'01 Cobra

**Cayenne97** · 03-09-2009, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by adam3566

Don't quite get how you really figure that out when they both had 320hp 99 and 01 and weigh about 250-300hp less. Wouldn't be badly at all. Realistically the cobra should easily beat a stock ls1. I know the 99's were overated on their hp but still are lighter by a great deal.

I'm assuming your probably aware by now the LS1 F bodies were underrated. The '99-01 Cobra's are solid 13.8-103mph cars on average, nowhere near a match for an LS1 M6 with equal drivers.

And for the record the Cobra was not 250-300 lbs less if that's what your implying. That's way off.

**Cayenne97** · 03-09-2009, 09:38 PM

Here's a realistic comparison of how these two cars match up.

http://stangbangers.com/01_CobraVsCamaroSS_Article.htm

**adam3566** · 03-09-2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

I'm assuming your probably aware by now the LS1 F bodies were underrated. The '99-01 Cobra's are solid 13.8-103mph cars on average, nowhere near a match for an LS1 M6 with equal drivers.

And for the record the Cobra was not 250-300 lbs less if that's what your implying. That's way off.

You obviously don't read ever post, just jump to conclusions. I said ls1 auto's STOCK. Helps if you read before stating your .02.

Cobra's are 3200-3300. Most T/A's or camaro's are around 3500. I also said put a set of gears on those cobras and there neck and neck with a stock ls1 m6.

**adam3566** · 03-09-2009, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

Here's a realistic comparison of how these two cars match up.

http://stangbangers.com/01_CobraVsCamaroSS_Article.htm

You seriously aren't bench racing off a magazine.... Wow now I have seen it all.

**Cayenne97** · 03-09-2009, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by adam3566

You seriously aren't bench racing off a magazine.... Wow now I have seen it all.

Oh please don't even go there with the bench racing thing. You think us internet guys are the only ones that know how to drive a car? I have seen enuff stock 99/01 Cobra's run to know what they are capable of. My father has an Electron Green '99...it was a consistant 13.8-13.9 second car when stock. Not equal to a LS1 M6.

**adam3566** · 03-09-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

Oh please don't even go there with the bench racing thing. You think us internet guys are the only ones that know how to drive a car? I have seen enuff stock 99/01 Cobra's run to know what they are capable of. My father has an Electron Green '99...it was a consistant 13.8-13.9 second car when stock. Not equal to a LS1 M6.

Good god you cannot fucking read. I said AUTOMATIC ls1. Articles like that prove shit to me. They are either biased or race the car unlike most actually would. I could care less what your father has. Maybe he can drive or not... Don't know don't care. I also said if you cannot understand english put a set of gears in a mach 1 and there neck and neck with an m6.

**Cayenne97** · 03-09-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by adam3566

You obviously don't read ever post, just jump to conclusions. I said ls1 auto's STOCK. Helps if you read before stating your .02.

Cobra's are 3200-3300. Most T/A's or camaro's are around 3500. I also said put a set of gears on those cobras and there neck and neck with a stock ls1 m6.

Where did you get 3200lbs from??? '99/01 Cobra's are in the 3450-3500 range.

Your digging yourself deeper......

**adam3566** · 03-09-2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

Where did you get 3200lbs from??? '99/01 Cobra's are in the 3450-3500 range.

Your digging yourself deeper......

Did myself deeper? Looked up earlier on mustangspecs or something like that and it stated 3200 or 3300 pounds pretty sure. Don't really care to be ohnest just was making a point.

**adam3566** · 03-09-2009, 10:12 PM

QUOTE=Cayenne97;1849109]Where did you get 3200lbs from??? '99/01 Cobra's are in the 3450-3500 range.

Your digging yourself deeper......[/QUOTE]

I did relook on a few sites and you are correct somewhat. I have seen 3300-3400. Heavier than what I thought. Must have been looking at the gt's then.

**Cayenne97** · 03-09-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by adam3566

Did myself deeper? Looked up earlier on mustangspecs or something like that and it stated 3200 or 3300 pounds pretty sure. Don't really care to be ohnest just was making a point.

You were probably looking up the wrong Mustang. Fox-body maybe?

**adam3566** · 03-09-2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

You were probably looking up the wrong Mustang. Fox-body maybe?

No I know foxes just must have been looking at gt's weight. Could have put anything on it though I saw 3200 when I looked before.

**BLKCLOUD** · 03-10-2009, 04:45 AM

99/01 Cobra curb weight is right around 3430 lbs. Vert's are ~150 lbs heavier.

