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05-13-2006, 05:37 PM #101
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Originally Posted by Street Lethal
As I expected, your buddy's 930 never did a quarter mile and your claim of his time was as baseless are your original statement. We all got nothing more than the bleating we expected. Heck, I'm willing to bet if I'd said my car does 5's you'd have said his does 4's. Oh, and that your dad can do more push-ups than mine. Truly pathetic.
Oh, one last thing, genius - if AWD is such a negative factor then tell us all why EVERY turbocharged Porsche made since '96 has it. EVERY SINGLE ONE (especially your vaunted 930 predecessors).
The clock's ticking awaiting your learned reply (sound of crickets)...
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05-13-2006, 05:39 PM #102
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Originally Posted by LS666
Don't expect Lethal to come back w/ a response remotely answering your post. He appears to live in a world where LOUD trumps FACT.
I can't help but laugh at him...
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05-14-2006, 03:53 PM #103
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Originally Posted by V8This
I then go up to him and ask him what hes got, hes like nothign really its mostly stock 289hp, ( i could tell he was thinking my car was only like 180hp or something ) i was like oh i see, but the torque helps as well" hes says yeah that too, not getting that i was expecting him to say that.
why why WHY do these people have to give good cars bad names.
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05-14-2006, 04:03 PM #104
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[QUOTE=LS666]Leave it to a Porche snob "the world's greatest exotic sportscar" The 911 and any of it's contrived, bloated, back-engineered bastard children is and are, in my opinion, the biggest design mistake ever undertaken by any major vehicle manufacturer (with the possible exception of the the Yugo and Vega).
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05-14-2006, 08:07 PM #105
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Sorry, but a rear engine is a stupid idea. It was great for the massed produced "volkswagen" but as far as performance? Ask yourself how many other serious car designers/producers have produced this layout? Ferrari? nope, BMW, nope, Mercedes? nope, Lambo, Lancia, Maserati, Jaguar, Aston, nope nope nope nope nope. As far as the originality of the 356 goes, was it a rear engine flat four with a one piece pan? If so, sound pretty "beatle-esque" to me. Put a bathtub on it or whatever, still nothing special.
I suppose winning a few european races gets you some cred, but these were purpose built RACE cars. I believe the racing porches, for the most part, are/were mid engine, like 917s or 968s. And speaking of which, how many years had Porche been involved in Le Mans? How many years did it take Shelby to come in and clean Porche and Ferrari's clock? Hmm, years of development and refinement shot to hell by a Texan, an American pushrod V8, and a little determination. So much for superior german engineering.
Have you ever sat in a 911? if it doesn't remind you of a Beetle or a 914 your in your own little world. There is absolutely nothing spectacular or special about your average roadgoing porche that sets it appart from any other sportscar. Great craftsmanship? Talk to my neighbor about great craftsmanship while he's changing all the valves on his 911 because of a poorly designed cam chain tensioner let the timing chains slip. Porches are NOT supercars and suffer from the same ailments and design flaws as any other vehicle. You are simply paying for a name. There are any number of vehicle's that will do everything a 911 will do and better, for cheaper (seen a Z06 lately?)
The ferrari comment was tongue in cheek. Everyone has their own preferences in exotics and non-exotics for that matter. I was making fun of the quoted artical that stated the 930 was the "worlds greatest sportscar". Pure Porche snob BS!!!
I am objective and, as such, can see right past the Porche-philes rabid brand loyalty. I've been under 914s and 944s. Ive helped a friend work on his 928. I watched my neighbors 911 sit for years because Porche's superior engineering cost so much to repair when it goes bad. I have an import mechanic friend who works on Porches. He's never had a good word to say about them except they're overpriced and he gets a ton of cash to work on em. I'm no porche expert but I've been around some stout machinery and I simply don't see the attraction. Not ignorance, just a firm grasp on reality.
As for the last sentence, I was refering to the fact that my own post had gone off topic a bit. If you didn't detect the change in timbre you have less a grasp of english than I have of high performance machines.Last edited by LS666; 05-15-2006 at 02:21 PM.
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05-14-2006, 10:39 PM #106
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LS666,
I will not bother challenging your wholesale disparagement of Porsches because, for the most part, you have merely shared opinions and isolated anecdotes. Sufficie it to say that my experience with Porsches has been substantially different than yours. I see that you are in Arizona. I *may* be in Tempe this coming Friday or Sat with my poorly engineered Porsche. Are you near Tempe? Do you want to line up for a friendly run?
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05-15-2006, 03:56 AM #107Originally Posted by 996TTx50
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05-15-2006, 08:44 AM #108
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Originally Posted by Capster78
Second, the "your car is more expensive" excuse is weak and unavailing.
Third, I am fully aware that there are dozens of cars on this forum that would rape my poorly engineered Porsche. I know many of these cars personally. It is interesting that you feel the need to remind me of this self-evident fact simply because I offered to line-up with one particular LS1 that disparaged my car and happens to live nearby where I may be later this week.
