What do you think of the 350z?

**danziger** · 03-21-2007, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by ATCharming

im not gonna argue cuz you have more knowledge bout them than me. but youtube it. just search skyline and instantly plenty of videos of them goin 200mph come up.

I'm not arguing, just trying to give you the straight scoop...
It would probably cost about the same to put a Corvette over 200mph as it would a Skyline. The Nissan has a sturdy engine, which is factory turbocharged and that makes for a great start, but it is also relatively heavy and doesn't have the cleanest aerodynamics.
The Skyline is a great car, but don't get caught up in the hype. They new ones based on the G35 platform are hideous...

**tonyjnjz** · 03-21-2007, 04:17 AM

c6z06 68k 194 mph or so last i knew.........lpe cam package 5k 616 horse 73k bucks and your EASILY and safely over 200mph ....im sure many of u could put a cam in much cheaper as well...and prolly a bigger one...so much potentional still in that engine

**danziger** · 03-21-2007, 07:50 AM

When I said "Corvette", I probably should have put C5. Since this is a LS1 site, I kinda didn't specify...

**tonyjnjz** · 03-21-2007, 07:53 AM

so your comparing a skyline to a vette dollar for dollar? which has better performance??? or top end speed maybe? is that the argument here? stock? not stock?

**tonyjnjz** · 03-21-2007, 07:56 AM

this one will easily put u over 200 as well.....belive motertrend tested a 650hp twin turbo c5 package at 226 mph...or maybe it was car and driver...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW

**secondgearscratch** · 03-21-2007, 08:15 AM

every single part of a skylines valvetrain to the drivetrain costs an arm and a leg, just like the supra. yeah, the cars are rare. whoopty fucking doo. that just means that they dont have big aftermarket support so everything will be at a premium and ridiculous price because there arent too many options. and i have a friend who talked to motoRex which is the now defunct company that was the only company legally able to import skylines. not only are you looking at car price, but shipping fees and IMPORTING fees are astronomical as well. by the time the twin turbo'd, all wheel drive hunk of crap gets here and your getting pulled on by the same cars as usual (f bodies) you would promptly kick yourself in the sack for shelling out worthless cash.
oh yeah, good luck finding a tuner for it that will charge around the 250 -300 it costs to get an fbody tuned at a shop. let me know if anyone else gets a bright idea.......

**Wesman** · 03-21-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by secondgearscratch

every single part of a skylines valvetrain to the drivetrain costs an arm and a leg, just like the supra. yeah, the cars are rare. whoopty fucking doo. that just means that they dont have big aftermarket support so everything will be at a premium and ridiculous price because there arent too many options. and i have a friend who talked to motoRex which is the now defunct company that was the only company legally able to import skylines. not only are you looking at car price, but shipping fees and IMPORTING fees are astronomical as well. by the time the twin turbo'd, all wheel drive hunk of crap gets here and your getting pulled on by the same cars as usual (f bodies) you would promptly kick yourself in the sack for shelling out worthless cash.
oh yeah, good luck finding a tuner for it that will charge around the 250 -300 it costs to get an fbody tuned at a shop. let me know if anyone else gets a bright idea.......

Good explaination and reasoning.

Ricers don't understand that though, they see it in the F&F and immediately NEED to have one, regardless of how pointless it is. They have this neverending desire to import JDM crap, I don't understand, its a waste

**secondgearscratch** · 03-21-2007, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Wesman

Good explaination and reasoning.

Ricers don't understand that though, they see it in the F&F and immediately NEED to have one, regardless of how pointless it is. They have this neverending desire to import JDM crap, I don't understand, its a waste

i agree with you there. the fast and the furious really gave peple a false sense of power and speed, and it seems that alot of people have bought into the misinformation. skylines are so technologically advanced that it takes the fun out of doing it yourself. people dont seem to get that getting a skyline and putting big turbos and NAWS on it doesnt mean youre going to have a rocket. its going to be a heavy, turbo lagging snail and will undoubtedly break something on the drivetrain. i love the old rice catchphrase, "the block will support 800hp" yeah, but the top end will shatter. skylines are only as untouchable as hollywood makes them. in actuality they are just like any other car with 270hp. when you take away all the glamour and rareness that looks pretty weak. same as the stock evos and stis, they'll get ya from the hole shot but you'll run em down in second.
i really dont wanna import a car to get run down in second by a $10,000 f body (like mine)

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 03-21-2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

this one will easily put u over 200 as well.....belive motertrend tested a 650hp twin turbo c5 package at 226 mph...or maybe it was car and driver...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW

I wonder if the seller will trade cars with me. That looks like a bad ass Vette!

**danziger** · 03-22-2007, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

so your comparing a skyline to a vette dollar for dollar? which has better performance??? or top end speed maybe? is that the argument here? stock? not stock?

Stock vs. stock, my money is on the C5 over the Skyline both 1/4 mile and top speed.
Modded it comes down to who has more money to spend...just like always. The Nissan will be initially easier to get power from as it is already F/I. The Corvette has a virtually limitless aftermarket if you have the money to use it...