With equal mods and drivers, the average LS1 is probably 4-5 tenths and 3-4 mph faster than the average 99/01 Cobra.

The Mach 03/04 Mach I is a better race.

**mogs01gt** · 03-10-2009, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD

99/01 Cobra curb weight is right around 3430 lbs. Vert's are ~150 lbs heavier.
With equal mods and drivers, the average LS1 is probably 4-5 tenths and 3-4 mph faster than the average 99/01 Cobra.
The Mach 03/04 Mach I is a better race.

N/a Cobras need gears to compete. Well that can be said about all mustangs!

**karpetcm** · 03-10-2009, 08:09 AM

Looking at the dyno numbers in that article i wasnt too impressed but then again when i looked at the MPH in the quarter they came up with at 107 thats very good for a stock LS1. I just hope with my mods i can manage 109mph, i remember reading another article i think it was C&D were the 01 Mustangs being back again after there past problems with recalls were pulling higher then 240rwhp it was about 260. I guess different dyno on a different day, would also explain the low numbers in the article at top. Just found this article and going to edit my post, its not the article i was talking about and sorry dont want to get article crazy here but here is a different one i found. To save time and get to the point scroll down to the last paragraph, i posted the whole thing just in case.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...obra_road_test

**BLKCLOUD** · 03-10-2009, 08:54 AM

270-275 RWHP (SAE) is about right for a stock 01 Cobra, or a "fixed" 99 Cobra. They were essentially the same engine. However, the 99's were VERY inconsistent in power (a few made as much as 270 RWHP, some made as little as 240), so Ford recalled all 99s. They were given a new catback, a slightly revised intake, and some computer tuning changes. Once the recall was done (commonly called "the fix"), 99s made about the same power as 01s.

**big hammer** · 03-11-2009, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by adam3566

Don't quite get how you really figure that out when they both had 320hp 99 and 01 and weigh about 250-300hp less. Wouldn't be badly at all. Realistically the cobra should easily beat a stock ls1. I know the 99's were overated on their hp but still are lighter by a great deal.

i have my buddies 96 cobra sitting in the driveway, and my 02 ws6 in the garage. i know for a fact these cars aren't in the same league. especially once you hit 3rd gear--- race over.

Originally Posted by adam3566

You obviously don't read ever post, just jump to conclusions. I said ls1 auto's STOCK. Helps if you read before stating your .02.

Cobra's are 3200-3300. Most T/A's or camaro's are around 3500. I also said put a set of gears on those cobras and there neck and neck with a stock ls1 m6.

ls1 autos aren't much different then the m6's.

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

N/a Cobras need gears to compete. Well that can be said about all mustangs!

have 4:10's in a box waiting to be installed into the cobra--- maybe this weekend. let ya know what difference it makes

**hutch1999** · 03-11-2009, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD

270-275 RWHP (SAE) is about right for a stock 01 Cobra, or a "fixed" 99 Cobra. They were essentially the same engine. However, the 99's were VERY inconsistent in power (a few made as much as 270 RWHP, some made as little as 240), so Ford recalled all 99s. They were given a new catback, a slightly revised intake, and some computer tuning changes. Once the recall was done (commonly called "the fix"), 99s made about the same power as 01s.

good info, i didnt know they recalled all 99s.

**99 Kobra** · 03-11-2009, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by adam3566

Did myself deeper? Looked up earlier on mustangspecs or something like that and it stated 3200 or 3300 pounds pretty sure. Don't really care to be ohnest just was making a point.

The '99/'01 Cobras weigh 3,450. The '96-'98 Cobras weigh 3,350. The Terminator weighs 3,660.

**BLKCLOUD** · 03-11-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by big hammer

i have my buddies 96 cobra sitting in the driveway, and my 02 ws6 in the garage. i know for a fact these cars aren't in the same league. especially once you hit 3rd gear--- race over.

96-98 Cobras typically make ~20 RWHP less than 99/01 (255-ish or so is typical). The 100 lb difference in weight makes up for some of that difference. A well-driven 96-98 Cobra is capable of mid 13's at ~104 mph with a really good driver at a good track. Average is in the neighborhood of 14 flat.

**clg82** · 03-11-2009, 01:14 PM

Or an A4 LS1 for that matter.....what does the fact this it is an M6 or A4 matter, they are still the same engine and horsepower rating, I have not lost to a mustang yet except for the termi..........and that was when I was BONE STOCK AUTOMATIC.....adam3566 is making no sense!