Fourth, take note that I remained polite and respectful, even in the face of harsh comments about my car. You might consider adopting a similar tone.
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05-15-2006, 10:45 AM #109
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Originally Posted by Capster78
His car DID cost way more than yours but it's also way better in most every measurable way. You might be able to take him in a drag race but that'd be the end of you winning anything.
If you don't want the viewpoints of those who own cars different than yours why not just ban all of us from this site?
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05-15-2006, 01:18 PM #110
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[QUOTE=LS666]Sorry, but a rear engine is a stupid idea. It was great for the massed produced "volkswagen" but as far as performance? Ask yourself how many other serious car designers/producers have produced this layout? Ferrari? nope, BMW, nope, Mercedes? nope, Lambo, Lancia, Maserati, Jaguar, Aston, nope nope nope nope nope. As far as the originality of the 356 goes, was it a rear engine flat four with a one piece pan? If so, sound pretty "beatle-esque" to me. Put a bathtub on it or whatever, still nothing special.
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also Z06 yeah great car very but id also like something unique to go along with it,
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yet youve never been around the other cars besides the ones you have and base your entire preception on the entire line solely on those cars.
thats like me saying that since ford made pintos that the rest of their cars are awful as well.
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05-15-2006, 01:32 PM #111
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I'd love to line em up just to see it go down the strip, not sure what it would prove though. Let me drop a 100K into my bird then then I'll run em any way you want. Must be nice to have money pouring out your butt though, I've always been jealous of you guys.
What I've noticed is that no one really gets what I'm saying about 911s. I don't have a problem with Porches in general, I love 928s and I'd kill to have a 550 spider I just think that 911s and the like are over rated. I think this has turned into a flame war more than a logical discussion. Do you have any idea what a set of huge twins on an LS1 would do? I could launch it to the moon. While the result of all that "engineering" has, no doubt, created an impressive machine, that kind of effort on just about anything, withing reason, would net a greater result. I'm not being contrary just to be an ass, but I do have the right to my opinion. I believe I'm being pretty objective as I don't suffer from blind brand loyalty.
As for the price comparison, It's as valid an arguement as any. Some guy with a thinly desguised race car jumps in here challenging a street car to a race because I've pointed out a few shortcomings of his precious german auto and then when price is brought up pops off with "thats irrelevant" is just plain silly. No sir, it's highly relevant to the discussion at hand and kind of lies at the basis of my original thesis. That 996 is one bad ass looking piece of machinery and I'm sure it's a pure rocket ship. But given the chance to choose something in the same price range, it wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the list. You lose a lot of value (not the right word but the best I could do on short notice) just because "Porche" is written on it. I would, however, love to see a dyno sheet on that thing. Us dumb americans don't understand "kilowatts".
Enjoy your 996, I'm sure it's neat and no doubt the total babe magnet, but all that engineering was required to make a rear engined design perform. The same effort on many other vehicles would net a greater result. My lack of literary ability just isn't properly getting the point across.Last edited by LS666; 05-15-2006 at 02:22 PM.
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05-15-2006, 02:11 PM #112
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95MK, you not getting it. Don't you find it odd that you could take your turbo Supra, drop 20 or 30K into it and beat the holy living crap out of just about every street Porsche ever sent out?
As far as what cars I've owned or driven, thats kinda silly as the vast majority of us have never had the oportunity to drive an exotic, much less own one. I've had a lot of cars, corvettes, camaros, a jaguar, fiats, Datsun Z cars, etc. I've got 17 years on ya. I'm making a general observation that urges discussion. I've never been within eyesight of a McClaren F1 but I'm pretty sure I'd like to have one.
My neighbors 911 was bought probably in the late 80s early ninetys. He's a serviceman and bought it after an overseas deployment. It had more miles than the warranty would cover because Porsche wouldn't fix it. It didn't have a ton of miles on it and it looked pristine. Apparently the cam chain tensioners are hydrolic and are fed pressure from the main oil pump. There was some type of problem with this and I hear that this failure isn't that uncommon. Not exactly my specialty, but I can only operate with what I know. My twin cam Fiats never chucked a timing belt.
As far as the racing porsches, again, your missing the point. These are, for the most part, purpose built machines. Racing is kind of a hard way to evaluate such things as it most often really has no relationship to street vehicles. There are enough different manufacturers that it becomes diluted in the face of huge sponsorship money and high dollar drivers. By saying that the germans have fantastic engineering is sorta making the claim that others do not or are somehow lacking. The inferior C5R's handed the Porsches their own ass. Again street cars and race cars=two entirely different things.
I apologize if I came off like a butt. I didn't mean to.
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05-15-2006, 04:41 PM #113
this thread has been beaten enough.
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