2011 GT 5.0....Finally raced one

[blackSS01]

so have i lol in fact it was 11.88 at 111mph and could be repeated at will with a yank 3600 stall and many autos do it with good tires and da. its not that uncommon here in fl where the da is good in the winter time. however 111 is no where near the 115-118 these things trap which is evidence of a faster car...

I agree with you there. Run what ya brung though. Trappin higher and losing is still losing. I'd take this new 5.0 over the crappy new Camaro

[Z28Thunder]

so have i lol in fact it was 11.88 at 111mph and could be repeated at will with a yank 3600 stall and many autos do it with good tires and da. its not that uncommon here in fl where the da is good in the winter time. however 111 is no where near the 115-118 these things trap which is evidence of a faster car...

Sure looks like a 115 trap here for me.. And I have trapped higher...

[blackSS01]

Sure looks like a 115 trap here for me.. And I have trapped higher...

My fastest trap was 114mph with full bolt ons and little bit of weight reduction (A very little) and because I didn't have a 2 year old slip to prove it, I had people doubting me......oh well

[redbird555]

Sure looks like a 115 trap here for me.. And I have trapped higher...

Very true and nice run but I'm willing to bet you arent a bolt on/stock stalled/ full weight car?

[blackSS01]

Very true and nice run but I'm willing to bet you arent a bolt on/stock stalled/ full weight car?

I believe he is bolt on, aftermarket stall car

[Z28Thunder]

Very true and nice run but I'm willing to bet you arent a bolt on/stock stalled/ full weight car?

I never said I was bolt on/stock converter... I am full weight + ...

[Firebirdjones]

I'll bet a paycheck he is also running a cam

[Z28Thunder]

I'll bet a paycheck he is also running a cam

LS6 intake,cam,headers,4000 converter and 3.73's... At full weight plus... And your point... I never claimed just bolt ons... All I was saying is I see a 115+ trap myself..

[blackSS01]

LS6 intake,cam,headers,4000 converter and 3.73's... At full weight plus... And your point... I never claimed just bolt ons... All I was saying is I see a 115+ trap myself..

Didn't remember you telling me you had a cam
You pulled a good one there

I still did 114 with full bolt on (No cam/heads )

[big hammer]

We'd have to see what those people consider "bolt ons". I have personally never seen it.
Technically once you crack open the engine, (even the transmission is questionable) then the simple term "bolt on" no longer applies. Even sticking gears in the rearend wouldn't be considered a driveway simple bolt on that anyone can do ,,,which is what the term originally implied. But the term "bolt on" has gotten so blown out of proportion that I really don't put much stock in it anymore. So what ever those guys are doing over on tech probably doesn't fall into this catagory in my book.

Things like exhaust, underdrive pulley, all the free mods, air intake, throttle body, a tune, some drag style wheels, removing weight.....
That's about as far as it goes for the average joe that has a few simple hand tools. I'd like to see an F-body in the 11's with just that... I don't think it'll happen. Every one I've seen (including my own) are stuck in the mid 12's on a good day.
No way I'll dip into the 11's unless I want to dive into the motor for at least a cam minimal,,,then in my opinion it's no longer a bolt on car. Shucks I've even got a converter in it and I feel that's borderline as far as simple bolt ons.
It's not enough to hang with a new stang, that's for sure. It just doesn't MPH as high as the new stangs do,,,plain and simple.

it depends what you consider a "bolt on".

stang guys are usually different. they'll change suspensions, un hook power steering and a\c, take out all the seats. change clutches, gears, EVERYTHING but take off a valve cover, and consider it a "bolt on" car.

if you consider it that way, "bolt on" ls1's have ran 10's.

most consider bolt ons as headers, tuner, gears, UD pullies, tires.

[redbird555]

Thread is kind of getting off topic but heres my reply anyway I dont think the argument was really what a bolt on car "is" i think we can all agree its anything that doesnt dive into the internals of the engine. stall is kind of a gray area but anyway those mustangs did not have u/d pulleys or a/c removal or anything you mentioned that isnt a normal bolt on those cars were taken off the lot given an exhaust, tune, CAI and some tires and kicked off an 11 sec pass at 115-118 THERE IS NO LS1 that will do that with those mods unless its in a miata. When you look at dynos its not all that hard to believe stock autos dyno around 345 and m6's around 360 add bolt ons and they are between 390-420 at the wheels in a 36xx lb car its pretty clear lol. If I had to give a good comparison stock for stock i think stock for stock the fbody would have to have an ls6 in it to duplicate those results.

