not the only car with a forged crank, pistons and a blower. And I don't go checking which cars have A/C and which don't when I'm at the track, and I don't know who uses what for a daily driver because I don't care. We're talking fast here, and at the track you're nothing special.
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07-28-2007, 10:48 AM #87
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07-28-2007, 10:51 AM #88
settle down children, there isnt even an argument anymore, just bullshitting going on.
the thread was about a bottlefed ls1 beating a cobra. whats the problem here?
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07-28-2007, 12:49 PM #89
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07-28-2007, 05:34 PM #90Cold Air Intake, Muffler Delete, Vinci High Performance Dual Valve Springs, Hardened Pushrods, Yella Terra 1.85 Rockers, Some Hydropdipped Stuff, Strut Tower Brace, Some SS Badges, boost/vacuum gauge, fuel pressure gauge, some checkered stripes, drilled/slotted rotors, ZL1addons Stealth wickerbill, Ruxifey LED side markers
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07-28-2007, 10:12 PM #91
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07-28-2007, 10:37 PM #93
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Bullshit. You're just like the rest of the Cobra owners. You spent a wad of cash on a car that is still getting beat by bolt-on LS1s and it gets you pissed.
But incorrect info should not be tolerated, not with me. I bet my SS would walk a lot of cars here but I was bored stiff with it.
Anyway, I've had it with all this. It's been happening too long and I'm tired of beating down whining, uppity Mustang kids. Goodnight.
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07-29-2007, 10:41 AM #94
Never been beat by an LSX anything with the Cobra, but in actuality that could be anyday. I am ACTUALLY building my friends 00 Z28 with a procharger @ 8lbs and a 100 shot. Then we are gonna run each other, watch who wins that one.
Aint gonna be the Camaro. Congrats on the new car.
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07-30-2007, 05:22 AM #95
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Take that 2.8 Whipple 03 to a major 1/4 mile track in your area, and race the baddest LSX cars there, I KNOW you will get your ass handed eventually, if not that day. The real competition is at the track.
Hell, a stock C6Z might put a walking on you.
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07-30-2007, 07:12 AM #96
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Lol not a stock c6 z06 but one with headers, exhaust a tuen and drag radials will run 10s all day long. I have seen plenty of lsx powered cars in my area that could take you, saw a lingenfelter c6 z06 on the freeway, race him i dont care what lingefelter package he has even if its the cheapest he is still running low to mid 10s.
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07-30-2007, 08:48 AM #97
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I don't know man, hasn't some guy pulled a high 10 with a stock C6Z?
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07-30-2007, 08:54 AM #98
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I saw a vidoe that claimed to be a stock c6 z06 with drag tires and the car ran a 10.9. Im sure it could be possible, like i said i do know that headers exhaust and a tune with slicks and they will run 10s all day.
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07-31-2007, 03:08 PM #99
Dream on, Ive already messed with a Yellow C6 Z06 all stock. The guy wouldnt even keep into it, I was walking away each time he hit it! Im sure he didnt want to lose. Any car that traps 140mph will beat me on my street tune. No big deal. I dont even have $32K into my Cobra ($25K car included) and I will walk the mighty C6 Z06, with a little 4.6 NO LESS!
How about a stroker LS1 vs a 2.6. Not the 2.8H race blower, just the 2.6.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=756515
Read post #25 too.
Why are we fighting? We can all go race imports and stop fighting.
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07-31-2007, 03:28 PM #100
yeah, getting off the path here. time to put the road block up.
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