mobil 1 or royal purple?

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by TASWEET SS

roger that, thats why half of nascar uses it.

If you think NASCAR uses the same oil on the shelf at WalMart....pass the bong man

Trying to say NASCAR uses the same Mobil1 I buy at the store is like saying I get the same experience by watching the Super Bowl on TV rather than being there. Two big differences. NASCAR utilizes a 0-20 weight to qualify that is loaded with ZDDP. In the race they use a 0-30 that is loaded with friction modifiers. You cannot even come close to buying it friend. It is mixed up in the shop. Almost all the teams utilize a entire bottle of Valvoline VSOT in each sump regardless of what host oil they are using.

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 01:40 PM

I forgot to say why 100 PAO basestock doesnt mean anything in the big picture. GRPIII is a highly refined basestock with very uniform molecular structure. So having a PAO these days doesnt really get you any benefits. It is all about the add packs. So a oil can be GRPIII and have great add packs and kick the hell out of a 100% PAO.
And for the record...when AMSOIL came out with it's GRPIII product line...at least they had the ethics to tell everybody.....and it is cheaper than the AMSOIL 100% PAO line of products. Mobil1 just went GRPIII and jacked the price up even more. That is lower than whale shit in my book.

**99blueZ** · 05-02-2007, 02:51 PM

hey Sarge - i'm glad you are back as i've been waiting for some oil input from you. I've used mobil 1 for the past 2 years but now am switching. Which of the amsoil oils should i use??

ASL SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
or
XLF - XL 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
or a different version of amsoil- they have so many choices.

My other option I was considering is penzoil platinum. There is obviously a big price difference between the two companies. Do you think it is worth the extra $$ for the amsoil?

**Mr. Luos** · 05-02-2007, 03:00 PM

Hit me up Sarge....

Still liking the VP oils?? In a car that sees maybe 4,000 miles a year?

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by 99blueZ

hey Sarge - i'm glad you are back as i've been waiting for some oil input from you. I've used mobil 1 for the past 2 years but now am switching. Which of the amsoil oils should i use??

ASL SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
or
XLF - XL 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
or a different version of amsoil- they have so many choices.

My other option I was considering is penzoil platinum. There is obviously a big price difference between the two companies. Do you think it is worth the extra $$ for the amsoil?

Pennzoil 10-30 is what you want. ASL is what you want. Unless your highly modified and running FI or Laughing Gas...Pennzoil is an equal. Go Amsoil if the above comes into play....fuel dilution you need the beefier add pack Amsoil has....

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Hit me up Sarge....

Still liking the VP oils?? In a car that sees maybe 4,000 miles a year?

Hell yes. VP is good stuff at a bargain man.

**SandmanWs7** · 05-02-2007, 05:00 PM

DAMN IT!!! Sarge why did you leave? I just put Royal Purple in my car and now you say Pennzoil

**99blueZ** · 05-02-2007, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by sandman22

DAMN IT!!! Sarge why did you leave? I just put Royal Purple in my car and now you say Pennzoil

Sarge i think you owe him a few quarts lol

**Mr. Luos** · 05-02-2007, 05:49 PM

I did my best to semi-inform while Sarge was gone....
Although no one believed me.

Sarge...
Which oil now??? Looks like VP changed it up a bit. I am on a fresh change now and have 6 more quarts of the 5w-30 for the next change.
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_02_oils.html#synthetic

**Sarge** · 05-03-2007, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

I did my best to semi-inform while Sarge was gone....
Although no one believed me.

Sarge...
Which oil now??? Looks like VP changed it up a bit. I am on a fresh change now and have 6 more quarts of the 5w-30 for the next change.
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_02_oils.html#synthetic

Yeah I saw that....use up what you got and go Pennzoil Platinum 10-30.

**Sarge** · 05-03-2007, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by sandman22

DAMN IT!!! Sarge why did you leave? I just put Royal Purple in my car and now you say Pennzoil

LOL....use it up and change her over......

**SandmanWs7** · 05-03-2007, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Yeah I saw that....use up what you got and go Pennzoil Platinum 10-30.

10w30? That would make my car have a knocking noise for a few seconds upon startup(Mobil 1). Will I have the same problem with this 10w30?

**TASWEET SS** · 05-03-2007, 05:23 AM

hey whats up sandman, aka ABBY here, i cant stop laughing from that little dude hitting his head on that wall, ha, ha, damnit sarge, so whats the deal, amsoil or pensoil platnum, i think im going with amsoil, arent they kind the godfather of synthic oil, whats sarge say?

**SSTODD** · 05-03-2007, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by sandman22

10w30? That would make my car have a knocking noise for a few seconds upon startup(Mobil 1). Will I have the same problem with this 10w30?

I just switched from mobil1 5w30 to pennzoil 10w30 and I think the "slap" sound is reduced IMO.

**TASWEET SS** · 05-03-2007, 09:40 AM

all of the ls1,that i know of make that tapping noise, almost sounds like lifter taping, i dont know why they make that noise, when i first got my car back in 2002, i thought there was something wrong.

**SandmanWs7** · 05-03-2007, 10:25 AM

I agree with the noise. When I used 10w30 it would make it, but with 5w30 it does not.

**Sarge** · 05-03-2007, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by sandman22

10w30? That would make my car have a knocking noise for a few seconds upon startup(Mobil 1). Will I have the same problem with this 10w30?

Your probably hearing Piston slap. No PP has a thicker film characteristics than Mobil1.

**Sarge** · 05-03-2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by TASWEET SS

hey whats up sandman, aka ABBY here, i cant stop laughing from that little dude hitting his head on that wall, ha, ha, damnit sarge, so whats the deal, amsoil or pensoil platnum, i think im going with amsoil, arent they kind the godfather of synthic oil, whats sarge say?

Hey man....yeah Amsoil is a great company. I think their marketing/distribution sucks donkey balls....but damn good oil.....I recommend paying the $20 bucks and getting the preferred customer pricing (same as dealer) about 20%-25% off retail cost. So Amsoil is cheaper than Mobil1 with the preferred customer....but seriously this Pennzoil Platinum is some damn good stuff....Advanced Auto just had a buy one get one free...and will have it again in June on all Pennzoil Platinum....hell at $2.75 per quart it cannot be beat.....but Amsoil is some seriously great fricking oil.....
https://www.amsoil.com/AmsoilLogin/PreferredApp.aspx

**Sarge** · 05-03-2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by TASWEET SS

all of the ls1,that i know of make that tapping noise, almost sounds like lifter taping, i dont know why they make that noise, when i first got my car back in 2002, i thought there was something wrong.

Piston skirts are too damn short...allows the piston to "rock back and forth" and slap the side of the cylinder walls until the oil has had a chance to build up a decent film....some sound worse than others.....