[ChevyLS1]

good kill

[Firebirdjones]

LS6 intake,cam,headers,4000 converter and 3.73's... At full weight plus... And your point... I never claimed just bolt ons... All I was saying is I see a 115+ trap myself..

My point was that it takes a cam in an LS1 to see those results,,,,that is unless you gut the car,,,but then we really aren't talking street car at that point. Not knocking your car at all,,,,it's a great example of what you'll find done to LS1 4th gens running those times.

That's why this discussion turned to the new 5.0's and how they are running similar times and similar MPH, but they aren't getting inside the motor. That's how impressive the new platform is. I'm just giving credit where credit is due. They aren't slouches anymore.

[flash]

it depends what you consider a "bolt on".

stang guys are usually different. they'll change suspensions, un hook power steering and a\c, take out all the seats. change clutches, gears, EVERYTHING but take off a valve cover, and consider it a "bolt on" car.

if you consider it that way, "bolt on" ls1's have ran 10's.

most consider bolt ons as headers, tuner, gears, UD pullies, tires.

[Lunatikgixxer]

i beat one twice at the track this weekend. All it had was DRs and a catback. It was a close race.

[Firebirdjones]

i beat one twice at the track this weekend. All it had was DRs and a catback. It was a close race.

That's saying alot for the mustang considering all the mods you have listed there,,,including a decent sized camshaft I see....

[big hammer]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/drag-r...1-74-bump.html


..: Naturally Aspirated - Bolt-on's - Stock Motor* :..