**danziger** · 03-22-2007, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

this one will easily put u over 200 as well.....belive motertrend tested a 650hp twin turbo c5 package at 226 mph...or maybe it was car and driver...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...spagenameZWDVW

Well that is "estimated" top speed...big difference. It would depend on the gearing and aero. That's still a bad-ass Vette...
My Z28 makes well over 600rwhp, but I'm not sure it would crack 200mph. Above 170mph aerodynamics become far more important than absolute HP.

**danziger** · 03-22-2007, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by secondgearscratch

every single part of a skylines valvetrain to the drivetrain costs an arm and a leg, just like the supra. yeah, the cars are rare. whoopty fucking doo. that just means that they dont have big aftermarket support so everything will be at a premium and ridiculous price because there arent too many options. and i have a friend who talked to motoRex which is the now defunct company that was the only company legally able to import skylines. not only are you looking at car price, but shipping fees and IMPORTING fees are astronomical as well. by the time the twin turbo'd, all wheel drive hunk of crap gets here and your getting pulled on by the same cars as usual (f bodies) you would promptly kick yourself in the sack for shelling out worthless cash.
oh yeah, good luck finding a tuner for it that will charge around the 250 -300 it costs to get an fbody tuned at a shop. let me know if anyone else gets a bright idea.......

You have a valid argument for the Skyline as it was never officially imported here, but don't lump the Supra into that argument. Up until 450ish rwhp (which is what the Supra can max on the stock twins), the Supra is far cheaper to modify that a comparable LSx platform (unless you are running nitrous). My friend had a bad-ass 1997 Supra nad no problems finding tuners in the DC area. The Skyline would obviously be more of a challenge...

**tonyjnjz** · 03-22-2007, 04:50 AM

thats NOT esimated my friend...they did an article on it a few yrs ago...LPE's 650 horse twin turbo package.......WENT 226mph......was on the cover...they actualy sold that car not to long ago....lemme see if i can find the article on lpe's website

**danziger** · 03-22-2007, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by secondgearscratch

i agree with you there. the fast and the furious really gave peple a false sense of power and speed, and it seems that alot of people have bought into the misinformation. skylines are so technologically advanced that it takes the fun out of doing it yourself. people dont seem to get that getting a skyline and putting big turbos and NAWS on it doesnt mean youre going to have a rocket. its going to be a heavy, turbo lagging snail and will undoubtedly break something on the drivetrain. i love the old rice catchphrase, "the block will support 800hp" yeah, but the top end will shatter. skylines are only as untouchable as hollywood makes them. in actuality they are just like any other car with 270hp. when you take away all the glamour and rareness that looks pretty weak. same as the stock evos and stis, they'll get ya from the hole shot but you'll run em down in second.
i really dont wanna import a car to get run down in second by a $10,000 f body (like mine)

Man, you guys really hate the competition! I understand where you are coming from with all the Skyline/Supra/3000VR4 nut-huggers, but most of the folks that actually buy and drive the upper-end Japanese performance cars are pretty cool. It's the fan-boys with the body-kitted/stickered/annoying exhaust/80rwhp crap-boxes that give them a bad rap.
I wouldn't own a Japanese performance car, but I have nothing against them and have plenty of friends with everything from Preludes to G35s. None of them talk like the F&F cast because they know the real deal.
BTW, the Skyline driveline is far from weak. Try to read up on them from some unbiased sources, the R33/34s are actually pretty cool, just not my cup of tea...or beer.

**tonyjnjz** · 03-22-2007, 05:00 AM

http://www.jeffcom.com/lingenfelter.htm only the first one at 240 mph is est...

**danziger** · 03-22-2007, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

thats NOT esimated my friend...they did an article on it a few yrs ago...LPE's 650 horse twin turbo package.......WENT 226mph......was on the cover...they actualy sold that car not to long ago....lemme see if i can find the article on lpe's website

Relax. I believe that a Lingenfelter Vette ran that number...I read the article. I'm just saying THAT PARTICULAR Vette for sale hasn't run the number. Changes in gearing and aero can make a big difference.
I repeat...I am not calling you out...this is just friendly discussion.

**tonyjnjz** · 03-22-2007, 05:03 AM

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-27420096_ITM

..yes john was freakin nuts

**danziger** · 03-22-2007, 05:04 AM

Heh. Maybe my Z28 will top 200...only a couple of those Vettes have aero mods.

**tonyjnjz** · 03-22-2007, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by danziger

Relax. I believe that a Lingenfelter Vette ran that number...I read the article. I'm just saying THAT PARTICULAR Vette for sale hasn't run the number. Changes in gearing and aero can make a big difference.
I repeat...I am not calling you out...this is just friendly discussion.

haha i agree...just remember reading the article so i was trying to find it somwhere to prove it since it SEEMED u didnt belive me....aparently u read it to...sick shit...belive that particular car was just an auto with the 3.15 rear end.....obviously a 6 speed with 3.42s wont do it as 5th tops out in the 190s in the high 6000 rpm's

**tonyjnjz** · 03-22-2007, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by danziger

Heh. Maybe my Z28 will top 200...only a couple of those Vettes have aero mods.

yeah my z could prolly get up near 190..but theres no way in hell i would try it...definitly not safe in an fbody without some serious suspension mods and maybe some aero mods to so u dont fly away