F-Body
Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Race Weight, Date
RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400, ATI4600, 4.56, 3060, 03/08
Project_SS ----- 10.866 @ 122.14 (1.45), 98 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 2840, 03/07
Magnus --------- 10.987 @ 119.31 (1.42), 97 Firebird A4, YPT4400, 4.10, 2920, 12/04
Promod1955 ----- 11.030 @ 124.18 (1.45), 00 Camaro SS A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3085, 04/09
Skelton -------- 11.088 @ 119.10 (1.44), 01 Formula A3, CN4800, 4.10, 3150, 02/09
1BAD98LS1 ------ 11.089 @ 120.62 (1.47), 98 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.89, 3070, 11/07
Hawkn01 -------- 11.256 @ 118.48 (1.52), 01 Firehawk A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3086, 03/04
SilentbutViolent 11.302 @ 117.84 (1.52), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.73, 3128, 11/04
V6 Bird -------- 11.322 @ 118.67 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3170, 11/02
Matt D --------- 11.421 @ 116.24 (1.47), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3100, 11/07
ATwelveSec02Z28 11.424 @ 119.26 (1.53), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, RAM, 4.56, 3300, 12/06
BAIN ----------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
Lane ----------- 11.458 @ 117.33 (1.53), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4200, 3.42, 3350, 11/02
11SECSS -------- 11.458 @ 116.94 (1.50), 01 Camaro SS A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3200, 04/02
DMcRacer ------- 11.468 @ 116.88 (1.56), 02 Camaro SS A4, PY3800E, 3:42, 3400, 11/03
MDBlackZ28 ----- 11.494 @ 115.85 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 4.10, 3150, 07/05
Black Sunshine - 11.496 @ 116.24 (1.52), 01 Camaro SS A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3225, 10/01
RacingReverend - 11.496 @ 116.92 (1.562), 02 Camaro SS A4, YSS3600, 3.23, 3200, 01/10
NSSANE02 ------- 11.514 @ 119.50 (1.64), 02 Camaro SS M6, TexOZ700,4.11, 3270, 03/09
Birdman -------- 11.519 @ 115.60 (1.55), 98 TransAmWS6 A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3180, 05/02
WILWAXU -------- 11.544 @ 115.36 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4200, 3.73, 3320, 01/04
01-Z ----------- 11.549 @ 117.82 (1.60), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Mcleod, 4.30, 3090, 09/02
Lynda ---------- 11.550 @ 115.36 (1.51), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/03
chrs1313 ------- 11.558 @ 116.24 (1.54), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS3600, 3.23, 3365, 11/07
Raughammer ----- 11.562 @ 115.25 (1.50), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4500, 3.73, 3175, 01/01
2002Z ---------- 11.564 @ 115.75 (1.52), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.73, 3450, 10/02
Colonel -------- 11.565 @ 115.54 (1.51), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.89, 3285, 10/00
RAGEman -------- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
MikeG ---------- 11.568 @ 115.40 (1.523) 01 SS A4, YPT4000, 3.73, 3430, 11/09
Dangerous SS --- 11.576 @ 116.52 (1.55), 02 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 01/04
Shon Herron ---- 11.592 @ 113.00 (1.50), 97 Z28 LS1swap A4, PT4400, 4.10, 3110, 11/08
MikeHoffpauir -- 11.593 @ 116.00 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/01
JonCR96Z ------- 11.607 @ 117.94 (1.54), 01 Trans-Am A4, YPT4000, 3.23, 3480, 02/10
JFM ------------ 11.623 @ 115.44 (1.57), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3350, 01/02
DOUBT IT ------- 11.623 @ 114.94 (1.57), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 3.73, 3365, 11/08
mmiller -------- 11.664 @ 114.55 (1.53), 01 Camaro SS A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3312, 02/02
JS12 ----------- 11.672 @ 119.23 (1.72), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, Spec S4, 3.73, 3435, 11/02
LARRY01Z28 ----- 11.674 @ 118.20 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Star, 3.73, 3265, 10/02
JASON ---------- 11.682 @ 116.37 (1.62), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YSY3500, 3.42, 3340, 01/03
FASTR A4 ------- 11.694 @ 114.57 (1.56), 00 Formula A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3450, 04/03
Magnet --------- 11.699 @ 115.38 (1.59), 02 Camaro SS A4, YSS3600, 3.23, 3400, 02/09
LS1INSIDE ------ 11.700 @ 114.93 (1.55), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3350, 02/06
AliWantsNss ---- 11.702 @ 116.58 (1.56), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, CARTEK, 4.11, 3425, 11/05
Kent1 ---------- 11.704 @ 115.38 (1.51), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4200, 4.10, 3400, 03/07
1999TransamWs6 - 11.715 @ 115.93 (1.73), 99 Trans am A3, PTC4000, 3.23, 3600, 11/05
XtremeLS1Z28 --- 11.719 @ 115.07 (1.64), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI3500, 3.73, 3260, 03/06
2Quick4U ------- 11.721 @ 115.19 (1.58), 00 Trans-Am A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3500, 10/01
MADCOW --------- 11.730 @ 115.80 (1.57), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3300, 03/04
black02-z28 ---- 11.731 @ 113.81 (1.50), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS4200, 3.73, 3600, 12/04
Durien --------- 11.747 @ 117.59 (1.60), 99 Camaro SS M6, Cartek, 4.11, 3487, 02/04


*Bolt on's ONLY. Stock internals motor, intake to oil pan, stock long block (as it came from GM). LS6/LSx style intake swaps allowed.

[big hammer]

you guys have too remember, the mustang isn't an all new car. it's an old car with a new engine and trans. there are piles of proven parts that have been out there for years that will get that chassis to cut a great 60'. so getting these things to run good times with the new big bump in hp isn't rocket science.

[Lunatikgixxer]

That's saying alot for the mustang considering all the mods you have listed there,,,including a decent sized camshaft I see....

yep! thats why i posted my sig lol. I think he could of beat me if he launched it harder. BTW my tranny mount was broke on all those runs, so i was shifting like a grandma and coming out of the hole slower than id like. My 4th run completed the breakage lol and i was done for the night. My car only dynoed 384rwhp also...

[blackSS01]

yep! thats why i posted my sig lol. I think he could of beat me if he launched it harder. BTW my tranny mount was broke on all those runs, so i was shifting like a grandma and coming out of the hole slower than id like. My 4th run completed the breakage lol and i was done for the night. My car only dynoed 384rwhp also...

Sorry but if you're car only dyno'ed 384 with that cam and a 175 pills then the motor is done. I'm assuming you were not spraying which means with a tranny mount, you would have put a good distance on him.